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    #16
    Originally posted by xerexes View Post
    Have you seen his GN youtube channel? He's already chosen his camp And just one correction: He's not at all looking for a debate here. In fact he tries as much as he can to avoid debates. He just wants to use this board the way he uses his GN channel. Like a private blog to defend Amir Mafia's honor and bash those he has beef with.

    He's already been discredited by everyone except maybe one or two who share the same sorry agenda cloaked in the banner of tribalism and jogo bonito (as displayed by Esteghlal in ACL and IPL).
    No I haven't seen it but I'm not surprised. What surprises me though is that he defends GN even though he has been getting poor results and when you question his support, he says that's what fans do and we have to support our team and coach no matter what. But when CQ who's our coach of national team loses one match, he goes bananas and starts bashing him and wants CQ to be fired immediately. So much contradiction in his posts and it's obvious that he has an agenda.

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      #17
      Originally posted by xerexes View Post
      Have you seen his GN youtube channel?
      On another note is this your footballitarin username Rex Xerxes? You post pretty cool videos there.

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        #18
        Originally posted by AminGP View Post
        So much contradiction in his posts and it's obvious that he has an agenda.
        Bingo. As I said before I actually hope there's some sort of personal or business connection behind all this. That would make it a little less weird.

        Originally posted by AminGP View Post
        On another note is this your footballitarin username Rex Xerxes? You post pretty cool videos there.
        No That's not me.

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          #19
          CQ will leave

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            #20
            Originally posted by Ab-Gosht View Post
            CQ will leave
            Says who?

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              #21
              Originally posted by clipsport View Post
              Why is CQ even staying under these conditions. Yek zare shakhsiat dashte bash. Hamash ke pool nist zendegi.
              Brilliantly put, except directed at the wrong individual. The country is being run by a bunch of murdering thieves who are only interested in how much more they can steal from Iran and Iranians alike each minute of the day, they are the bishakhsiat pool-parast people you should be worried about!! ASSadi and co. are the bishakhsiat individuals!!
              He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt, for he has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. Albert Einstein

              Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted, the indifference of those who should have known better, and the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most that has made it possible for evil to triumph.

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                #22
                Originally posted by AminGP View Post
                No I haven't seen it but I'm not surprised. What surprises me though is that he defends GN even though he has been getting poor results and when you question his support, he says that's what fans do and we have to support our team and coach no matter what. But when CQ who's our coach of national team loses one match, he goes bananas and starts bashing him and wants CQ to be fired immediately. So much contradiction in his posts and it's obvious that he has an agenda.
                You are actually wrong about that. I'm pretty pissed at GN right now. We are 6th place in IPL right now. Are you kidding me. He got into a fight with Rahmati, then Ando. Got rid of Samuel and isn't really using the young players like he did at the beginning of the season. With all due respect to Forouzan, if he had kept Rahmati we wouldn't be in this position.

                I wouldn't mind if he leaves SS at the end of the season. All he does is take the team to hashiye and fight with those idiots on navad. But 2 more weeks left in IPL. If we get a ACL spot and win the derby, then we shall see. if not then get the F out.

                yea so much for having an agenda. I want results. If you can't get it, there is the door. That goes for CQ GN and anyone else.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by AminGP View Post
                  Your posts have been popping up wherever there's a discussion about CQ and I've tried to stay away from replying to your posts cause it looks like you're always looking to pick a debate with someone.

                  What type of groups do you really want to associate yourself with?

                  Group 1: Gol Mohammadi, Mansourian, Daie, Peyrovani, Karimi
                  Group 2: Mayeli Kohan, Goodarzi, Azizi, GN, Derakhshan

                  Honestly I would start questioning my own intelligence if I realized my thoughts are in the same line as group 2.
                  It's not about picking sides. I have my own opinion. For example, Majid Jalali and Faraki are anti-CQ as well. So is Abedzadeh and a lot of the IPL coaches and pishkesvats.

                  But you have to also understand that it's a lot harder to come out and criticize CQ than it is to come out and support CQ. Remember when Hooman Afazeli came on Shabake Varzesh and criticized CQ. He said that a lot of people had messaged him and thanked him for saying what they were afraid to say.

                  The media in Iran has created a bashing atmosphere for anyone who criticizes CQ. Just look at what people are saying about Azizi after he attacked CQ. He went from hero to zero overnight in the eyes of many.

                  btw, Why is Karimi in the pro-CQ camp. Did he ever come out and outright show his support for CQ?

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                    #24
                    ادعای تکان دهنده تارتار: آنالیز نود به ضرر تیم هاست
                    پنجشنبه 17 اردیبهشت ساعت 14:30

                    آی اسپورت- صحبت های تازه سرمربی تیم فوتبال صبای قم، حتی از حرف های دیروز وزیر ورزش در مورد کارلوس کی روش نیز عجیب تر به نظر می رسند. مهدی تارتار، در گفتگوی امروزش با یکی از رسانه ها، دست روی نکته ای باورنکردنی گذاشته و تاکید کرده که آنالیزِ برنامه نود که اخیرا به بقش های این برنامه اضافه شده است، بر خلاف تصور فردوسی پور هیچ کمکی به فوتبال ایران نمی کند و بلکه به ضرر تیم هاست، چرا که نقشه های فنی آن ها را لو می دهد!

                    اینکه یکی از مربیان جوان فوتبال ایران، چنین نگاهی به یک بخش ساده آماری و فنی داشته باشد، به خودی خود نشان دهنده اوضاع استیلای کارهای تاکتیکی در بین مربیان ایرانی لیگ برتر است. تارتار نگاه چند دقیقه ای نود به مسابقه های مهم را، مخل کارهای فنی مربیان می داند. این ادعا در شرایطی مطرح می شود که طبعا او و همه مربیان دیگر لیگ برتر، باید برای مسابقه های هر هفته؛ ده ها برابر آنچه در نود انجام می شود کارهای مبتنی بر آنالیز انجام بدهد

                    هراس از لو رفتن تاکتیک ها روی آنتن نود، عمقِ فاجعه تاکتیکی فوتبال ایران را به نمایش می گذارد. اینجا ظاهرا ممکن است تعدادی از مربیان، با تماشای نود پی به نقاط ضعف و قوت حریف ببرند و نه با تماشای فیلم بازی ها و انجام آنالیزهای فنی و آماری روزانه

                    This is from iSport and it gives you a good idea of why the players are solidly behind CQ and why certain losers are so threatened by him. To summarize, it talks about the headcoach of Saba claiming Navad's recent short clips of tactical analysis are "damaging" to IPL teams because he thinks it gives away their tactics to the opposing coach! It says this highlights the disastrous lack of tactical planning by Iranian coaches when teams at this level should have ten times more analysis of their own than what Navad shows in those clips.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by clipsport View Post
                      It's not about picking sides. I have my own opinion. For example, Majid Jalali and Faraki are anti-CQ as well. So is Abedzadeh and a lot of the IPL coaches and pishkesvats.

                      But you have to also understand that it's a lot harder to come out and criticize CQ than it is to come out and support CQ. Remember when Hooman Afazeli came on Shabake Varzesh and criticized CQ. He said that a lot of people had messaged him and thanked him for saying what they were afraid to say.

                      The media in Iran has created a bashing atmosphere for anyone who criticizes CQ. Just look at what people are saying about Azizi after he attacked CQ. He went from hero to zero overnight in the eyes of many.

                      btw, Why is Karimi in the pro-CQ camp. Did he ever come out and outright show his support for CQ?
                      Actually, Abedzadeh was a supporter of CQ until recently. Please recollect the event that took place which made him change his mind overnight.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by clipsport View Post
                        It's not about picking sides. I have my own opinion. For example, Majid Jalali and Faraki are anti-CQ as well. So is Abedzadeh and a lot of the IPL coaches and pishkesvats.

                        But you have to also understand that it's a lot harder to come out and criticize CQ than it is to come out and support CQ. Remember when Hooman Afazeli came on Shabake Varzesh and criticized CQ. He said that a lot of people had messaged him and thanked him for saying what they were afraid to say.

                        The media in Iran has created a bashing atmosphere for anyone who criticizes CQ. Just look at what people are saying about Azizi after he attacked CQ. He went from hero to zero overnight in the eyes of many.

                        btw, Why is Karimi in the pro-CQ camp. Did he ever come out and outright show his support for CQ?
                        Hashemian came out and criticized CQ as well. He made a rational argument and expressed it like a professional.


                        The problem with the other clowns is that, like you, they make stupid arguments. Did you forget when you tried to criticize CQ when he complained that IFF wasn't holding up their end of the contract by providing proper facilities and you tried to claim that the conditions in Iran are fine even though you have never seen them?

                        People are upset at stupid arguments they hear, not the fact that there are people criticizing CQ. We all have our critiques of CQ, we just don't make stupid arguments.
                        راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by K. Nader View Post
                          Actually, Abedzadeh was a supporter of CQ until recently. Please recollect the event that took place which made him change his mind overnight.
                          Nothing like getting a visa for your baby boy to give someone a new outlook on modern football and proper coaching

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                            #28
                            Yet another "jalaseh sarneveshtsaz " on Saturday for TM and CQ

                            Damn this is crazy if I was CQ I would leave

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by rugs View Post
                              Hashemian came out and criticized CQ as well. He made a rational argument and expressed it like a professional.

                              People are upset at stupid arguments they hear, not the fact that there are people criticizing CQ. We all have our critiques of CQ, we just don't make stupid arguments.
                              What was hashemians argument?

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by DireStraits View Post
                                What was hashemians argument?
                                he said we didn't use properly of CQ which i agree.
                                IRI's politics is no different than handling a pressure cooker ..... As the pressure builds up, you slowly let the steam out just a tad bit so that you don't see overflow, and once the pressure from below is less, you put the lid down again and raise the temperature.

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