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    #46
    Originally posted by AminGP View Post
    How do you guys expect CQ to make huge impact on our football when IFF is not willing to change and help? CQ is the only one who's standing up to IFF and fighting for our football. If he doesn't we continue to have this terrible camp, continue to have terrible friendly etc...

    and then people like yourself come and say "Oh but at the time of ghalenoi, mayeli, daie things were also like this in our football". Exactly things were done exactly the same way for more than 20 years and no one is willing to make any changes. CQ wants the best for our football. He wants the best training camps, fields, kits, hotels, airlines for our players and our team. We are Iran for godsake and our players deserve that.
    It's like you hire a good mechanic and give him $hitty tools and expect him to do wonders.

    Yes, 20 years ago a good mechanic with $hitty tools might have been able to fix a Paykan, but things have changed and we are no longer driving Paykans.

    Also, what's the point of hiring a $hitty mechanic (GN, MK, etc..) and giving him expensive tools? He will just F up those tools.

    This is Iran. They want the easiest and cheapest solutions for everything. Our biggest stadium, Azadi, doesn't even have proper drinking water. They cannot even figure out how provide the most basic facilities for our biggest stadium yet we expect them to fix our football?

    That is why you bring in someone like CQ, to show them how it needs to be done. If these idiots cared about our football they would listen and learn because they obviously don't know how to run anything.
    راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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      #47
      Originally posted by clipsport View Post
      Actually I'm the one that keeps begging to fix the infrastructure instead of piss away 4 million a year on CQ. And not just the TM camp. Fields all over the country. CQ knew what he was getting into after the WC. Trust me he's not naive enough to think that IFF will suddenly change over night. But the money is good.

      btw this is the same guy who said, Qatar and UAE are favorites to come out of the group in AC. LOL

      CQ's mental approach to TM
      1) complain about conditions
      2) bring down expectations before matches and tournaments (Media will help)
      3) Make opponents seem stronger than they really are (Media will help)
      - Good result = CQ is a genius
      - Bad result = IFF is corrupt. No preparation. no clothing etc. etc.

      Look there is a pattern here.
      Right now we are at phase 1.
      Wait, let me get this straight, you think conditions are beyond complaining about?!

      Have you ever worked in Iran? When is the last time you saw TM's training ground?
      راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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        #48
        Originally posted by clipsport View Post
        Actually I'm the one that keeps begging to fix the infrastructure instead of piss away 4 million a year on CQ. And not just the TM camp. Fields all over the country. CQ knew what he was getting into after the WC. Trust me he's not naive enough to think that IFF will suddenly change over night. But the money is good.

        btw this is the same guy who said, Qatar and UAE are favorites to come out of the group in AC. LOL

        CQ's mental approach to TM
        1) complain about conditions
        2) bring down expectations before matches and tournaments (Media will help)
        3) Make opponents seem stronger than they really are (Media will help)
        - Good result = CQ is a genius
        - Bad result = IFF is corrupt. No preparation. no clothing etc. etc.

        Look there is a pattern here.
        Right now we are at phase 1.
        Not being able to book airline tickets on time for TM or failing to book a hotel for TM when they arrive at a country or fail to buy 22 pair of boots that perform better in rainy condition has nothing to do with our football infrastructure. How can CQ look into the future and think to himself that they are gonna bring a bunch of extras on IFF's tab and spend the last dollars on their buddies where they wont be able to pay for a new set of boots.
        I think what CQ is mostly upset about is not the fact that our pitches are not perfect but IFF fails at the most simple tasks of organization.

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          #49
          Originally posted by foadm_2000 View Post
          Not being able to book airline tickets on time for TM or failing to book a hotel for TM when they arrive at a country or fail to buy 22 pair of boots that perform better in rainy condition has nothing to do with our football infrastructure. How can CQ look into the future and think to himself that they are gonna bring a bunch of extras on IFF's tab and spend the last dollars on their buddies where they wont be able to pay for a new set of boots.
          I think what CQ is mostly upset about is not the fact that our pitches are not perfect but IFF fails at the most simple tasks of organization.
          You mean it's not normal for a national team manager to be mamnu ol khorouj?!

          I heard Klinsman has to go through the same crap all the time.
          راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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            #50
            isnt CQ still barred from leaving the country? He mentioned not being able to attend the WC draws and said he's being held hostage because the board at iFF wouldn't approve of his resignation. (He mentioned multiple times he came up with the best solution with Kaffashian to terminate the contract so both parties dont see too much damage).

            That makes all the "why isn't he just leaving then" talk irrelevant. It's obvious they want CQ because they know hes the best choice and can produce the best result considering the situations we have to deal with and nobody else can deal with this mess. It also should be very obvious that there's a group of people that is doing everything they can so CQ isn't successful - at end of the day all this drama is because of lack of financial support and delivering when only few millions would help us in great extend.

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              #51
              Originally posted by foadm_2000 View Post
              Not being able to book airline tickets on time for TM or failing to book a hotel for TM when they arrive at a country or fail to buy 22 pair of boots that perform better in rainy condition has nothing to do with our football infrastructure. How can CQ look into the future and think to himself that they are gonna bring a bunch of extras on IFF's tab and spend the last dollars on their buddies where they wont be able to pay for a new set of boots.
              I think what CQ is mostly upset about is not the fact that our pitches are not perfect but IFF fails at the most simple tasks of organization.
              Like I said before, he had worked in Iran for 4 years. Then signed a 4 year extension after the WC. Now he is saying that given the conditions he is not going to promise any success.

              No sympathy. He knew what he was getting into.
              If he thinks he can't do it, then he shouldn't have stayed.
              If he thinks he can do it, then he needs to be quiet, stop the complaining and just do his job.

              If we want an excuse maker we can just bring back Mayelikohan.

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                #52
                Originally posted by clipsport View Post
                Like I said before, he had worked in Iran for 4 years. Then signed a 4 year extension after the WC. Now he is saying that given the conditions he is not going to promise any success.

                No sympathy. He knew what he was getting into.
                If he thinks he can't do it, then he shouldn't have stayed.
                If he thinks he can do it, then he needs to be quiet, stop the complaining and just do his job.

                If we want an excuse maker we can just bring back Mayelikohan.
                Your seeing things from a wrong perspective. Your basically saying "this is what we have and this is what who we are, he has to deal with it and not complain". The problem is the real people that are behind our football and behind the curtains that will never let us improve our football because they're racking in too much money off this unprofessional environment and CQ is trying to warn us about this.

                You say we shouldn't pay $4 million to him instead should try to fix our football? What did we do to improve before him? And exactly who will spend $4million to fix our football? The same people that can't book a hotel room or buy a pair of shoes for our players?

                You're saying he should stay quite and and ignore all problems, How much did we find out about our own federation by him speaking the truth? Wouldn't it be easier for him to stay quite do his job and leave , get paid $$ and on to the next one?

                The fact that he's speaking up beats your point actually.

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                  #53
                  Here are a couple of videos:

                  http://video.varzesh3.com/iran/%D8%B...7%D8%A7%D9%86/

                  http://video.varzesh3.com/iran/%DA%A9%D9%86%D9%81%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%B3-%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%B1%DB%8C-%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B2-%DA%A9%DB%8C%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B4/


                  This "hostage" comment is VERY serious. As more information is being released, I'm really starting to think they're not letting him leave Iran unless he pays the termination penalty.

                  If that's the case, my heart totally goes out to him and we can almost be sure that once he'll leave Iran for the Turkmenistan game, he won't be returning and create a real embarrassing situation for IFF.

                  If IFF want to pursue the issue of termination penalties legally (i.e. court of arbitration), if the contract is worded as such, I have no problem with that but to take someone hostage is the epitome of uncivilized behavior and completely unacceptable. Very shameful.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Bi-honar View Post
                    I'm not liking this shit show either and don't really care who's to blame - the situation is not good for TM and that's the only thing I care about.

                    You can read the whole interview here on V3, but don't expect to understand what's going on - he basically says he wants to stay, has to stay because of his contract, but can not continue!!! I have no clue what that means or where it leaves us:

                    http://www.varzesh3.com/news/?itemid...A7%D9%8A%D8%AA!
                    Basically, Kaffashain was telling the truth...CQ's heart is not with Iran or TM...but instead of working this out, Kaffashian will save his bacon by forcing CQ to abide by his contract. We are doomed

                    Originally posted by rugs View Post
                    What he is saying makes complete sense. Again, only if you have ever lived and worked in Iran will you completely understand what he is saying and know all the garbage he has to go through.

                    I bet there are thousands of people in Iran who wish they could say the same thing about their current employment, but fear losing their job or be imprisoned.
                    I hate to break it to you, but most people in the world feel this way about their employment and employer. I am sure the economic realities make it crappier in Iran, but I haven't heard very many people say "oh I can't use a pay raise" or "I need less time off"...around the water cooler if you aren't b*tching about your employer then you must be gossiping...
                    Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Bi-honar View Post
                      Here are a couple of videos:

                      http://video.varzesh3.com/iran/%D8%B...7%D8%A7%D9%86/

                      http://video.varzesh3.com/iran/%DA%A9%D9%86%D9%81%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%B3-%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%B1%DB%8C-%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B2-%DA%A9%DB%8C%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B4/


                      This "hostage" comment is VERY serious. I'm starting to think they're not letting him leave Iran unless he pays the termination penalty.

                      If that's the case, we can almost be sure that once he'll leave Iran for the Turkmenistan game, he won't be returning and create a real embarrassing situation for IFF.
                      Those streams never play for me so I download the file...and can't find it because it's named "keyrosh_konferans_940125.mp4" LOL
                      Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                        Those streams never play for me so I download the file...and can't find it because it's named "keyrosh_konferans_940125.p4" LOL
                        It was the same for me bro (and same for CBC videos), until someone (I think it was Camran-khan) told me to change my banner settings.

                        You probably have anti-banner or something along those lines enabled in your security program. Disable or add these sites to your exception list and you're good to go.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                          Basically, Kaffashain was telling the truth...CQ's heart is not with Iran or TM...but instead of working this out, Kaffashian will save his bacon by forcing CQ to abide by his contract. We are doomed
                          Yes! Nothing says "I don't care about Team Melli" like being more concerned with funding and logistics for the national team than those "Iranians" who are in charge of the funding and logistics. Perfectly logical.

                          I hate to break it to you, but most people in the world feel this way about their employment and employer. I am sure the economic realities make it crappier in Iran, but I haven't heard very many people say "oh I can't use a pay raise" or "I need less time off"...around the water cooler if you aren't b*tching about your employer then you must be gossiping...
                          Is he asking for a raise and more time off or is he asking for funding for the team he's responsible for? Are these really the same to you?... For your analogy to work, this would be like hiring an architect but failing to pay the construction costs. If there's any problem here, it ain't with him.

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                            #58
                            As usual, he is trying to get the maximum resources in every aspect for Team Melli, but seems this time he won't get it and therefore knows it will be highly problematic but doesn't want to pay for IFF incompetence.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by xerexes View Post
                              Yes! Nothing says "I don't care about Team Melli" like being more concerned with funding and logistics for the national team than those "Iranians" who are in charge of the funding and logistics. Perfectly logical.

                              Is he asking for a raise and more time off or is he asking for funding for the team he's responsible for? Are these really the same to you?... For your analogy to work, this would be like hiring an architect but failing to pay the construction costs. If there's any problem here, it ain't with him.
                              Dude, maybe I should clarify, CQ's heart is not with TM as the situation currently stands. I am siding with CQ on this one...guess you have your boxing gloves blocking your view...always trying to pick a fight.

                              And the second point was not about CQ, but rugs' assertion that you have to be in Iran to understand what CQ is going through Again, more or less saying CQ is right on this issue...and IFF is trying to save face by saying we want him but he doesn't want us.

                              ps. Have a read of my disclaimer before you try to pick an argument next time...
                              Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                                Dude, maybe I should clarify, CQ's heart is not with TM as the situation currently stands. I am siding with CQ on this one...guess you have your boxing gloves blocking your view...always trying to pick a fight.
                                When you try to equate this situation with average people's problems with their employers and wanting raises and time off, it's hard to conclude you're siding with him.

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