What has CQ done for us?

[Bessos]

These random pictures

[ehsan singapore]

we have goten prestige in our football

[Ghomarbaaz]

Ashkan24, forget about what he has or has not done for us.
who do you think will do a better job?
It's easy to criticize without a solution...... who is your recommended replacement that will do a better job?
Do you highly recommend Mayeli-goh-an for example?

[IranTM]

More or less, every coach we've had has gotten us similar results, at least on paper. I can't recall one coach being a lot better than the rest. Of course European coaches have gotten us better results but they've been relatively the same.

[Keano]

Discipline, stamina and defense, as well as a regression in our attacking football

Name 3 IPL teams who have truly displayed that "attacking" football in its entirety and consistent basis in the past 8 years. TM is always comprised of what our league has to offer and its potentials. If you're going to bring up the legionnaires discussion to the topic, then let's not even go there, they all deteriorated by moving to the Persian gulf states leagues, where they barely score goals and often come on a subs, not even starters.

You folks need to be logical and fair. That "attacking" department has been missing in our football ever since the likes of Daei, Hashemian and our amazing attacking midfielders weakened and finally retired.

Some of you folks are too biased TBH.


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[Kiarash]

[xerexes]

I almost wasted time responding to this thread until I remembered the genius who started it is the very sane guy who a few days back likened CQ supporters to members of ISIS! Given the list of bastards who have spoken out in favor of CQ, now I know our entire national team consists of people who behead children and even a seemingly "nice" guy like Mansourian is a psychopathic killer and a possible rapist. This also explains why Taremi was making throat slashing gestures when he scored against Al-Nasr! He was signaling his readiness to CQ.

[Abtin]

That moment when the KING kneels, and the entire staff surounds him to hug him, ESHGH!!!!!

[persepolisfan]

Name 3 IPL teams who have truly displayed that "attacking" football in its entirety and consistent basis in the past 8 years. TM is always comprised of what our league has to offer and its potentials. If you're going to bring up the legionnaires discussion to the topic, then let's not even go there, they all deteriorated by moving to the Persian gulf states leagues, where they barely score goals and often come on a subs, not even starters.

You folks need to be logical and fair. That "attacking" department has been missing in our football ever since the likes of Daei, Hashemian and our amazing attacking midfielders weakened and finally retired.

Some of you folks are too biased TBH.


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im on my phone so i can't give you a substantial reply. But I can surely say there is an abundance of talent in the league that don't have the chance of proving themselves on the senior (national) level, as a result of a reliance on defensive minded players.
One more thing, I'm not biased, in fact I have defended CQ on many occasions in respect to what he has done for TM, past and present.

[Keano]

im on my phone so i can't give you a substantial reply. But I can surely say there is an abundance of talent in the league that don't have the chance of proving themselves on the senior (national) level, as a result of a reliance on defensive minded players.

Sure PF jaan, so whenever you get a chance reply more relevantly to my question. Because none of what you just said was in accordance of my questions. Having an abundance of talent in a league is one thing, yet lacking a single team which plays a consistent attacking football is another.



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[ashkan24]

If you're going to bring up the legionnaires discussion to the topic, then let's not even go there, they all deteriorated by moving to the Persian gulf states leagues, where they barely score goals and often come on a subs, not even starters.

You folks need to be logical and fair. That "attacking" department has been missing in our football ever since the likes of Daei, Hashemian and our amazing attacking midfielders weakened and finally retired.

Some of you folks are too biased TBH.


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Keano jan. Why is it the 2014 WC is the only WC where we couldn't export a single player to Europe afterwards unlike the '06 or '98 WCs? Is it because of the "western discriminating" blinding folks to see the heroics of our boys against Argentina or perhaps scouts, coaches, and analysts have actually managed to compile a damning comprehensible analysis of Iran's 3 performances? You know silly stuff like possession, number of completed passes, accuracy of passes, etc. all of which we were unfortunately dead last at. 32/32.

That might have something to do with deteriorating state of our legionnaires. But then again, it's not like CQ forced our boys to play like that though right? Afterall who cares about possession or pass accuracy if you can "bekesh ziresh" ONCE against Korea in Ulsan and you have a clinical striker like Gucci who'd outrun the Korean defender, dispossess him, and bury the ball deep in their goal?

[Keano]

What has CQ done for us?

Keano jan. Why is it the 2014 WC is the only WC where we couldn't export a single player to Europe afterwards unlike the '06 or '98 WCs? Is it because of the "western discriminating" blinding folks to see the heroics of our boys against Argentina or perhaps scouts, coaches, and analysts have actually managed to compile a damning comprehensible analysis of Iran's 3 performances? You know silly stuff like possession, number of completed passes, accuracy of passes, etc. all of which we were unfortunately dead last at. 32/32.

That might have something to do with deteriorating state of our legionnaires. But then again, it's not like CQ forced our boys to play like that though right? Afterall who cares about possession or pass accuracy if you can "bekesh ziresh" ONCE against Korea in Ulsan and you have a clinical striker like Gucci who'd outrun the Korean defender, dispossess him, and bury the ball deep in their goal?

Ashkan jaan,

Thank you for the well mannered reply. But going by your employed logic, the Greek of 2004 who won the Euro 2004 cup should have not exported a single player to great European clubs, as they played totally unattractive football, holding little possession, scoring littlest numbers of goals, displaying all defensive football throughout the tournament, and finally winning it all. Did some luck factor also play a role into their fate? Hell yes it did. For us with a bit a luck we could have also beaten Argentina and made it through the group stage.

Talking of the World Cup performance, I definitely believe Pooladi displayed amazing and could have been one of the better defenders of World Cup group stage, and we all unanimously thought and believed after the WC he would certainly be signed by some great European clubs, same with Haghighi, Ashkan and even Ghoochannejad who all had a decent World Cup.

The minute we realize and confess where our football stands on the world football map, then we would come to our senses and act more fairly and wisely.

Dar zemn ma mokhlese har ki ke mokhtalefe ma fekr mikone ham shadidan hastim!


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[persiangodfather]

ive said this 100 times
what has dejagah and gucci and haghigh done for us?

not going to mention even pourlaiganji sadeghi pooladi hajsafi

keep in mind no CQ no dejagah/gucci

[Camran khan]

I swear, we might not have won in the end, but our third goal vs Iraq was one of the best goals and most emotional ones I can remember TM scoring since I started following Iranian football.. (Past 6 years).

ive said this 100 times
what has dejagah and gucci and haghigh done for us?

not going to mention even pourlaiganji sadeghi pooladi hajsafi

keep in mind no CQ no dejagah/gucci

Hajsafi played for TM even before CQ came but ok.

[dariushk]

Right now we have a VERY AVERAGE team in terms of player quality and experience.

He has taken an average team to 1st in Asia and defeating teams like Chile, and qualified to the World Cup.

Legionnaires now are at NEC , Rostov, Osasuna (Spanish 2nd Division), Penafiel

Legionnaires prior to WC 2010 were at Bayern Munich, Hamburg, Osasuna (La Liga/UEFA Cup), Hannover, Messina.

You simply cannot compare Iran teams across the last 10 years or so.

RELATIVE to the players they have had at their disposal, the achievements of Queiroz in RELATIVE terms outweigh any other coach.