AFC U-16 CHAMPIONSHIP

[Tehranto]

Iraq's Overage History

More evidence of Iraq's overage history. Look at this. They made the 2013 U17 World Cup, like we did. Iran sent the exact same squad from their qualification in 2012 to the World Cup U17 2013.

Iraq on the other hand, had sent just 7 (SEVEN) players from the team that they used in AFC Championship 2012 U16 to the World Cup u17. It's like they sent a whole new team to UAE to compete. There were others who were included in both like Alaa Mhawi who had their passports changed (posted the pic a few pages ago of his case). Why such a drastic, revolutionary change in the squad? Cause FIFA is more stringent in their testing compared to the joke that is the AFC.
The image shows this (click to view).

[Tehranto]

It's going to be a physical challenge for our boys vs. the over-aged Iraqi team. But kudos to them if they can pull it off. They did against North Korea.

[ShirFarhad]

That picture is from 4 years ago.

No, it's not. The picture IS from his tournament. Nr 7 is Mohammed Dawood that scored three goals against Japan.

There was evidence given 3 posts above yours ... and a plethora of other ones regarding Iraq's other age groups in other threads.

But I guess people see what they want to see. And the eye-test is the most important and persuasive factual component, especially on a grainy image. I saw some of their game vs. Japan. They don't even pass the eye test.

How is that exactly evidence? The first picture is not related to any player in this tournament. The second picture shows a team where I see two players in the second row which to me look like 13/14 year olds (top right and second from left).

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Mohammed Dawood was 19/20 years old. But to me all other players look U17 and it's not shocking to see 1 out of 11 people to look older than his own age. So as long as there is no clear evidence that he is actually older than what he's claiming to be, I believe we should focus on our game and beat the shit out of them..

[Tehranto]

No, it's not. The picture IS from his tournament. Nr 7 is Mohammed Dawood that scored three goals against Japan.

How is that exactly evidence? The first picture is not related to any player in this tournament. The second picture shows a team where I see two players in the second row which to me look like 13/14 year olds (top right and second from left).

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Mohammed Dawood was 19/20 years old. But to me all other players look U17 and it's not shocking to see 1 out of 11 people to look older than his own age. So as long as there is no clear evidence that he is actually older than what he's claiming to be, I believe we should focus on our game and beat the shit out of them..

No, but it highlights systemic fraud. Recently, they changed the birth place of Brwa Nouri from Iran to Iraq by giving up a made-up Iraqi passport. Everyone knows he's an Iraqi Kurd born in Iran, so why change it? They wanted to speed up getting approved for his FIFA card. If they can do this for multiple players and openly have, why can't they do it for others? Iraqi FA is under pressure because their senior team constantly strike out. They over-compensate and cheat on junior teams to make up the difference and temporarily silence dissent and disapproval.

The image I showed you was of their Under-19 team! How is an alleged 13 year old on an under-19 team. Come on man, it's just basic common-sense.

Look at the post above yours. I just showed you abnormal behavior that suggests age-cheating.

We are outlining systemic fraudulent behaviour and how it's bringing the game into disrepute. It's a big deal.

See more here:
https://iraqsport.wordpress.com/2013...qi-youth-team/

[ShirFarhad]

Iraq's Overage History
More evidence of Iraq's overage history. Look at this. They made the 2013 U17 World Cup, like we did. Iran sent the exact same squad from their qualification in 2012 to the World Cup U17 2013.
Iraq on the other hand, had sent just 7 (SEVEN) players from the team that they used in AFC Championship 2012 U16 to the World Cup u17. It's like they sent a whole new team to UAE to compete. There were others who were included in both like Alaa Mhawi who had their passports changed (posted the pic a few pages ago of his case). Why such a drastic, revolutionary change in the squad? Cause FIFA is more stringent in their testing compared to the joke that is the AFC.
The image shows this (click to view).

Did you actually double check the picture you posted there? It's not seven, but fifteen (15) players that took part in both tournaments. That means they only made six changes in their squad.

And I just check to see how many changes we made because I couldn't believe we sent the same squad. We actually made 12 changes in our squad. You can compare the two squads we sent to both tournaments here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_F...rld_Cup_squads vs http://joeys.footballaustralia.com.a...6-championship.

[ShirFarhad]

No, but it highlights systemic fraud. Recently, they changed the birth place of Brwa Nouri from Iran to Iraq by giving up a made-up Iraqi passport. Everyone knows he's an Iraqi Kurd born in Iran, so why change it? They wanted to speed up getting approved for his FIFA card. If they can do this for multiple players and openly have, why can't they do it for others? Iraqi FA is under pressure because their senior team constantly strike out. They over-compensate and cheat on junior teams to make up the difference and temporarily silence dissent and disapproval.
The image I showed you was of their Under-19 team! How is an alleged 13 year old on an under-19 team. Come on man, it's just basic common-sense.
Look at the post above yours. I just showed you abnormal behavior that suggests age-cheating.
We are outlining systemic fraudulent behaviour and how it's bringing the game into disrepute. It's a big deal.
See more here:
https://iraqsport.wordpress.com/2013...qi-youth-team/

About Brwa Nouri, I agree with you and I believe they should be punished heavily for that.

However, I'm personally not in favour of assumptions and that's why I believe that we should accept and trust that their players are indeed U17 unless there is clear evidence that they are not U17.

I cannot find the age of this Mohammed Dawood guy so I'm curious where you hear about his age. In order to participate in the AFC U16 tournament, a player has to be born after 01-01-2000. So chances could be that he is actually 16 and half years old. If that's the case, then he could be 15 and not 13 on that picture, if the picture is taken at the end of the 2014/2015 season. And it's not strange for a 15 year old to take part of a U19 team.

[Tehranto]

I apologize for the huge oversight of the comparisons I made. The numbers didn't match, their names were shortened etc. my bad.

About Brwa Nouri, I agree with you and I believe they should be punished heavily for that.

However, I'm personally not in favour of assumptions and that's why I believe that we should accept and trust that their players are indeed U17 unless there is clear evidence that they are not U17.

I cannot find the age of this Mohammed Dawood guy so I'm curious where you hear about his age. In order to participate in the AFC U16 tournament, a player has to be born after 01-01-2000. So chances could be that he is actually 16 and half years old. If that's the case, then he could be 15 and not 13 on that picture, if the picture is taken at the end of the 2014/2015 season. And it's not strange for a 15 year old to take part of a U19 team.

Again, Iraq has been responsible for underage fraudulent activities before, please read the article that the Iraqi journalist wrote that I posted. I find it hard to believe that they've stopped, look at some examples below:

To anyone who follows Iraqi football closely, it's quite obvious that at the youth levels there is a big problem with age fraud. Players lower their ages by several years in order to play at youth tournaments which is a big reason why we always do so well at those levels.

We've got Mohammed Hameed the goalkeeper of our U-20 and U-23 teams whose supposedly 21 but if you look at his career, this would mean that he was the starting keeper for Ramadi F.C (a professional club) when he was 13 or 14 which is ridiculous.

Then there's Saef Salman, our starting CM for the U20 and U23 teams who was a U-17 greco-roman wrestling champion in 2004 which would mean he's 25 or 26 by now.

We've got Jawad Kadhum of our U-20 team who, if his current age and DOB is correct, was born after his father died which is nonsensical.

Here's the case of Bashar Rasen the "17 year old talent", who changed his DOB from 1993 to 1996 in order to play for the youth teams.

http://forum.kooora.com/f.aspx?t=34785879

It's funny with bashar rasen since he's always said that anyone who questions the ages of Iraqi players is "not an Iraqi".

We'll never become a serious footballing nation with such a massive issue like this.

Alaa Ali Mahawi.
Alaa is a fullback who had his 15 minutes of fame when he pocketed Neymar in the olympics, he was trending worldwide, Brazilians were tweeting about him, players and fans where quick to praise him and label him as such a great prospect at only 20 years old. He was present in the U17 WC as a 17 year old, except that he was 19 , and he’s 22.

Alaa was banned from travelling with the rest of the squad to Malaysia because his passport didn't match the details of the database This is his passport Here he is on the database (4th name) born in 1994 The ministry of youth requested a new passport, which he will get , just like Ali Adnan and many others and nothing will ever be done.

Finally a personal favourite , Age fraud. As of writing this I’m watching Iraq beat Japan on their way to the final of the U16 Asian Cup , the same Japan that we haven't beat since 1981 on senior level. So how does a Japanese team with an average age of about 27 not lose to an Iraqi team of the same average yet to lose them when they’re 16 vs 16 ? simply because they’re not 16 , hell some can't even play under 19 football, and it runs deep. Mohanad Abdul Raheem won the U23 Asian player of the year despite him changing his name so they wouldn't find out he's older, Ali Adnan is not 23 , Dhurgham is fake , i would say 90% of Iraqi internationals who play in Iraq have forged their ag. Now I know you’re all dying for evidence . I can give you for most if i really wanted to but it would take too much time so i’ll stick with one for now.

In the words of one of anti-corruption leaders of Iraq ...

One of Iraq’s anti-corruption leaders sat in his office, waving his hands in exasperation. “There is no solution,” he said. “Everybody is corrupt, from the top of society to the bottom. Everyone. Including me.”

Coming at the start of a conversation about Iraq’s ailing governance, and what was being done to turn things around, Mishan al-Jabouri’s admission was jarring. “At least I am honest about it,” he shrugged. “I was offered $5m by someone to stop investigating him. I took it, and continued prosecuting him anyway.”

[PEJ]

[QUOTE=ShirFarhad;2413261]No, it's not. The picture IS from his tournament. Nr 7 is Mohammed Dawood that scored three goals against Japan.



Did I really have to explain that joke to you? The irony!

[Tehranto]

Age fraud is so prevalent that it's impacting Iraq senior team's current WCQ. Alaa Mahawi had a forged date on his passport and he will miss the next two games for Iraq. His date of birth didn't in his passport didn't match the one in his National ID. He played in their U16 team in 2012, U17 in World Cup 2013.



Yet nothing is going on ...

[Tehranto]

Potentially our future CB ... he has all the tools.

Taha Shariati

[Keano]

Potentially our future CB ... he has all the tools.
Taha Shariati

He looks legitimately Danish!

He is indeed a great prospect, hope to see him prosper and eventually move to a decent European club.

[littlepersia17]

He looks legitimately Danish!

He is indeed a great prospect, hope to see him prosper and eventually move to a decent European club.

Yeah he has got all the right ingredients to play in England!

- Name is easy to pronounce

-wouldn't look out of place in Dublin

-Looks tall, and like a no nonsense defender (the British love that)

- He has the potential to be a very solid centre back ( every team needs one in the EPL)

[pres80]

I've watched all of our matches so far and Taha, our captain, No. 17, No.3 and No.21 have been stand outs. But Taha has by far seemed to be our best player. He makes it look easy man. He had a couple of moments when he completely destroyed the Korean attackers. His composure is unbelievable for an U16 player.

[ShirFarhad]

I apologize for the huge oversight of the comparisons I made. The numbers didn't match, their names were shortened etc. my bad.



Again, Iraq has been responsible for underage fraudulent activities before, please read the article that the Iraqi journalist wrote that I posted. I find it hard to believe that they've stopped, look at some examples below:






In the words of one of anti-corruption leaders of Iraq ...

No worries bro, it's not a big deal.

Yeah, based on that it would make sense if they have cheated again. I'm just basing my opinion on the pictures and videos I have seen from their current team.

Anyways, I'm confident we can beat them whether they have cheated or not. If they did cheat, it will be their loss as they won't gain anything from it in future.

[Nader25]

Joorabasho berim ba parchame amrika hehe