AFC U-19 CHAMPIONSHIP

[AIrani]

Pos.	Team	GP	Pts	W	D	L	GF	GA	+/-	Form	H2H
1	Japan U19	2	4	1	1	0	3	0	3
2	Qatar U19	2	4	1	1	0	2	1	1
3	Iran U19	2	2	0	2	0	1	1	0
4	Yemen U19	2	0	0	0	2	0	4	-4

Qatar was unable to score more than one , All iran has to do is to win by more than one goal against hopeless Yemen.
doable.
Iran most likely will advance.

I agree.

[St_Mark]

Iran will advance and play either australia or Uzbekistan.

[St_Mark]

9.3. The ranking in each group shall be determined in descending order asfollows:


9.3.1. higher number of points obtained in all group Matches;
9.3.2. if two (2) or more Participating Teams are equal on points, the following criteria are applied to determine the ranking (in descending order):Head-to-Head criteria
9.3.2.1. higher number of points obtained in the group Matches played among the Participating Teams in question;
9.3.2.2. superior goal difference from the group Matches played among the Participating Teams in question;
9.3.2.3. higher number of goals scored in the group Matches played among the Participating Teams in question;
9.3.2.4. higher number of goals scored away from home in the group Matches played between the Participating Teams in question (only applicable for the Qualifiers)Tiebreaker
9.3.2.5. if, after having applied the Head-to-Head criteria, two (2)or more Participating Teams still have an equal ranking,the Head-to-Head criteria shall be reapplied exclusively tothe Matches between the Participating Teams in question to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, the Group Results criteria shalla pply;Group Results criteria
9.3.2.6. superior goal difference from all group Matches played;
9.3.2.7. higher number of goals scored from all group Matches played;
9.3.2.8. Penalty Kicks if only the two (2) Participating Teams are both on the Field of Play;
9.3.2.9. the lower score calculated according to the number ofyellow and red cards received in group Matches (Appendix1 of the Manual); or
9.3.2.10. the drawing of lots

[Ali Doust]

Baba all we have to do is make sure we beat Yemen thats it. Just win the match.

[St_Mark]

Baba all we have to do is make sure we beat Yemen thats it. Just win the match.

Yes , but last time they beat Iran by one goal.

[Ali Doust]

Yes , but last time they beat Iran by one goal.

I know but its not rocket science. They just need to put all their efforts in walking away with the win.

[peiman92]

1. If qatar- japan ends 2-2 we are out.
2. If qatar - japan ends 1-1 qatar will win the group and we have to beat yemen by 4 goals.
3. If qatar japan ends 0-0 japan will be out if we beat yemen.

[St_Mark]

If Japan Tie Qatar
Japan 5 P , +3 GD
Qatar 5p , +1 GD

Iran need to win by 2 goals ==> 5p , +2GD

If Japan lose to Qatar
Japan 4 P , +( 3 -x )GD
Qatar 5p , +(1+x) GD

Iran need to win by 1 goals ==> 5p , +1GD


If Japan beat Qatar
Japan 5 P , +(3 +X )GD
Qatar 4p , +(1-X) GD

Iran need to win by goals ==> 5p , +XGD

[Tehranto]

As long as Iran wins by two goals, we are through.

The rest, St. Mark says.

[Ata]

wtf is happening??!!?! why is so many here loosing there hopes, we just need to win against a crappy team thats lost both its games... or am I wrong?

[peiman92]

If Japan Tie Qatar
Japan 5 P , +3 GD
Qatar 5p , +1 GD

Iran need to win by 2 goals ==> 5p , +2GD

If Japan lose to Qatar
Japan 4 P , +( 3 -x )GD
Qatar 5p , +(1+x) GD

Iran need to win by 1 goals ==> 5p , +1GD


If Japan beat Qatar
Japan 5 P , +(3 +X )GD
Qatar 4p , +(1-X) GD

Iran need to win by goals ==> 5p , +XGD

No you are wrong.

If Qatar,Japan and Iran all end on 5 points the game against Yemen will not count. ( If teams are equal on points 9.3.2.1. higher number of points obtained in the group Matches played among the Participating Teams in question).

This means all 3 teams will have 2 points and ( 9.3.2.2. superior goal difference from the group Matches played among the Participating Teams in question) which means:

If Qatar-Japan ends 2-2. 1. Qatar (3-3) 2. Japan ( 2-2) 3. Iran (1-1)

If Qatar-Japan ends 1-1. 1. Qatar( 2-2) 2. Iran and Japan both will have ( 1-1 ) and NOW the game vs Yemen will count. As Japan won 3-0 we have to better that scoreline.

If Qatar-Japan ends 0-0. 1. Qatar or Iran( both will have 1-1 and we have to beat Yemen by more than 1 goal to top the group). 3. Japan will be out.

This is 100% right i promise you. In Euro 2004 Italy was eliminated on this rule as Sweden and Denmark played out a 2-2 draw that took both to the quarterfinals. It wouldn't have mattered even if Italy would have scored 80 goals against Bulgaria.

[Tehranto]

No you are wrong.

If Qatar,Japan and Iran all end on 5 points the game against Yemen will not count. ( If teams are equal on points 9.3.2.1. higher number of points obtained in the group Matches played among the Participating Teams in question).

This means all 3 teams will have 2 points and ( 9.3.2.2. superior goal difference from the group Matches played among the Participating Teams in question) which means:

If Qatar-Japan ends 2-2. 1. Qatar (3-3) 2. Japan ( 2-2) 3. Iran (1-1)

If Qatar-Japan ends 1-1. 1. Qatar( 2-2) 2. Iran and Japan both will have ( 1-1 ) and NOW the game vs Yemen will count. As Japan won 3-0 we have to better that scoreline.

If Qatar-Japan ends 0-0. 1. Qatar or Iran( both will have 1-1 and we have to beat Yemen by more than 1 goal to top the group). 3. Japan will be out.

This is 100% right i promise you. In Euro 2004 Italy was eliminated on this rule as Sweden and Denmark played out a 2-2 draw that took both to the quarterfinals. It wouldn't have mattered even if Italy would have scored 80 goals against Bulgaria.

You're wrong. It's higher (1) number of points THEN (2) GD. If we win by two, we have a +2 goal difference. That means either:

(a) Japan wins (they have 7, we have 5 and Qatar has 4 pts) - Japan and Iran go through
(b) Qatar wins (they have 7 pts, we have 5 pts and Japan has 3 points) - Qatar and Iran go through
(c) they tie (means we all have 5 points - but because we are through because we have a GD +2), Japan has GD +3 and we go through with Japan and us.

We have to win by 2 to go through - regardless of other result. It's simple.

[NFL]

Japan will beat Qatar.

[peiman92]

You're wrong. It's higher (1) number of points THEN (2) GD. If we win by two, we have a +2 goal difference. That means either:

(a) Japan wins (they have 7, we have 5 and Qatar has 4 pts) - Japan and Iran go through
(b) Qatar wins (they have 7 pts, we have 5 pts and Japan has 3 points) - Qatar and Iran go through
(c) they tie (means we all have 5 points - but because we are through because we have a GD +2), Japan has GD +3 and we go through with Japan and us.

We have to win by 2 to go through - regardless of other result. It's simple.

No, i'm right. higher number of points obtained in the group Matches played among the Participating Teams in question . Which means if Iran, Japan and Qatar end on 5 point They are the participating teams and the result against yemen will only count if the teams have the same GD in their internal games. Hard to explain but i hope you understand.

[peiman92]

From Euro 2004:

"Three teams – Italy, Denmark and Sweden – all finished with five points, with each team having defeated Bulgaria but drawn their two other games. As all results between the three teams in question were draws, both the points won in these games and the goal difference accrued in these games still left the teams undivided. The decisive tiebreaker was therefore the goals scored during the games between one another: Italy having scored the fewest goals of the three teams were therefore eliminated."

Denmark 0–0 Italy
Italy 1–1 Sweden
Denmark 2–2 Sweden
Here you guys can see the result against Bulgaria was not included.
Sweden finished first (3-3)
Denmark finished second ( 2-2)
Italy finished third (1-1)