Rumor: Aria Hasegawa invited to TM?

[clipsport]

Losing his Japanese player status is not true, he can hold both passports since he needs them for his profession. This is part of Japanese law, I have a friend from Japan who can confirm.

He did not join right before the World Cup maybe because it is not an easy decision to make?

And Team Melli plays a friendly match against Uzbekistan on 8 June first.

I don't think you can have duel nationality in "footballing terms". J league allows 4 foreign players (minimum one from AFC). So if Hasegawa joins TM then he will become a foreign player as far as the J league is concerned.

And what do you mean it's not an easy decision? Hamin moonde yek japoniye daste dovomi baramoon taghche bala bezare.

Also you even said before that he had an average season last year and that he was better in his previous club. Do we really need an average player from a relegating J league team? and btw, you saying he was average means he was probably a little below average. lol. just kidding. well maybe just a little bit.

[Dreamer]

My point is that we should try talents from everywhere, not focus on someone purely because they play in a foreign league.

[Kiarash]

I don't think you can have duel nationality in "footballing terms". J league allows 4 foreign players (minimum one from AFC). So if Hasegawa joins TM then he will become a foreign player as far as the J league is concerned.

And what do you mean it's not an easy decision? Hamin moonde yek japoniye daste dovomi baramoon taghche bala bezare.

Also you even said before that he had an average season last year and that he was better in his previous club. Do we really need an average player from a relegating J league team? and btw, you saying he was average means he was probably a little below average. lol. just kidding. well maybe just a little bit.

I don't think they can suddenly exclude Aria from the team because he has Iranian passport, that would be insane and it does not work like that. He still is a Japanese player by law too.

your second statement is which is why I and many others have issues with you as a person.

[PersianLegion]

I bet Aria is not in the list.

[Kiarash]

My point is that we should try talents from everywhere, not focus on someone purely because they play in a foreign league.

Fact is that Aria has been on the radar since 2013. I don't see how inviting one player hurts the talents from IPL, especially when it's for a few friendlies / training camps.

[Dreamer]

Fact is that Aria has been on the radar since 2013. I don't see how inviting one player hurts the talents from IPL, especially when it's for a few friendlies / training camps.

I never said it'll hurt talents from IPL, I'm just saying that I wish IPL talents would be invited instead of him.

[ferdyf]

We have enough IRANIAN talented players, we don't need someone who got rejected by Japan to come and play for us!

sry but thats bs, hasegawa is better than every of our home based midfielders.Our strength lies in our teamwork but we need individually strong players like hasegawa dejagah ando and so on

[Afat11]

I never said it'll hurt talents from IPL, I'm just saying that I wish IPL talents would be invited instead of him.

I think this is most people's sentiment. I'd love for them to find the next Ali Karimi in IPL. Problem is, CQ has invited almost every single CAM in the league to multiple camps, and many have played.

Up to now, I have seen Rahmani, Sadeghian, Rafaei, and many others play. This isn't just to bash IPL, those players have shown class in the league. Problem is, they were weak when they put on the TM jersey, and none have shown anything to take Masoud's spot in the starting 11.

Despite all the Masoud bashing, I see him do more skills, and make more pass attempts than when a guy like Soroush was in the position. Soroush did okay, but was invisible for most of the game, which is bad for the playmaking position.

Let's just invite Hasegawa, Radjabali-Fardi, and the others. You never know, they could be bad for their clubs, but be great on TM. I remember at one time, a guy named Reza Ghoochannejhad was in the second division of Belgium, and nobody wanted to call him up for scoring goals in such a Mickey Mouse league.

Yeah, that guy scored 10 goals in 12 caps and basically took us to Brazil.

[Dreamer]

I think this is most people's sentiment. I'd love for them to find the next Ali Karimi in IPL. Problem is, CQ has invited almost every single CAM in the league to multiple camps, and many have played.
Up to now, I have seen Rahmani, Sadeghian, Rafaei, and many others play. This isn't just to bash IPL, those players have shown class in the league. Problem is, they were weak when they put on the TM jersey, and none have shown anything to take Masoud's spot in the starting 11.
Despite all the Masoud bashing, I see him do more skills, and make more pass attempts than when a guy like Soroush was in the position. Soroush did okay, but was invisible for most of the game, which is bad for the playmaking position.
Let's just invite Hasegawa, Radjabali-Fardi, and the others. You never know, they could be bad for their clubs, but be great on TM. I remember at one time, a guy named Reza Ghoochannejhad was in the second division of Belgium, and nobody wanted to call him up for scoring goals in such a Mickey Mouse league.
Yeah, that guy scored 10 goals in 12 caps and basically took us to Brazil.

Respect for not bashing me, and instead actually going towards the point I was making. That's really rare around here lol.

I disagree with you on CQ having invited almost every CAM. I don't think he has invited enough players and I don't think his scouting is set up properly. Let's look at the IPL table and purely statistics for a second. If we look at the top scorers (Iranians only), then we got:

Shabazzadeh
Sharifi
Ansari
Nariman-Jahan
Hasanzadeh
Khalatbari
Ebrahimi
Motahari
Rezaian
Taromi
Deli
Tabrizi.

Sharifi has played a few games, although not enough in my opinion. Jaber Ansari and Nariman-Jahan also haven't, and neither have Taromi, Deli and Tabrizi.

Thing is, these are only the top scorers, and it's completely ignoring other players that perform well // are very talented but don't score frequently.

Jahanbakhsh for example, scored only 2 goals in 2011-2012 and would technically have been 95th in the league tables.
A year later, he scored 8 goals and had 3 assists, making him 18th in the 12/13 season.

We've seen his rise and his talent shown everywhere, so the question for me is, where is the next Jahanbakhsh? Where is the next Pouraliganji? The next Azmoun?

Vahid Amiri has been having great displays in the TM shirt, had he not been invited, no one would know him around here. Same goes for Pouraliganji. I definitely wouldn't and I am here openly admitting that I barely see any IPL matches.

My point isn't that Jasur-Hasegawa shouldn't be invited. My issue is that any player we bring in from the outside is hailed as the next big thing, yet the next big thing is somewhere in our league not getting any attention or mentorship, and they might disappear into the massive void of IPL players that never get their chance and then dim. Think of Rajabzadeh, Borhani, Mobali, who have performed for years. Granted they got a shot at TM, but that's not what a national team should be about. It's not like we've had players better than them the entire time.

Sadeghian is one of these examples in my opinion. Had he had proper mentorship and development, this nonsense wouldn't have happened with him. There are many massive players out there with poor tempers and bad attitudes who changed. Schweinsteiger is one of those examples.

This whole story surrounding CQ's lack of scouting is true. If he wants to have control over the youth teams, then where is he right now? Why doesn't he scout more? It's a cheap shot to invite a player purely because they are raised in a different environment and not in Iran.

Each year we have a few players in Iran who perform superb, aren't invited and lose their faith in performing well because they don't see any rewards.

This issue is more complex than what I'm describing above and can be said in one post. It needs an entire thread. It's also nothing against Jasur-Hasegawa.

If we had a proper youth system and U-XX teams, then none of this would be the case.

Anyways, kudos and respect for not attacking me lol. I appreciate it!

[PersianLegion]

Here is Aria's Parents with a male Japanese fan

http://ameblo.jp/goodday-keita/image...760880634.html

weird google translate

" FC Tokyo No. 8, Hasegawa Aryan Ja Sur players of Papa. Always me in contact when meeting at the stadium as "Keita ~" to friendly. And it is mom's dad is this time introduced me to. So Hasegawa. By the way, Dad Jasuru. Papa Similarly, demeanor soft beautiful mom mom also friendly. So I did can be children, such as the Aryan-kun, and did was convinced.
.."

[perspolis#1]

I agree that Iran has enough talent in itself to dominate Asia but the sheer effort necessary to set up programs/mental health associations with the clubs, youth leagues, and positional coaching would need millions of investments that IFF wont give/doesnt have the money to.

CQ prefers legionnaires because they have positional knowledge, temperament training not found in Iran. There are more skillful, creative players in Iran but they either do not have the physical/teamwork requirements that CQ looks for in a player. If we had a different TM coach from Europe who played a different style, we would have a vastly different TM lineup.

[Afat11]

Respect for not bashing me, and instead actually going towards the point I was making. That's really rare around here lol.
I disagree with you on CQ having invited almost every CAM. I don't think he has invited enough players and I don't think his scouting is set up properly. Let's look at the IPL table and purely statistics for a second. If we look at the top scorers (Iranians only), then we got:
Shabazzadeh
Sharifi
Ansari
Nariman-Jahan
Hasanzadeh
Khalatbari
Ebrahimi
Motahari
Rezaian
Taromi
Deli
Tabrizi.
Sharifi has played a few games, although not enough in my opinion. Jaber Ansari and Nariman-Jahan also haven't, and neither have Taromi, Deli and Tabrizi.
Thing is, these are only the top scorers, and it's completely ignoring other players that perform well // are very talented but don't score frequently.
Jahanbakhsh for example, scored only 2 goals in 2011-2012 and would technically have been 95th in the league tables.
A year later, he scored 8 goals and had 3 assists, making him 18th in the 12/13 season.
We've seen his rise and his talent shown everywhere, so the question for me is, where is the next Jahanbakhsh? Where is the next Pouraliganji? The next Azmoun?
Vahid Amiri has been having great displays in the TM shirt, had he not been invited, no one would know him around here. Same goes for Pouraliganji. I definitely wouldn't and I am here openly admitting that I barely see any IPL matches.
My point isn't that Jasur-Hasegawa shouldn't be invited. My issue is that any player we bring in from the outside is hailed as the next big thing, yet the next big thing is somewhere in our league not getting any attention or mentorship, and they might disappear into the massive void of IPL players that never get their chance and then dim. Think of Rajabzadeh, Borhani, Mobali, who have performed for years. Granted they got a shot at TM, but that's not what a national team should be about. It's not like we've had players better than them the entire time.
Sadeghian is one of these examples in my opinion. Had he had proper mentorship and development, this nonsense wouldn't have happened with him. There are many massive players out there with poor tempers and bad attitudes who changed. Schweinsteiger is one of those examples.
This whole story surrounding CQ's lack of scouting is true. If he wants to have control over the youth teams, then where is he right now? Why doesn't he scout more? It's a cheap shot to invite a player purely because they are raised in a different environment and not in Iran.
Each year we have a few players in Iran who perform superb, aren't invited and lose their faith in performing well because they don't see any rewards.
This issue is more complex than what I'm describing above and can be said in one post. It needs an entire thread. It's also nothing against Jasur-Hasegawa.
If we had a proper youth system and U-XX teams, then none of this would be the case.
Anyways, kudos and respect for not attacking me lol. I appreciate it!

I agree with you Dreamer, and no problem for not attacking you. There is nothing to attack, we merely disagree, and you're definitely not a troll or anything to be attacked. You're merely stating your opinion, so I feel sorry for anyone who would bash you for it.

Your points all make sense, but at this point, you are calling for a grassroots change in our football. I am Iranian, and I love Iran, but we are seeing how much our league has stunted the development of some of our players. IPL isn't all bad, and to be honest, I think CQ has brought some great players from the league in over time. His scouting isn't horrible, because he brought in quality players like Pouraligangi, Ghafouri, Amiri, and a few other gems. To be honest, we just can't find a reliable CAM in the league. He has called up 5 of 10 possibilities, and you have to give him some credit for that. He tried Khalatbari in the position, he played Sadeghian, Rahmani, Sharifi, Rafaei, and even Omid Nazari. He never called up Omid Nazari, because he gave him a chance and he didn't deliver like Gucci or Dejagah.

CQ isn't leaving any potential player untapped, and I have a feeling that we will see new faces you have listed in the future TM lists. I remember the days when we had Nouri and Nouri running TM, with Gholami and Ansarifard up front, and we were crying for more potential players. Now we have potential players abroad coming in, and potential players at home who are flourishing.

To me, having a well full of talent to pull from is a blessing, I disagree with the notion that we should ignore one source for the other in order to make one feel better. Time is of the essence for calling a player like Hasegawa, his citizenship and whatnot make it difficult to call him up randomly in the middle of WCQ's. Same with the other foreign based players. A player like Tabrizi could be called up the day before our game against Guam, or India, and it wouldn't be a problem. Heck he could be called up the month before the WC if we make it. That's the only reason I think we should call these players up NOW, and not next month or next year. They will not be available at those times. Don't think of it as these guys are being preferred over the IPL players, they obviously aren't as Davari, Beitashour, and Nazari have proven. They just have to be called up at specific times, because we have friendlies so rarely that it's hard for us to just call these players up whenever we want. It has to be methodical.

[ایرانی]

never hurts to have a trial. the CAM position is pretty much vacant at the moment anyways.

[hzv]

Aria is iranian deal with it.

[Dubxl152]

This thread reminds me of the old Dejagha isn't Iranian threads...