Do you consider Afghans and Tajiks as Persian or not?

[persepolisfan]

Only if they are white

[Ghomarbaaz]

Off Course!
The Empire of Persia stretched all the way to middle of Russia from north and to India from East and Turkey from west.
In fact, every country whose name ends with Stan (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Ghazaghistan, ...etc) were all states of the Empire... Stan in old
Farsi is like the word "Ostan" meaning state or province.

While it's true that Iran is the last state of the Empire of Persia still standing in it's own sovereign state, they are all Persian.

[Karimi 8]

I consider them more as our "cousins" than as Persians. I would welcome them to this board, but in general I do not think they are Persians, they are their own people, their own country, and some of them share the same language and cultural traits as us but that still doesn't make them Persian to me. Many Iranians aren't even Persian, we are very diverse, so I don't think what I am saying is wrong.

[golffan]

This is wrong poll. The problem is that you have not defined what you mean by Persians? Iran has always been multi cultural. Even before Aryan came to Iran, there were people living in Iran. If by Persians you mean Farsi speaking people only, your question is wrong. If by Persian, you mean people in Greater Iran, Then your question is correct. Remember that for example, the People in Azerbaijan, spoke Farsi before Mongols and Turks attached and conquered Iran and settled their capital in Azerbaijan. Race did not change. Language was forced to change. You can hardly see Turkish or Mongol looking people in Azerbaijan. It would be good to change your question in the poll first.

So, my reply is people in Tajikistan, south Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan are all Iranians ethnically.

[xerexes]

Persian is a race.

Iranian is a nationality.

While it's true that Iranian is a nationality, Persian is an ethnicity, not a race. Similar to the way Japanese and Vietnamese are ethnic groups but neither by itself is a race.

[irani8perspolis]

I clicked yes for both, but this question is incorrect. No, they are not Persians, BUT they are a Iranic people so thats why I chose both. So they are in the same family as Persians but not exactly.

[sedee91]

Hey Mods, why isn't this in the General Discussion Forum?

[Ali.Karimi79]

Well, they're not ethnically Persian (after all, even in Iran, the Persians are only one of the many diverse ethnic groups), and linguistically not all of them could be considered Persian either, e.g. Pashtuns (although I'm not sure if you're counting Pashtuns in with the Afghans, but since you're referring to their national leagues, I'm going to assume so).
They are an Iranian people though.

I basically said the exact same thing before you, so why neg repping me? wtf.

[Dejagah#21]

Persian is a race.

Iranian is a nationality.

Afghans are neither, some Tajik's consider themselves Iranian...

We have Iranian-Arabs, Iranian-Azeri's, Iranian-Baluchi among others including Iranian-Persians...

Persian's birthplace is the province of Fars(Shiraz).

what a bunch of bs!!! So you are not persian if you and jad-dar-jadet are born in tehran??

[pdot]

Really no one is no longer Persian as Persia no longer exists. We are Iranian.

You can go ahead and define yourself as Persian but so can Afghans, Pakistanis, etc.

[caligula]

pashtuns are more related to pakis

[PersianLegion]

pashtuns are more related to pakis

When I am talking about Afghans are more relating to Tajiks, Farsiwan, and Hazara. Pashtuns are predominantly a separate ethinic like Kurds.

[Team Melli Fan]

Persian is an ethnicity, Iranian is a nationality. Afghans and Tajiks are Iranic people.

[PersianLegion]

Persian is ethnicity and it includes Tajiks. Period.

[persianpopinjay]

I basically said the exact same thing before you, so why neg repping me? wtf.

The fuck?! Lol I was pretty sure I clicked approve but anyhow.
Sorry, I think it was an accident. My computer got screwed up at the time and I meant to click 'approve', not neg rep you. We all get trigger happy at times, so again, apologies.
If there is any way to undo it, it would be much appreciated if someone could kindly advise this novice. TY
PS On an unrelated sidenote, is approving a post the same as thanking? Thanks