The best football is played in Esfahan this year, Especially when you look how strong Zob Ahan was this year, probably the strongest Team atm. I think it's deserved that Sepahan wins league and (maybe) Zob Ahan Hazfi.
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Zob Ahan will win the cup, qualify for CL, both Esfahan teams will do great there, just to give bilakh to sorkh abi teams. Wait and see..Originally posted by AsOen5 View PostComment
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In Sepahan's case I'm not sure, they may have been great lastly in league but somehow I have the feeling that next year in AFC Cl they will fail againOriginally posted by Abtin View Post
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Well Perspolis is doing well in CL so I don't know what Bilakh you are talking about. Seeing that Sepahan was really impressive last CLOriginally posted by Abtin View Post
I respect Esfehani teams and hope they smash CL next year but lets not get over ourselves.Comment
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Who has the authority to cut all the communication in Tabriz? Have you thought about this? Taj? Sepahan Management? or perhaps Sepah and people who run Tractor?
It's probably Tractor's management or Sepah who started this rumor and cut the communication cause they knew their own people much better than everyone else but oh boy they were so wrong. They didn't want their fans to come to the stadium after a loss but they did it anyways.
I think Tractor's last game of the season must be played in another city to avoid such panics in future.Comment
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Tractor should learn from CQ and Team Melli when we were playing against South Korea. He didn't change his tactics through out the whole game and they weren't even paying attention to other game at all. They knew Qatar was leading 1-0 during the half time but that didn't stop them for sticking to their own game plan. And what happened? The last 20 minutes qatar conceded 5 goals and if CQ had done what Toni did we would have probably tied or lost the game.
Tractor's destiny was in their own hands but they lost it to Toni and LakComment
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I honestly thought they were celebrating for becoming a runner up cause I remember last year Ali Daie and PP players were also celebrating after they found out they became 2nd but not like this of course.Comment
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Interesting video and interview with fans.
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Something similar happened in 2001 when Schalke thought they became champion but Bayern scored a last minute goal and took away the title from them.
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Originally posted by AminGP View Post
Exactly Amin jaan. I was kind of thinking out loud with my earlier post but inadvertently did not address the title of this thread.
In that there was a conspiracy here (as in a group of people conspiring with a secret plan), there's no doubt in mind. The odds of radio, TV and cell phone signals being dropped simultaneously are practically zero, because they all use different technologies.
Cutting CCTV signals into the stadium or shutting down communication towers for cell phones would have been relatively easy and could have been done on short notice, although the only entity who would have had the power to do the latter would have been Sepah.
Scrambling AM/FM radio signals is not something that would have been done without prior planning. I'm not up to date on the TV signal transmission in Iran and perhaps some of our experts can rein in on this. But I assume TV hasn't gone all digital in Iran and UHF and VHF transmissions are still well and alive.
On that note, blocking such a large band of electromagnetic transmissions and on such a large scale can only point to a well thought of and carried out plan with only one entity having both the means and motives to implement it - that would again be Sepah of course.
In that sense, this is less of a conspiracy theory and more of a conspiracy fact. But the conspiracy was not by Sepahan or Naft or the league or IFF or the even the sports ministry - it runs much higher and deeper than that.
We can only speculate as to the reasons for it, but generally speaking rioting is much more likely to happen when a particular team loses in such a manner (recall what happened in Vancouver a few years back when they lost in the Stanley Cup final).
Given some of the separatist tendencies in Azerbaijan, the regime could very well have considered an ethnic or nationalistic awakening here with such large crowds a serious threat and been prepared for every contingency.
In case of victory, there were planned celebrations inside the stadium and this would have led to the crowd dispersing slowly and over time. But this was also a double edged sword, because the crowd was expecting a win.
Those expectations were raised further after Tractor went up 3-1 after which was the point of no return. Sentiments were running high and large crowds can be extremely uncontrollable and destructive when they're frustrated and angry.
So this plan was implemented as a means of crowd control and it looks like it worked well to some extent. It's hard to form a unifying force from the midst of confusion and chaos and those few minutes in which people poured onto the field or dispersed out of the stadium, essentially divided and conquered the fans.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-...b_7296806.html
"The website said Traktor Sazi had been playing defensive in the last 20 minutes of the match because the team's coach Tony Oliviera had been informed by the Islamic Republic of Iran's Football Federation (IRIFF) that the results of parallel matches meant that the Tabriz club would only need a draw to win the championship. "We were tricked," Mr. Oliveira told the official IRNA news agency."“It is easier to fool the people, than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark TwainComment
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I have proof for why that is false.Originally posted by PersianLegion
Pause at 2:12:53 Tiraxtur player speaking on his cell phone!
http://footballitarin.com/video_page.php?id=14705Comment
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You don't follow any other sports? This is a tradition! You always boo the opposing teams stars, even if that player was your captain the year before? In hockey, we have had star players who played 5 years in one team, and lead them to so much glory get booed the next year for signing or being traded to another team. Happens in baseball, hockey, basketball...I think the only sport it doesn't happen in is golf and tennis lolOriginally posted by Keano View Post
Bs...are Tractor fans are more likely to get rowdy and violent due to a loss or a win? If Tractor wins and Esfahan loses that is probably the safer scenario as there was only something like 14,000 fans at the stadium in Esfahan and it would take them longer to congregate than in Tabriz where 80,000 fans were waiting to explode.Originally posted by persian-eagle-13 View Post
Here is the screenshot...pretty obvious if you watch the 3 seconds of him that he is talking on his cellphone. So now what is the next excuse?Originally posted by Shah Abbas View Post
Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan Comment
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Well, according to Wiki, Tractor is owned by ITM which is a public company - not that IRGC don't have their hands in everything in Iran, but if it is a public company, I'm sure they'd still be more concerned about security than the value of their shares!Originally posted by Shah Abbas
At any rate, no one said Sepah wanted Tractor to lose, nor did they lose. Tractor players and technical cadre screwed up all their own. So, the conspiracy wasn't that Tractor should not win the league, it was that in the event they do no win the title, there is some sort of crowd control in place.
As I said in the earlier post, those last 4 or 5 minutes would have not made any difference to Tractor, because if they were going to score (rather than be scored on), they already had 30 minutes to do so.
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