Queiroz's coaching crew appreciation

[OFFSIDE_1]

Khakpour set the team up to play attacking football.
We created 3 open goal chances, which we failed to take advantage of.
How is that Khakpour's fault our players couldn't perform a basic task(shoot between the goalposts).
If they had taken these golden opportunities and TM omid won 3-0, everyone would be like "Khakpour for TM"

well then, clearly his plan was not the right one. You can strategize all day long, but if you don't have the right pieces in place to execute on that strategy, your strategy is no good.
Our failure was not against Japan, eventhough we got demolished 3-0. Japan is a strong team. Our failure was against Qatar.

[Doctor DOOM]

So am I defending today's loss? No.
But to quickly bring up some highly irrelevant ''praise thread'' to take advantage of the situation to desperately purchase some credit to another coach is just silly and immature.

Lets not pretend as if every four years we have qualified for the Olympics and this time that we've failed we rain criticism on the coaching bench. We've had failures after failures, year after year. With vatani as well as foreign coaches. They all have failed. Hell, some even failed to even reach the final tournament or even go past the first group phase.
So lets pause and behave maturely.


The culprits are the system, shortcomings in infrastructure, the clubs, the fans, the federation, even the prevailing government that consistently promotes underperformers, incompetence and denial of merit and expertise in handing out posts.

[OFFSIDE_1]

^^"Also the other differences are we ought to consider the age group of players and expect accordingly. Which means we have the right to expect far more from established, well supported and experienced squad than a team of youngsters at the beginning of their careers and who have not played outside Iran's semi-pro league."

last time I checked, it was the U-23 team on both sides. In fact, lo and behold, even qatar brought their U-23 team. Who would have thought ??????

"We also have to consider the same inexperienced squad and inexperienced coach did deliver in their attacking game. It's just a combination of bad luck in both final touches by the lone striker, as well as ABSENCE OF 3-4 KEY DECISIVE PLAYERS like Azmoun, JB, Ezattolahi, ... that would have made the difference between a losing and a winning team."


well, perhaps if that dimwit coach, MK would have used 10% of his brain, he would realize that using an all attacking game, when you're missing Azmoun and JB, is maybe not the best plan. That is the difference between a worldclass coach, and a joke. A worldclass coach picks a strategy, and also picks the right players to execute on that strategy. A joker just makes a fool out of himself.

[sirvan]

Iranian coaches are mostly shit, amateurs. Khakpour seems like a gentleman, he is not a bad coach but maheli kohan's presence was not good for Khakpour.

I'm very happy that Quieroz is coaching TM.

[ehsan singapore]

i think ultimalty you can judge a coach by achievment, khakpour is good, but didnt take iran to olympics,

[kami_kakashi]

Khakpour set the team up to play attacking football.

We created 3 open goal chances, which we failed to take advantage of.

How is that Khakpour's fault our players couldn't perform a basic task(shoot between the goalposts).

If they had taken these golden opportunities and TM omid won 3-0, everyone would be like "Khakpour for TM"

Because in the same way that he set the team up to get three chances to score he left an opening to get scored on three times. Imbalanced tactics will definitely give you an edge on one end of the field but will never give you consistent wins.

There is a whole list of what Khakpour did wrong already written by fans all over these boards.

[Gucci10]

Queiroz got us to the World Cup. Khakpour & Mayeli Kohan didn't get us to the Olympics.

Thank you Mr. Koorosh the Great.

Its more like Keyroosh lool

[KC McElroy]

Koorosh > arogh.

[littlepersia17]

Because in the same way that he set the team up to get three chances to score he left an opening to get scored on three times. Imbalanced tactics will definitely give you an edge on one end of the field but will never give you consistent wins.

There is a whole list of what Khakpour did wrong already written by fans all over these boards.

I really don't want to start an argument. But in the 90 minutes of normal time our defence was barely troubled.

That's what happens when your are dominating the game, but you don't have a clinical goalscorer to take hold of the juicy chances.

[kami_kakashi]

I really don't want to start an argument. But in the 90 minutes of normal time our defence was barely troubled.

That's what happens when your are dominating the game, but you don't have a clinical goalscorer to take hold of the juicy chances.

There is no argument, I watched the game as well and to say they were never troubled is a lie. I can at least remember two clear cut saves by our keeper.

Japanese wingers penetrated our flanks at will. It was just a matter of time before they broke through.

[Gucci10]

I really don't want to start an argument. But in the 90 minutes of normal time our defence was barely troubled.

That's what happens when your are dominating the game, but you don't have a clinical goalscorer to take hold of the juicy chances.

Azmoun would of scored a hat trick...hayf, chera Iran badshansi all the time???

[Ando Teymourian]

Also the other differences are we ought to consider the age group of players and expect accordingly. Which means we have the right to expect far more from established, well supported and experienced squad than a team of youngsters at the beginning of their careers and who have not played outside Iran's semi-pro league.


We also have full right to expect far more from a coach that carries the ''famous international'' tag compared to a vatani one. Certainly beyond the quarterfinals of an Asian tourney. You can't have all the privileges of the tag, but none of the responsibilities & expectations.


We also have to consider the same inexperienced squad and inexperienced coach did deliver in their attacking game. It's just a combination of bad luck in both final touches by the lone striker, as well as ABSENCE OF 3-4 KEY DECISIVE PLAYERS like Azmoun, JB, Ezattolahi, ... that would have made the difference between a losing and a winning team.

Well our u23 were not playing any senior teams. They were playing teams within their own age group.

And what privileges does CQ get from his "fame" tag? Is it a privilege to have Mayeli Kohan come on TV every 2 weeks for the last 3 months leading up to the tournament, not to speak about his own team, but to bash the senior team coach?

Look, TM and TM Omid is all the same for me. I want to see them all win. However the difference in standards is actually quite opposite of what you claim, in my opinion. TM Omid is unlucky, but TM was so lucky to qualify to the WC (according to your posts back then). We mention the absence of Azmoun, JB (I don't mention Ezzat or Nourollahi because they were left out by the coach), but we don't mention that we qualified to the WC without Ashkan for the last 3 games, using our back up goalie, with basically a whole new defensive line, winning two away games in the final 3, in a group where match fixing quite clearly took place, etc....


In the end I think we should just be more fair to everyone across the board. Don't come on television and say what an easy group the senior TM has, and then come and lose to Qatar and squeak by China. I'm not upset with our players, I am upset with a group of individuals involved in this team (Mayeli and Kashani) who spent time they should have been using preparing for this tournament, instead speaking about CQ, Dan Gaspar, and senior TM. Khakpour was unfortunately caught between these fools, and since he is head coach everyone wants to automatically put the burden of our loss on him.

[Nariman]

First of all we have to understand why people are coming up with these comparisons and who is responsible for that. IMO some of these comparisons are indeed really nonsense to some point, we can’t directly compare both teams/coaching staff and their results as there are too many differences one has to consider...but still I am not surprised at this discussion, I knew it will eventually end like that:

All this has mainly to be blamed on MK who constantly created drama and attacked CQ with various BS accusations. This guy created so much hate that many were just waiting for the right moment to expose him. While he really deserves to get grilled publicly, and I personally love it, we still must put our emotions aside and not come up with these useless comparisons, blindly doing everything to let off our steam.

What we can compare though is the "atmosphere" and overall the way the staff deals with certain situation before, during and after a tournament - but do we really need to talk about that? It was clear cut from the beginning that there is a huge difference - CQ and his staff surpasses everything in Iran in terms of class, professionalism, experience and knowledge.