Do you consider Afghans and Tajiks as Persian or not?

[persepolisfan]

I consider them more Iranian then azeri and khuzestani separatists.

[Dreamer]

Great idea to ask a bunch of paniranists what they think about Afghans and Tajiks ...

[littlepersia17]

I am just asking out of interest, what made you parents move to Iran? As you have mentioned your parents are Feyli Kurds, I assuming your family once got expelled by Saddam Hussain ? I know Feylis were heavily prosecuted and ethnic cleansed in Iraq, and they got falsely labelled as Iranians because they coincidently happen to be both Shia and non-Arab .

I would consider you Iranian in every way possible since you were born in Iran and bought up speaking the language. I remember we had some other member called Kurdi who happened to be an Iranian Kurd but supported and preferred to be more Iraqi than Iranian without any connection to Iraq other than being a Kurd. Its good you prefer to be Iranian and proud of it, but doesn't mean you shouldn't be proud of your families Iraqi past.

I from Australia as well and was born here but I simply consider myself being an Iranian Australian. Maybe when I have children, they will call themselves simply Australian not Iranian anymore.

Yes you guessed correct. Both my parent's family were expelled by Saddam Hussein regime during the early 70's.

I don't at all consider my parents Iraqis because Kurds are hated by other Iraqis. They are badly treated by Iraqis!




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[Zamboor]

Yes you guessed correct. Both my parent's family were expelled by Saddam Hussein regime during the early 70's.

I don't at all consider my parents Iraqis because Kurds are hated by other Iraqis. They are badly treated by Iraqis!



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according to history its said that Kurd feylis are from Ilam. So hence not Iraqi but Iranian. But once again what is Iraqi? nothing but made up borders by the west after the fall of the ottoman empire.

[KeonKish]

according to history its said that Kurd feylis are from Ilam. So hence not Iraqi but Iranian. But once again what is Iraqi? nothing but made up borders by the west after the fall of the ottoman empire.

I agree, iraqi is not an ethnicity, they have saudi/kuwaiti type arabs in the south, iranian kurds in the north and north east, and syriac/levantine arabs in the north west.

[RaginG Inferno]

I am just asking out of interest, what made you parents move to Iran? As you have mentioned your parents are Feyli Kurds, I assuming your family once got expelled by Saddam Hussain ? I know Feylis were heavily prosecuted and ethnic cleansed in Iraq, and they got falsely labelled as Iranians because they coincidently happen to be both Shia and non-Arab .

I would consider you Iranian in every way possible since you were born in Iran and bought up speaking the language. I remember we had some other member called Kurdi who happened to be an Iranian Kurd but supported and preferred to be more Iraqi than Iranian without any connection to Iraq other than being a Kurd. Its good you prefer to be Iranian and proud of it, but doesn't mean you shouldn't be proud of your families Iraqi past.

I from Australia as well and was born here but I simply consider myself being an Iranian Australian. Maybe when I have children, they will call themselves simply Australian not Iranian anymore.

Kurds are Iranians. There may be significant Kurdish populations located in Turkey and Iraq, but they are an Iranian ethnic group.

[Mir Javad]

Kurds are Iranians. There may be significant Kurdish populations located in Turkey and Iraq, but they are an Iranian ethnic group.

Yes Iranian linguistically speaking but in the modern definitions it really depends on what citizenship you hold and what modern-day country you or your parents were born in. According to those definitions some Kurds can be Turkish, Iranian, Iraqi or even Syrian.

[hzv]

you have to ask the tajiks and the afghans. i knew an afghan who said they were persians and was offended once when he and another asked me if it was so and i said "i dont know". in his mind it was obvious and that is really what matters. i think there is a point to be made here. if we consider "persian" as a foreign term for iranian then i would say that there are many among tajiks and afghans with iranian ethnicity just like many azaris outside iran and kurds outside iran who are of iranian ethnicity and the same could be said about many afghans, tajiks and even caucus peoples i would include many arabs as well who are of iranian ethnicity e.g. many arabs in u.a.e., kuwait and bahrain and iraq are of iranian ethnicity.

[Iranian-Patriot]

All these countries ending in Ostan were once part of Iran and are Iranian land. Tajik Ostan, Gherghiz Ostan, Afghan Ostan, arab Ostan, Pak Ostan etc. They were Ostans of Iran and part of our land. Some even to a larger extent of their current land like arab Ostan probably included Iraq, Syria, Kuwait, Oman, Yemen, UAE, Qatar and all the other small Persian Gulf countries and beyond.

[KC McElroy]

All these countries ending in Ostan were once part of Iran and are Iranian land. Tajik Ostan, Gherghiz Ostan, Afghan Ostan, arab Ostan, Pak Ostan etc. They were Ostans of Iran and part of our land. Some even to a larger extent of their current land like arab Ostan probably included Iraq, Syria, Kuwait, Oman, Yemen, UAE, Qatar and all the other small Persian Gulf countries and beyond.

How does this explain Engelestan, Lahestan or Majarestan?

[PersianLegion]

How does this explain Engelestan, Lahestan or Majarestan?

Also Takestan, Bostan,

Takestan = Tak Ostan... Grape Province...
Bostan = Bo Ostan means ... Smelly province

Turks call Yunan (Greece) as Yunanistan... does that make it another Iranian province?

[Iranian-Patriot]

How does this explain Engelestan, Lahestan or Majarestan?

Haha good point. I just came up with the thought that I wrote down, did not do much research around it. But it does makes sense. Give me some time to come back with an answer to your question

[RaginG Inferno]

Yes Iranian linguistically speaking but in the modern definitions it really depends on what citizenship you hold and what modern-day country you or your parents were born in. According to those definitions some Kurds can be Turkish, Iranian, Iraqi or even Syrian.

Don't confuse nationality with ethnicity. Kurds are genetically and linguistically Iranian. If I become a Kenyan citizen, that only means I am a Kenyan national, with Iranian ethnicity.

[sirvan]

Really no one is no longer Persian as Persia no longer exists. We are Iranian.

You can go ahead and define yourself as Persian but so can Afghans, Pakistanis, etc.

How ironic then that you are a member of Persian football dot com. Persia still exists mate, ever heard of the Iranian province Fars/Pars?

[persianpopinjay]

Don't confuse nationality with ethnicity. Kurds are genetically and linguistically Iranian. If I become a Kenyan citizen, that only means I am a Kenyan national, with Iranian ethnicity.

It's such a common (and irritating) mistake though.
When people come up to you and ask 'What's your nationality?' Australian....
'No, no *insert awkward laugh here* - I meant your nationality?'
Basically they're asking you to contradict what it says on the passport.