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    Lak, Makani etc the result of Iranian goal keeping coaches!!!

    Az koozeh haman dar ayad ke dar oost......


    Much has been said and written about Iranian players and the lack of talent at national team level over the last decade. what certain Iranian coaches and US/Iranian TV shows dont want you to know and dont want to address is the simple fact that what you get in any national team is what you produce at your league level. If in fact Iranian football has failed to progress and if in fact we have failed in our national team, it is a finger pointed directly at our league coaches. No national team coach has the time to teach basics and fundamentals. That stuff has to be taught at youth and club levels.

    Time and time again we see our clubs failing to execute the basics and fundemental football rules on the pitch. Hamed Lak in today's important and vital Asian championship game demonstrated just that. Lak single handedly cost Teraktor the game. This was at home in front of a decent home crowd. Who are Iranian GK coaches? Old, outdated and SONATEE coaches such as Sajadi and Faryadshiran are some of the names in Iran. Golampour, one of Iran's worst ever GK ( also known in the football circles as GOLAM KOOR) was PP goalkeeper coaches at one point. These coaches dont have the proper education and are unable to teach the fundamentals. The result is what you see at TM and Asian games.

    Ironically, these old and uneducated coaches are also usually without a job and the first line of attack towards any foreign coach that comes to Iran. It blows my mind that these coaches produce the type of product that we see in our league and in our NT, and yet they criticize and run coaches such as Ivic, Blazvic, Krunchar, Ivankovic and Denizli off. Absolutely mind boggling.

    #2
    Navad had a segment a few months ago about how an international German GK coach came to Iran for a FIFA class but only a few Iranian GK coaches attended.

    But that said, GKs all over the world make mistakes. The 1st goal was pretty bad, I don't know why Lak didn't punch it.
    راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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      #3
      I don't see what this has to do with iranian goalkeeping coaches. I'm pretty sure you don't even know who tractors goal keeping coach is. And your final paragraph has a contradiction since tractors incompetent coach is Portuguese not iranian. I'm sure rahmati, Beiranvand, Haghighi, abedzadeh had iranian goalkeeping coaches...

      Edit: tractors goalkeeping coach is Portuguese lol

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        #4
        Originally posted by rugs View Post
        Navad had a segment a few months ago about how an international German GK coach came to Iran for a FIFA class but only a few Iranian GK coaches attended.

        But that said, GKs all over the world make mistakes. The 1st goal was pretty bad, I don't know why Lak didn't punch it.
        Dooste aziz,

        The second goal was worse that the 1st goal. The ball was kicked for a corner and went stright into the goal at the near post without ever been touched. One mistake in a crucial game is understandable. But 2 HUGE mistakes in one half (both resulting in goals) in a vital game like this is simply suicide.

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          #5
          Originally posted by ali alipour View Post
          I don't see what this has to do with iranian goalkeeping coaches. I'm pretty sure you don't even know who tractors goal keeping coach is. And your final paragraph has a contradiction since tractors incompetent coach is Portuguese not iranian. I'm sure rahmati, Beiranvand, Haghighi, abedzadeh had iranian goalkeeping coaches...

          Edit: tractors goalkeeping coach is Portuguese lol
          I Think you missed the boat.

          I am not talking about who the GK coach is RIGHT NOW. Thats not the point.
          I am talking about the coaches who work with these GK at fundamental levels and younger age. Covering the ball off the 1st post and punching the ball to the sides of the field instead of right into the uncoming traffic are basics.
          Further, if you watched 90s breakdown of Nafts game during their 5-3 loss last week, you would know that Beiranvand had a huge hand in their loss to Zob Ahan.
          Abedzadeh, although loved in Iran and very successful was always criticized for lack of fundamentals and not sticking to basic rules of GK-ing and his superb athletic ability and his mental toughness saved him on many occasions.

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            #6
            Lak and Makani have the potential to be European calibour keepers. Their physique and reflexes are top notch. But you hit the nail on the head with the main issue which is our GK cosches...historically up until event years we never had more than 1 very good keeper per generation and the reason is exactly what u just said.

            Just like at Haghighi when he went to Rubin. Everyone laughed and said it was bazaar garmi because he was in poor form at the time but for the two same reasons Lak and Makani have so much potential (physique, reflexes).....Rubin took the chance with Haghighi and look how he turned out.
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              #7
              What about Rahmati, Beiranvand, Abedzadeh, etc. etc.
              I guess they are a result of somewhere else right?

              Every country and league has good and bad GKs.
              Like in Germany. There is Neuer and then there is Davari.

              Btw, Makani still gets invited to TM somehow.

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                #8
                Originally posted by ghermez agha View Post
                Lak and Makani have the potential to be European calibour keepers. Their physique and reflexes are top notch. But you hit the nail on the head with the main issue which is our GK cosches...historically up until event years we never had more than 1 very good keeper per generation and the reason is exactly what u just said.

                Just like at Haghighi when he went to Rubin. Everyone laughed and said it was bazaar garmi because he was in poor form at the time but for the two same reasons Lak and Makani have so much potential (physique, reflexes).....Rubin took the chance with Haghighi and look how he turned out.
                Bro lak has butter fingers, there is no chance he would ever be European materiel

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                  #9
                  All of our goal keepers have been trained by Iranian coaches except Davari who wasn't reliable either. Makani, Salimi (Foolad) and Lak are terrible goal keepers. But we have some really good ones in Iran. How and where do you think Haghighi was transfered from to russia? From Iran.

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                    #10
                    Rahmati is a glaring example of a tremendously talented keeper with flawed fundamentals..! Not to mention his ridiculously unprofessional attitude.

                    This all prevalent know-it-all, Arrogant mentality of most Iranian coaches is source of all these relatively easy to address issues in our football.

                    IMO, instilling professional attitude in football & renewing pride in representing the national shirt has been CQ's biggest & most important accomplishments @ TM. Add to it his tremendous organization & long term planning skills & diplomatic savvy to effectively counter the deep lying corruption in our federation. This guy well worth every penny of his salary.
                    Results & tactics etc. are just the bonus in my book.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BacheLot View Post
                      Rahmati is a glaring example of a tremendously talented keeper with flawed fundamentals..! Not to mention his ridiculously unprofessional attitude.

                      This all prevalent know-it-all, Arrogant mentality of most Iranian coaches is source of all these relatively easy to address issues in our football.

                      IMO, instilling professional attitude in football & renewing pride in representing the national shirt has been CQ's biggest & most important accomplishments @ TM. Add to it his tremendous organization & long term planning skills & diplomatic savvy to effectively counter the deep lying corruption in our federation. This guy well worth every penny of his salary.
                      Results & tactics etc. are just the bonus in my book.
                      This is our biggest problem.

                      Talent is only one part of being a successful footballer.

                      It's the professionalism and "poshte kar" that we lack.
                      راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by clipsport View Post
                        What about Rahmati, Beiranvand, Abedzadeh, etc. etc.
                        I guess they are a result of somewhere else right?

                        Every country and league has good and bad GKs.
                        Like in Germany. There is Neuer and then there is Davari.

                        Btw, Makani still gets invited to TM somehow.

                        As usaual you obviously didnt read my second post and missed the boat entirely. I addressed the Beyranvand and Abedzadeh issue. You were sleep!!!!

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by clipsport View Post
                          What about Rahmati, Beiranvand, Abedzadeh, etc. etc.
                          I guess they are a result of somewhere else right?

                          Every country and league has good and bad GKs.
                          Like in Germany. There is Neuer and then there is Davari.

                          Btw, Makani still gets invited to TM somehow.
                          Makani is more than decent. his biggest problem in my opinion is that he is very inconsistent . if you look closely he plays with so much more confidence every single time he gets back from a TM camp, then slowly his confidence fades away.

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                            #14
                            Makani actually can be very decent and has a lot of potential. Lak on the other hand the only thing he does well is kissing the ball before his goal kicks.

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