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    CQ Stats in TM vs other TM Coaches

    This is pretty much an exact replication to the thread made on CQ's coaching results in RM, but in regards to TM.
    As you can clearly see, he has not done anything outstanding as some claim.

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    The typical counter to this will be that CQ took us to the WC. Yes, but just like always in came right down to the wire and lets be honest we got very lucky.
    In 2002 and 2010 luck was not in our favor but in 1998 and 2014 it was.

    #2
    Can you please answer this question



    Originally posted by clipsport View Post
    CQ's mental approach to TM
    1) complain about conditions
    2) bring down expectations before matches and tournaments (Media will help)
    3) Make opponents seem stronger than they really are (Media will help)
    - Good result = CQ is a genius
    - Bad result = IFF is corrupt. No preparation. no clothing etc. etc.

    Look there is a pattern here.
    Right now we are at phase 1.

    Originally posted by rugs View Post
    Wait, let me get this straight, you think conditions are beyond complaining about?!

    Have you ever worked in Iran? When is the last time you saw TM's training ground?

    Originally posted by clipsport View Post
    You already got your answer.
    Originally posted by rugs View Post
    No I didn't. I asked what you think about the conditions and if they are beyond complaining about?
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      #3
      Originally posted by clipsport View Post
      This is pretty much an exact replication to the thread made on CQ's coaching results in RM, but in regards to TM.
      As you can clearly see, he has not done anything outstanding as some claim.

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      The typical counter to this will be that CQ took us to the WC. Yes, but just like always in came right down to the wire and lets be honest we got very lucky.
      In 2002 and 2010 luck was not in our favor but in 1998 and 2010 it was.
      CQ aside...out of all the crappy crappy Iranian coaches we have had...why hasn't Ebrahimzadeh been given a fair shake? It baffles me!? Why GN over EZ? Why Daie over EZ?
      Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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          #5
          CQ Stats in TM vs other TM Coaches

          Before CQ took over after the AC noone considered us to qualify to the WC. if I told you that we would have a do or die game at the last group stage game, everyone would ridiculude me.
          Foreign media ridiculued us before the WC, but their mind has changed. Our last two performances are a good example of our progress

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            #6
            CQ at this point actually has the highest percentage of points per match for a TM coach ever. Look it up. While we're at it, here are some other records distinguishing him from other TM coaches:

            - Winning the WCQ group for the first time since the revolution

            - Sweeping South Korea home and away for the first time in our football history (won the home game with ten men)

            - The longest winning streak against Asian opponents since the revolution

            - Highest FIFA ranking in Asia 13 out of the last 16 months (ranked only second the other three months after Japan). We hadn't been ranked first in the continent for 4 years when he took over in 2011.

            Not bad for a coach who just "parks the bus lulz".

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              #7
              Originally posted by xerexes View Post
              CQ at this point actually has the highest percentage of points per match for a TM coach ever. Look it up. While we're at it, here are some other records distinguishing him from other TM coaches:

              - Winning the WCQ group for the first time since the revolution

              - Sweeping South Korea home and away for the first time in our football history (won the home game with ten men)

              - The longest winning streak against Asian opponents since the revolution

              - Highest FIFA ranking in Asia 13 out of the last 16 months (ranked only second the other three months after Japan). We hadn't been ranked first in the continent for 4 years when he took over in 2011.

              Not bad for a coach who just "parks the bus lulz".
              We topped the group this time, but the last game against korea was do or die, in 2006 we became second but the last game against japan was a friendly as both of us had already qualified (iran was 1st before the japan game), so i think the 2006 wcq was more successful
              Bookmark the PFDC Calendar for TM & WCQ games
              http://sites.google.com/site/pfdccalendar/
              [Click on a game to see detailed description including time]
              Villa + Messi =

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                #8
                When Blazevic, Branko and GN were TM coach we had over 10 players playing in european teams. How many do we have now? If you remember world cup 2006 our players were done by 60th minute and those players were playing and training in excellent european teams. In World cup 2014 our players were running for a whole 90 minutes and keeping up side by side of Nigerians and Argentinians and let's not forget that 95% of these players were training either in IPL or Arabic leagues and he still managed to boost their stamina so they can run a full 120 minutes if necessary.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by don_corleone View Post
                  .. you have to agree, that Ivankovic had much better player material in order to get better results.
                  Not only that, the 2006 WCQ for AFC was much easier than 2014.

                  Back then we were competing with three teams (Japan, North Korea and Bahrain) for TWO automatic qualifying spots. For 2014 we had the same two automatic spots, but this time we had to go up against four teams: South Korea, Qatar, Uzbekistan and a Lebanese side that wasn't easy to beat at home as South Korea found out twice in Beirut. To put things more in perspective, Bahrain in 2006 almost made the World Cup with no wins in EIGHT straight matches, including losing their last 4 group games before making the playoffs! This team was only one goal away from making the World Cup against Trinidad.

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                    #10
                    He took us to the world cup. Compare that to fucking stats.

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                      #11
                      Daei has the best winning percentage among Iran managers with 4 games, yet he lost the most important games. CQ didn't (at least in Asia). That's the difference.

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                        #12
                        Good stats, bad stats, lots of achievements, no achievement, it doesn't really matter any more. He's the TM coach, he's here to stay and all that matters is what happens from here on and we should only hope that it's nothing but good things.

                        We had some good moments of brilliance and a nice mix of defense and offense in the last two friendlies, so hopefully that's a sign of good things to come.

                        I also like to see the generational change happen sooner rather than later - our WCQ games against weaker teams are a perfect time to throw in a couple of new players into the mix for each game.

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                          #13
                          I think CQ has one of the worse TM in terms of talent. aside from ARJ and Sardar who recently joined TM, this TM still has no prominent star.
                          If CQ had a player like AK8 and Mahdavikia we would have been looking at a very different stat.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by foadm_2000 View Post
                            I think CQ has one of the worse TM in terms of talent. aside from ARJ and Sardar who recently joined TM, this TM still has no prominent star.
                            If CQ had a player like AK8 and Mahdavikia we would have been looking at a very different stat.
                            Actually i think that is a reason that he has had success because his tactics are build upon a coherent team. He had one of the best players in the world in Ronaldo and couldn't do much.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ali alipour View Post
                              Actually i think that is a reason that he has had success because his tactics are build upon a coherent team. He had one of the best players in the world in Ronaldo and couldn't do much.
                              Except lose 1-0 on an offside goal to the eventual WC winners in 2010.
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