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    #91
    Originally posted by clipsport View Post
    Perfect example of Navad (and media) propaganda against GN.
    SS was eliminated for 2007 AFC champions league. GN had just gotten fired from TM. Samad Marfavi was head coach that season. GN didn't return to SS until May 2008.

    You should try harder to not be so obviously biased. Maybe then you wouldn't make so many mistakes and look so silly.

    Both from the same day. I guess Iran Varzeshi and all the SS fans are a perfect example of propaganda against GN

    or...

    You are just wrong, like you usually are.


    شعار عليه قلعه نويى
    ايران ورزشى- ديروز با اينكه استقلال برده بود برخى از تماشاگران به امير قلعه نويى معترض بودند. جمعى از هواداران استقلال مقابل اتاقك شيشه اى ورزشگاه آزادى تجمع كرده و از امير قلعه نويى خواستار سر و سامان دادن به اوضاع تيمشان بودند. برخى از هواداران نيز با شعارهايى عليه رييس سازمان فوتبال استقلال، از قلعه نويى مى خواستند تا استقلال را رها كند.
    قلعه نويى: نمى توانند تيم اول آسيا را حذف كنند
    ايران ورزشى - امير قلعه نويى درباره خبر محروميت استقلال از حضور در ليگ قهرمانان آسيا مى گويد: ما و سپاهان به موقع مداركمان را ارسال كرديم و خطرى استقلال را تهديد نمى كند. مهلت AFC تا ۲۲ فوريه بود و ما هم يك روز قبل ليست را پست كرديم حالا اينكه چرا به مقصد نرسيده بايد ديد ايراد كار از كجاست.
    سرمربى تيم ملى همچنين در جايى گفته بعيد است استقلال از حضور در ليگ قهرمانان محروم شود و در نهايت جريمه اى شامل حال باشگاه مى شود. فكر نمى كرديم خبر محروميتمان جدى باشد و حالا كه اين خبر روى سايت AFC آمده تعجب كرده ايم.قلعه نويى در پايان گفته استقلال تيم كوچكى نيست و بلايى كه سر نماينده هاى مالزى و اندونزى آمده را نمى توانند سر تيم اول آسيا دربياورند.
    Source: Iran Varzeshi
    سال هفتم - ۲۷۸۲
    شنبه ۲۸ بهمن ۱۳۸۵
    ۲۸ محرم ۱۴۲۸
    Feb 17, 2007
    http://web.archive.org/web/200702251...world4.htm#top
    راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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      #92
      Originally posted by clipsport View Post
      So actually you're wrong. Get your facts right.
      راه یکی است و آن راستی است lol

      So you decided to add this later.

      Shame on you for ridiculing such a nice sentence while doing the exact opposite.

      I suggest you learn it and abide by it. Telling the truth is nothing to be ridiculed.
      راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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        #93
        ^ I don't really know where this stuff is from. Iranian newspapers write a lot of BS. GN wasn't in charge of SS in 2007. He left SS in 2006 and returned two seasons after in 2008. Like I said, Samad Marfavi was head coach back then. So why would it be GN's responsibility to send team roster? And as far as this Sporting director role, it's most likely a "moshaver fani" role that GN had after he left SS for TM. This was not an administrative role.

        But I guess he was somewhere around SS so it must be all his fault.

        Then I guess CQ was also somewhere around IFF when they didn't notice a player had two yellow cards and got eliminated for the Olympics.

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          #94
          Originally posted by rugs View Post
          So you decided to add this later.

          Shame on you for ridiculing such a nice sentence while doing the exact opposite.

          I suggest you learn it and abide by it. Telling the truth is nothing to be ridiculed.
          It's a shame that you have to put that as your signature.
          Just look at your other videos. Khosrow Heydari v. Pejman Montazeri crossing.
          You took one good cross by Montazeri and one bad cross by Heydari. You call that the truth? Are you kidding me?

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            #95
            Originally posted by clipsport View Post
            ^ I don't really know where this stuff is. GN wasn't in charge of SS in 2007. He left SS in 2006 and returned two seasons after in 2008. Like I said, Samad Marfavi was head coach back then. So why would it be GN's responsibility to send team roster? And as far as this Sporting director role, it's most likely a "moshaver fani" role that GN had after he left SS for TM. This was not an administrative role.

            But I guess he was somewhere around SS so it must be all his fault.

            Then I guess CQ was also somewhere around IFF when they didn't notice a player had two yellow cards and got eliminated for the Olympics.
            Lol, how pathetic can this get?

            Do you not know how to read Persian? Do you also not understand Persian?

            You have the audio/visual interview and the text news story. He was in charge of sending the list. He says they mailed it the day before! From Iran! He says that worst case the AFC will fine them. He says that he didn't believe the news till he read it on the AFC's website! SS fans were calling for him to leave SS because of his mess!

            Just in case you already forgot: راه یکی است و آن راستی است
            راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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              #96
              Originally posted by clipsport View Post
              ^ You are wrong. Like most real Iranians, I fully support TM. But it breaks my heart to see us lose to a weak team like Iraq in Asian Cup. It hurts to see TM become so defensive over the years that we have to park the bus against UAE and Qatar. I feel embarrassed.

              If I support GN at SS it's because he's brought us 5 championships as a coach + many more as a player (I don't really remember those though). Otherwise if he's just getting paid and not delivering, then why should I support him or anyone else for that matter.

              Trust me there is no conspiracy or agenda on my end to get GN to become TM coach.
              Ghalenoi has always had the best players whenever he won any championship. He'll gain my respect and many others when he becomes champion with bunch of newcomers that no one barely knows about, something mansourian and GM are doing. otherwise, honar karde. Last year he had some of the best players in IPL in his team and couldn't deliver. His tactics are tekrari, his practices are boring and old, he said the second half against Malavan was the best Esteghlal played in second half of the season and no one could see why because we were getting dominated. This guy has the balls to talk about the TM coach. I have no respect for him and he's destroying my beloved team with his unnecessary hashiye and corruption. How many different coaches, players, etc, have said this guy is corrupted and has bought many around him. He sits and reads the newspaper at practice instead of fixing his team. He tells his team "you guys haven't played your best" over and over in each practice instead of focusing on their weaknesses. He refuses to talk to some of his players at all, who does that? He refuses to get a fitness coach, why is he in denial? beats me. I just cant respect him because a good coach moves forward with modern football not sticking with his old plans that once worked but obviously is failing now and refuses to see the truth and always blames everyone and everything else.

              Again over 90% of people on PFDC respect and see what CQ has done except you - that's ok , i respect your opinion but almost every one of your posts are anti-Q and you give the guy absolutely no credit. You say we lost to Iraq, but dont mention we played over 80min with 10 players and we came back and tied twice, it came down to PKs. It would have been a complete different story if we didn't get that RC but you refuse to see that and it amazes me if you have no agenda as you say.

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                #97
                ^ 90% of my posts are anti-CQ.
                90% anti-Beitashour.
                90% pro GN.
                etc. etc.

                btw, I'm really amazed at what GN has to do with this.

                I criticize CQ and the response to that is something about GN in 2007. Some of the logic here is beyond me.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by clipsport View Post
                  I criticize CQ and the response to that is something about GN in 2007. Some of the logic here is beyond me.
                  No, it's more the fact that you make stuff up and try to call other people liars when in fact it is you who is not telling the truth.

                  If you don't want us to talk about CQ or GN or TM training conditions, don't make stuff up about them.

                  Again: راه یکی است و آن راستی است
                  راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by rugs View Post
                    Lol, how pathetic can this get?

                    Do you not know how to read Persian? Do you also not understand Persian?

                    You have the audio/visual interview and the text news story. He was in charge of sending the list. He says they mailed it the day before! From Iran! He says that worst case the AFC will fine them. He says that he didn't believe the news till he read it on the AFC's website! SS fans were calling for him to leave SS because of his mess!

                    Just in case you already forgot: راه یکی است و آن راستی است
                    I'm sure the the anti-GN propoganda media like Ali Javadi etc (The guys with the real agenda) were quick to blame a "fani"(technical) guy for an administrative error. He wasn't even the head coach at the time.

                    But if you are going to blame a "fani" guy for an administrative error for a team that he was not even managing, then lets also blame CQ for the 2012 Olympics team error. Why not.

                    Seriously. You are going to put the blame of the 2007 ACL error on GN and you have the audacity to talk about truth.

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                      ^ 90% of my posts are anti-CQ
                      Actually, the post was over 90% here in this forum support CQ but nice try. Again, how is it that so many support and see what Q has done for TM but not you?

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                        Originally posted by clipsport View Post
                        btw, I'm really amazed at what GN has to do with this.
                        GN has a lot to do with it as far as YOUR posts are concerned, because when you're not bashing CQ you're usually defending GN. It defies reason that a guy who likes GN would pretend to have standards that CQ fails to live up to! You're like a guy who drives a used Honda and acts like BMW is beneath him. If it's not an agenda, it can only be a lack of common sense.

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                          Originally posted by xerexes View Post
                          GN has a lot to do with it as far as YOUR posts are concerned, because when you're not bashing CQ you're usually defending GN. It defies reason that a guy who likes GN would pretend to have standards that CQ fails to live up to! You're like a guy who drives a used Honda and acts like BMW is beneath him. If it's not an agenda, it can only be a lack of common sense.
                          And when I bring 0-60 second times or a track time of a Honda and "BMW" (lol) and they are identical, then someone like you is quick with the excuses. Well the tires were low on pressure, the track was slippery, and so on.

                          You can't truly defend CQ b/c he hasn't really done much for us, so you resort to bashing GN. What else can you do?

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                            Originally posted by clipsport View Post
                            And when I bring 0-60 second times or a track time of a Honda and "BMW" (lol) and they are identical, then someone like you is quick with the excuses. Well the tires were low on pressure, the track was slippery, and so on.

                            You can't truly defend CQ b/c he hasn't really done much for us, so you resort to bashing GN. What else can you do?
                            We can point out that you said you suck more than Mehrdad.
                            I went to Sharif University. I'm a superior genetic mutation, an improvement on the existing mediocre stock.

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                              Originally posted by clipsport View Post
                              And when I bring 0-60 second times or a track time of a Honda and "BMW" (lol) and they are identical, then someone like you is quick with the excuses. Well the tires were low on pressure, the track was slippery, and so on.
                              Only a 14 year old who started following football this week would even suggest that CQ and GN's contributions to TM were identical or even similar. The problem with CQ bashers is not only do you not understand football, you lack even basic reasoning to get things when they're repeatedly pointed out to you.

                              With CQ we have the longest winning streak against Asians since the '70s, qualified to the World Cup by winning the group, beat Chile and were unlucky not to beat Argentina, all at a time when our clubs get spanked by Uzbeks and Arabs! CQ accomplished the above in the same period your hero (who you pretend not to like but defend at every turn) couldn't even get past the goddamn group stage at ACL!

                              You really don't get all this? Seriously?... Again, for your own sake this better be some sort of agenda. Otherwise you got major problems that go way beyond football.

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                                guys, its useless to argue back and forth with Clipsport. cmon! jamesh konid. he does not make sense and repeats his non sense over and over again! why would you even take him seriously! waste of time.

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