TM list for the matches against Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan

[PSGman#19]

I can't understand CQ stubborness to take such old players that would never become the futur "stars" of TM and keep up snubbing youth promising players like K.Rezaei that some international selection would help him to go to Europe after his impressive U17 World Cup.

The U17 was already long ago, what a waste of time for not having let him a chance while Ansarifard or others got it.

I would like to add that it is more likely be guys like K.Rezaei or other youngs (not guarantied but still) that will help us against Japan, SK or Australia in the next round and then in the WC2018. Not Hadadifar, Heydari..

A friendly + an official match against weak opposition is the perfect chance to give them experience.

[babak_iran]

Lol, sorry Haddadifar on TM is really bad. I can remember 1 good moment of his from 10+ TM games I've seen from him. He did that nice long shot against Guinea. He then proceeded to cause 2 goals on us with horrific defense. He tried to tackle players and proceeded to fall to the floor like glass, as these strong Africans shrugged him off and got break aways and free shots at a weak reacting Daniel Davari who was also at fault, but seriously, Ando or Nekounam rarely make defensive mistakes like that. Haddadifar is terrible in many respects on TM, although he may be good on Zob Ahan.

I won't be a complete hater, and I will give him props on his long shots and his short passing. He is a decent playmaker CM, but his faults are worse than Shojaei IMO. He is by far the most frustrating player to watch on TM for me, due to how weak he is. I think because of his history with injury, he is afraid to go into tackles with the same aggression as Neko and Ando. Oh, and he's old. So yes, if he does start in these games, it won't make sense as he won't be a long term solution. I say we just throw Ezatollahi into the fire NOW. These teams aren't the most difficult and it's good for him to play alongside the TM players in lesser fixtures. We won't want to bring him in later when we are facing the final round of qualification, as the pressure then will be much higher than it is now. I think that's why CQ didn't bring Azmoun to the WC and opted for AC. Playing against lower Arab or Central Asian teams is a great starting point to build confidence in TM. Playing against bigger teams with bigger stakes may cause them to buckle under pressure.

Hadadifar knows how to pass the ball, and he has good runs on the ball. Its not fair to judge him in limited minutes and games in TM.People act like we have 20 Pirlos in our football. Ebrahimi and Hadadifar are the best options to replace Javad ATM with what we have. Do you really expect someone like Ezzatollahi with no experience to be thrown in the mix immediately?

[perspolis#1]

Lets get our wins right now and get the train going and then when we have a cushion pointwise we can start/call up the much younger ones against Guam/India in Azadi

[Camran khan]

both hadadifar and ebrahami are poor, most likely he will try to play ezatolahi,since he play in europe, even in atletico b team is better than iran league

Ajab, chand bar begam, he plays in the 4th division in the C-team.

Having Ebrahimi as replacement for Nekounam in the DM position is really a downgrade to be honest. Same applies for Haddadifar, god knows how they make the TM list again and again.

Unfortunately there is no one who can take Nekounam's place, but at the moment the best one we have is probably Omid Ebrahimi.

[persian_cheetah]

Hadadifar, Amiri, And beiranvand has been added to the list.

[Sly]

If Haddadifar plays in TM the way he played for Zob during the whole last season, I think not only he deserves to be called up but he'll be vital with Nekounam's absent!

I like the list of "javangaraii" and the new exciting players CQ has invited to TM. but what bothers me is, how can only 1 player from the second team of the IPL table (Tractor) be invited to TM??!!

[ehsan singapore]

Ajab, chand bar begam, he plays in the 4th division in the C-team.
Unfortunately there is no one who can take Nekounam's place, but at the moment the best one we have is probably Omid Ebrahimi.

maybe but i beleiver atletico c team is better than iran league

[ali alipour]

maybe but i beleiver atletico c team is better than iran league

I hope you're joking because if you're not that's just sad

[ehsan singapore]

I hope you're joking because if you're not that's just sad

i mean in the long run he will be in europe, and to be frank hadadifar and ebrahimi arent that good and we have to accept he is the next best thing after nekounam retired, we will have the same problem when ando retires

[Afat11]

Hadadifar knows how to pass the ball, and he has good runs on the ball. Its not fair to judge him in limited minutes and games in TM.People act like we have 20 Pirlos in our football. Ebrahimi and Hadadifar are the best options to replace Javad ATM with what we have. Do you really expect someone like Ezzatollahi with no experience to be thrown in the mix immediately?

If you reread my post, you will see that I said that I acknowledge Haddadifar's passing is good. That's why he is ever even in the TM conversation. I personally think that his minutes haven't been limited as he has played full 90 minutes for TM more than a few times. He's played for TM 17 times, more than many other players in the team, and I can see his play and make a personal observation. He's just not TM material, and old. The same complaints about Shojaei should be placed on Haddadifar. Neither are good enough or young enough to be on TM's midfield anymore. I'm not a basher, and won't say that they are trash or "statue" or other insults. I know they have their positives, but it's time to move on from them and Heydari at this point. All too old, and won't help us to start them against Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan.

When it comes to starting an 18 year old, please note that Julian Green played in the actual World Cup finals with the United States team and did very well for them at the age of 18 as a youth player in the Bundesliga. Many teams start players that look to be future gems at ages 18 and 19. It will do more good to give Ezatollahi bigger game experience against Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan than it will Haddadifar or Heydari.

I'm not against starting Ebrahimi, but again, Haddadifar is too old. You guys make it seem like these games in June are the World Cup finals.

We shouldn't take them lightly, which is why Teymourian, Hosseini, Montazeri, and other veterans are there, but honestly, Uzbekistan game is a friendly! We should use it to test players. I will understand if Ezatollahi plays that game and makes a mistake and we lose. That's the point of a friendly, to get young players confident. If he is absolutely terrible, then okay, start Ebrahimi or Haddadifar in his place against Turkmenistan. I don't think that will be the case though. He's 18, not 15, he will do well in TM at this point, even if he isn't the best player on the team. Haddadifar and Heydari gain nothing from playing at this point and it doesn't help our team's future at all to play them. They are and were good/decent players, but that's not important as we start the road to 2018. We need to build confidence now in our youngsters to not have fear or intimidation to put on the TM jersey. Doing it in 6 months or a year will be worse as our games may be more tense or difficult, and at that point, Ezatollahi may debut and flounder in TM if we put a lot of pressure on him if he is called up to AM's main team.

Everyone will say then, why is he not playing well for TM when he's on AM!! It will be because we wasted time acclimating and initiating him into TM now when we can and are playing Turkmenistan, Guam and India. Don't expect him to debut against those scrappy Arab teams or Korea or Japan and go insane. He will be more prepared for those games though if he gets familiar with the team now.

[babak_iran]

If you reread my post, you will see that I said that I acknowledge Haddadifar's passing is good. That's why he is ever even in the TM conversation. I personally think that his minutes haven't been limited as he has played full 90 minutes for TM more than a few times. He's played for TM 17 times, more than many other players in the team, and I can see his play and make a personal observation. He's just not TM material, and old. The same complaints about Shojaei should be placed on Haddadifar. Neither are good enough or young enough to be on TM's midfield anymore. I'm not a basher, and won't say that they are trash or "statue" or other insults. I know they have their positives, but it's time to move on from them and Heydari at this point. All too old, and won't help us to start them against Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan.

When it comes to starting an 18 year old, please note that Julian Green played in the actual World Cup finals with the United States team and did very well for them at the age of 18 as a youth player in the Bundesliga. Many teams start players that look to be future gems at ages 18 and 19. It will do more good to give Ezatollahi bigger game experience against Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan than it will Haddadifar or Heydari.

I'm not against starting Ebrahimi, but again, Haddadifar is too old. You guys make it seem like these games in June are the World Cup finals.

We shouldn't take them lightly, which is why Teymourian, Hosseini, Montazeri, and other veterans are there, but honestly, Uzbekistan game is a friendly! We should use it to test players. I will understand if Ezatollahi plays that game and makes a mistake and we lose. That's the point of a friendly, to get young players confident. If he is absolutely terrible, then okay, start Ebrahimi or Haddadifar in his place against Turkmenistan. I don't think that will be the case though. He's 18, not 15, he will do well in TM at this point, even if he isn't the best player on the team. Haddadifar and Heydari gain nothing from playing at this point and it doesn't help our team's future at all to play them. They are and were good/decent players, but that's not important as we start the road to 2018. We need to build confidence now in our youngsters to not have fear or intimidation to put on the TM jersey. Doing it in 6 months or a year will be worse as our games may be more tense or difficult, and at that point, Ezatollahi may debut and flounder in TM if we put a lot of pressure on him if he is called up to AM's main team.

Everyone will say then, why is he not playing well for TM when he's on AM!! It will be because we wasted time acclimating and initiating him into TM now when we can and are playing Turkmenistan, Guam and India. Don't expect him to debut against those scrappy Arab teams or Korea or Japan and go insane. He will be more prepared for those games though if he gets familiar with the team now.

Yes but this is Iran we are talking about. Like i said we dont have better replacements then Ebrahimi and Hadadifar ATM. Ezzatollahi is young and will get his chance sooner or later. The more you rush him into the squad, the worst it becomes. I understand what you say regarding Hadadifars age,but he is 31. Give him another chance, hes been clinical all season long for Zobahan. If he doesn't come through then CQ will know to cross him off like last time, after all he saw something in Hadadifar that he invited him. Masoud Shojaei has ..... caps for team team melli and he still sucks.Its just a shame not to see more players invited from Zobahan and Naft.

[Bi-honar]

I really don't like seeing 30+ year olds replacing other 30+ yeard olds at this point where we're facing weak opponents and have the perfect opportunity to try new, younger players.

A TM call-up and playing in official matches can be a HUGE confidence boost for any player. Just look at Amiri's improvement since the Asian Cup. Or look at PAG's career taking off after just a few TM games.

Why are we taking that opportunity away from younger players and giving it to people who are not only at the end of their careers, but have already had that opportunity in TM and didn't shine?

[Kiarash]

I really don't like seeing 30+ year olds replacing other 30+ yeard olds at this point where we're facing weak opponents and have the perfect opportunity to try new, younger players.

A TM call-up and playing in official matches can be a HUGE confidence boost for any player. Just look at Amiri's improvement since the Asian Cup. Or look at PAG's career taking off after just a few TM games.

Why are we taking that opportunity away from younger players and giving it to people who are not only at the end of their careers, but have already had that opportunity in TM and didn't shine?

I agree.

With the exception of Teymourian we really need to drop the other 30+ players.

It's strange to see Haddadifar, Heydari, Montazeri, Shojaei and Beikzadeh in the list while I can't think of them playing any role in the FIFA 2018 World Cup.

Waste of spots.

[Ari]

Guys u can't change a team from one day to next. Especially a team that is quite effective. For the likes of Haddadifar, Shojaei & Heydari. Be sure that non of them (maybe maybe maybe Shojaei) won't play an essential role in future. BUT! Queiroz knows them & u always need an assurance.

[Ali.Karimi79]

^ No one asked for a team change from one day to the next. But Haddadifar, Heyfuckingdari and Shojae?! Really?
I agree with Kiarash and Bi-Honar.
What is the purpose of friendlies when you line up 30+ years players who definately won't play a role in the next world cup?
To get result from ...(with all given respect) UZEBKISTAN and TURKEMINSTAN???!

Most people in the west don't even know that a country like Turkeminstan even exist. I shit you not.