Which IPL team should I support?

[Amin_]

I'm Shirazi with a Khoozestani background and based on what I've seen is that most Shirazi's and Khoozestani's are Esteghlali (especially the Khoozestani's).

[Mir Javad]

I'm Shirazi with a Khoozestani background and based on what I've seen is that most Shirazi's and Khoozestani's are Esteghlali (especially the Khoozestani's).

What makes Shirazis support Esteghal over Perspolis? I think Foolad would be better for us Shirazis to support instead of supporting some capital team from the North.

[jahandoost]

Yashasin Tiraxtur!

I bet you didn't even watch the video, because the first 10 seconds should make it clear that it is not supporting a footballing team but a separatist ideology.

I have huge respect and admiration for Teraktoro Sazi, they are a brilliant passionate team, a team which gave TM the best MF (Karim Bagheri). But don't let couple 1000s separatists skew your vision of this great team and culture.

[Amin_]

What makes Shirazis support Esteghal over Perspolis?

Shirazi's have a good taste, that's why!

[Shah Abbas]

most shirazi folk are perspolis fans bro

Nope. Atleast not from what I've seen. The new generation in the South are mostly Esteghlali.

[Bagg10]

what's this fucking separatist video with your fake flag?

Dear Mods, please don't allow such things here.

I bet you didn't even watch the video, because the first 10 seconds should make it clear that it is not supporting a footballing team but a separatist ideology.

I have huge respect and admiration for Teraktoro Sazi, they are a brilliant passionate team, a team which gave TM the best MF (Karim Bagheri). But don't let couple 1000s separatists skew your vision of this great team and culture.

First off, I pay more attention to the song itself rather than the photo-montage. Second off, just because there's a photo of a map with the Azeri flag (which isn't fake btw) extended over to what is even in Iran considered "Iranian-Azarbaijan", doesn't necessarily mean that it's in support of a separatist movement. There's a difference between Azari/Azeri pride and separatist propaganda.

Even if I was in support of such a movement, or that particular image was representative of such a movement, it should be negated by the actual lyrics of the song (which I'm assuming neither of you understand). Also, what's with the hasty jump to have things censored/deleted by a mod? Don't most of us criticize certain governments for not allowing free speech/expression (along with countless other things)? That being said, my intention wasn't to promote any kind of separatist rhetoric, or anything even remotely political.

[jahandoost]

First off, I pay more attention to the song itself rather than the photo-montage. Second off, just because there's a photo of a map with the Azeri flag (which isn't fake btw) extended over to what is even in Iran considered "Iranian-Azarbaijan", doesn't necessarily mean that it's in support of a separatist movement. There's a difference between Azari/Azeri pride and separatist propaganda.

Even if I was in support of such a movement, or that particular image was representative of such a movement, it should be negated by the actual lyrics of the song (which I'm assuming neither of you understand). Also, what's with the hasty jump to have thing censored/deleted by a mod? Don't most of us criticize certain governments for not allowing free speech/expression (along with countless other things)? That being said, my intention wasn't to promote any kind of separatist rhetoric, or anything even remotely political.

Aziz I understand that you didn't have any intention but how can using the flag of Azerbaijan not be regarded as a separatist gesture?

[Bagg10]

Aziz I understand that you didn't have any intention but how can using the flag of Azerbaijan not be regarded as a separatist gesture?

I'm probably wrong, and if I am, excuse my ignorance. But I've always seen it as a way to symbolize their Azari pride, an effect that you don't quite get from painting the region with the Iranian flag. Either way, the actual lyrics of the four minute song have nothing to do with separatist ideology.

[AranTZ]

I heard the club is built on Turkic and Azeri nationalism. And I am not Azeri! Not a club for me to support.

First of all, it's not turkic it's Azari. Second of all, I think we can agree on most fans are supporting their local team or regional team? That doesn't have anything to do with nationalisme. Tractor is the only competitive team in the Azarbaijan regions who can battle for the championship and thats why most Azari's support the team. Don't always make it about nationalisme and seperatisme. If you don't have a local team to support, then go to ghermez ya abi like everybody else.

[Zamboor]

Aziz I understand that you didn't have any intention but how can using the flag of Azerbaijan not be regarded as a separatist gesture?

[Camran khan]

[Ghermez Agha]

May as well support Foolad, since I seem to have that southern Iranian feel. I also like the unique red and orangish yellow colours of the club and they have been starting to play some great football, correct me if I am wrong..

In future if any Shirazi or Fars team makes it to the IPL, I will be definitely supporting them.

I think you may want to reconsider your decision

[KC McElroy]

Can you tell us what the state flags of Tehran, Isfahan or Khuzestan look like? Because the last time I checked the flag in the video (not to mention the area it covered on the map) was for a country other than Iran.

To even try to mastmali the separatism in that video is absurd.

[Bagg10]

Can you tell us what the state flags of Tehran, Isfahan or Khuzestan look like? Because the last time I checked the flag in the video (not to mention the area it covered on the map) was for a country other than Iran.

To even try to mastmali the separatism in that video is absurd.

It's a single image which you and others have decided to pinpoint and highlight in a music video which otherwise has nothing to do with promoting separatist ideology.

And you can't possibly compare the city of Tehran, Esfahan, or Khuzestan, 1. to Ostane Azarbaijan (the region of Azarbaijain) 2. to a region filled with people who are ethnically and culturally just as if not more similar to the people in the country of Azerbaijan.

A more accurate comparison is probably southerners driving around with the Confederate flag as a symbol of their southern pride, even though the flag also represents southern advocacy to secede from the US and some racist sentiment. Although some or even most of the people representing the confederate flag hold those sentiments, some are just using it as a symbol for their southern pride, and not all the baggage that comes with it.

[Mir Javad]

I think you may want to reconsider your decision

Just one bad game isn't enough for me to change. I have watched past games and Foolad have player better than this.