FIFA World Cup 2018 Qualifier: Turkmenistan - Iran; Sport Toplumy,Dasoguz (16/6/2015)

[Persian-Pride87]

I am very disappointed with the results. The creativity and the finishing touch was extremely poor this match. I don't know what it is but we always tend to struggle against this minnow of a team. With javad retiring and the backbone of our team getting old, I am apprehensive about the future of TM. I hope our promising young talents live up to their potentials. Its the first game so I don't think the sky is falling and we should easily top the group but I feel jaded after what happened in the Asian cup and hoped our first real competitive game would start with a nice win.

[PersianLegion]

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(by Karimi 8) I would like to see:

-----------------------Haghighi---------------------------
--Ghafouri-----Montazeri--Kanani------Lord Hashem--
-------------Ando-------------Pouraliganji---------------
--Taremi-------------Hajsafi-------------------Amiri-----
----------------------Azmoun----------------------------

Subs:
*Reza => Azmoun 65th
*Torabi => Taremi 65th
*Sharifi => Amiri 80th
**************************************

I agree with this line up but only this should change

* Torabi => Taremi 65th

And please do not let Khosro play in this match. Let the youngers play.

I quote myself to show I and some of our experienced dudes were right

[YeCheesi Tala]

To all those that say Ali Daie accomplishment is nothing because all good strikers can score against weak asian teams. Please reassess your viewpoint.

[arasradio]

Wait a minute....we drew a team that lost to GUAM ???
LOL
This is a disaster.

Let me rephrase this a bit....

yes we lost to a team that for first time ever lost to Guam. That was called a shocking upset on the first day of the tournament. As the loss of Bahrain against Phillipines! It is almost guaranteed that if TKM plays GUAM 100 times more, they will win 99 times...

BUT REPHRASING YOUR COMMENT A BIT

Yes. We again lost to a team that for some strange reason have not been able to defeat in 5 matches played with them! It was even mentioned on FIFA.COM one day before the match that the best team of Asia, Iran are undisputable favorite for this match, however the fact of Iran never winning against team, makes things hard for Team Melli ...

So, hmmmmm Not a big shocker. Actually a bit of improvement lol as we usually lose against this team on their field... I hope we can break the deadlock in Tehran. We need supporters for that match. I think a great game plan was to protect the first goal that came easy and add on it by counter attack. however CQ wanted to use this game as a test of his forwards.... and the pitch, grass-rolling, the dead lock or jinx and also our own players unacurracy participated in this draw. Now it is not the end of the world. We should keep the same players and get them some more friendlies to create more harmony ... We may not be able to top the group (very little chance as I think we still have a good chance of topping the group) but definitley go through as one of the 4 bests of Asia

[Team Melli Fan]

ridim bacheha. tori nist, belakhare miresim

[Bi-honar]

Would someone please let us know how the best 4 teams are applied here as one of the groups featuring Iraq has 4 teams!

Results against the bottom placed teams in each group are going to get dropped from the comparison of the 2nd placed teams.

It's obviously way too early to call things, but for the time being, with India in last place and looking like they're going to be struggling all the way through, the 2nd placed team's results against Turkmenistan become more relevant and against India less relevant.

[PayamPersia]

To all those that say Ali Daie accomplishment is nothing because all good strikers can score against weak asian teams. Please reassess your viewpoint.

Firstofall Daei is an iranian football legend. No doubt about that. His Goals were amazing and very important.
But the point is that the gap between the Team gets closer and closer. Have just a look at the World Cup, Coppa America
or even to the WCQ in Asia right know!
There is no team in Asia that will be destroy 19-0 in contrast to Daei-Times. Football is an international popular sports and everyone has abilities to
learn tactics etc.

The Game against Turkmenistan was not easy. They have nothing to loose and no pressure because no one expect something from them in contrast to TM.
They have an horrible ground to play football and have full support of their fans.
Not to forget that we build up an new young team and missed key players like Seyed Jalal, Dejagah. And the most important point is, that the Turkmens have some Quality too.
All in all we should be patient and wait for the other games. Its too early to judghe. Its just one bad Game!

[PersianLegion]

Firstofall Daei is an iranian football legend. No doubt about that. His Goals were amazing and very important.
But the point is that the gap between the Team gets closer and closer. Have just a look at the World Cup, Coppa America
or even to the WCQ in Asia right know!
There is no team in Asia that will be destroy 19-0 in contrast to Daei-Times. Football is an international popular sports and everyone has abilities to
learn tactics etc.

The Game against Turkmenistan was not easy. They have nothing to loose and no pressure because no one expect something from them in contrast to TM.
They have an horrible ground to play football and have full support of their fans.
Not to forget that we build up an new young team and missed key players like Seyed Jalal, Dejagah. And the most important point is, that the Turkmens have some Quality too.
All in all we should be patient and wait for the other games. Its too early to judghe. Its just one bad Game!

Last 4 match result by Turkmenistan. The results talk about the quality. We are not talking about 1993 any more their most recent results can show us where they are standing.
2014
Turkmenistan 1-3 Afghanistan
Turkmenistan 0-2 Philippines
2015
Turkmenistan 0-1 Guam
Turkmenistan 1-1 Iran

Can you follow the pattern? Considering the level of their football Iran should be as the same level or lower than Afghanistan, Philippines, and Guam. There is really no excuse for this result.


For more detail see the results of the rest who competed with Turkmenistan
Guam case
2014
Guam 2-2 Aruba (a tiny island in South America)
Guam 0-2 Aruba
Guam 0-0 Macau
Guam 2-0 Mongolia (literary weakest Asian team)
Guam 2-1 Taiwan
Guam 1-5 North Korea
Guam 0-0 Hong Kong
2015
Guam 1-0 Turkmenistan
Guam 2-1 India

Afghanistan case

2014
Afghanistan 0-0 Kyrgyzstan
Afghanistan 0-1 Tajikistan
Afghanistan 1-0 Kyrgyzstan
Afghanistan 2-3 Kuwait
Afghanistan 0-0 Philippines
Afghanistan 3-1 Turkmenistan
Afghanistan 0-0 Laos
Palestine 2-0 Afghanistan
Afghanistan 1-1 (7-8) Maldives
2015
Afghanistan 1-2 Pakistan
Afghanistan 2-0 Laos
Afghanistan 1-1 Bangladesh
Afghanistan 0-6 Syria
Afghanistan 1-0 Laos

Philippines case
2014
http://www.fifa.com/world-match-cent...014/index.html
2015
http://www.fifa.com/world-match-cent...hes/index.html

And now compare the result with Iran
2014
http://www.fifa.com/world-match-cent...014/index.html
2015
http://www.fifa.com/world-match-cent...hes/index.html

We understand team is in transition but it should not be in disaster. We are top Asian team in tier one level a transition may bring us down to tier 2 in some cases not to tier 4 or 5. I guess this case is crystal clear and no more excuses should be said regarding this. The match against Turkmenistan was a failure simple as that.

[PayamPersia]

Last 4 match result by Turkmenistan. The results talk about the quality. We are not talking about 1993 any more their most recent results can show us where they are standing.
2014
Turkmenistan 1-3 Afghanistan
Turkmenistan 0-2 Philippines
2015
Turkmenistan 0-1 Guam
Turkmenistan 1-1 Iran

Can you follow the pattern? Considering the level of their football Iran should be as the same level or lower than Afghanistan, Philippines, and Guam. There is really no excuse for this result.

Bro i am angry about the result too. But this can happen to every footballteam. How often does Real Madrid fail in Copa Del Rey against Teams from
second or even third spanish Leauge? Japan draw at home with their legionairs against Singapur. And Singapur isnt a big team too.
We should be patient.

And i judge Turkmenistan just by their game against Iran. They were dangerous in their attacks and scored
a nice goal against the best defense in Asia.
But as i said it before their defense was just awfull. I am optimistics that we will play better by time.
Guam will be our hardest opponent i suggest.

[shayan_esteghlali]

FIFA World Cup 2018 Qualifier: Turkmenistan - Iran; Sport Toplumy,Dasoguz (16...

Bro i am angry about the result too. But this can happen to every footballteam. How often does Real Madrid fail in Copa Del Rey against Teams from
second or even third spanish Leauge? Japan draw at home with their legionairs against Singapur. And Singapur isnt a big team too.
We should be patient.

And i judge Turkmenistan just by their game against Iran. They were dangerous in their attacks and scored
a nice goal against the best defense in Asia.
But as i said it before their defense was just awfull. I am optimistics that we will play better by time.
Guam will be our hardest opponent i suggest.

Lol u said real madrid it reminded me of them losing to a then third division side alcorcon 4-0 in 2010 [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] they were playing with players like arbeloa, albiol, drenthe, van der vaart, guti, benzema, van nistelroy vs a third division team worth less than one weeks salary of one of their players ))

[Kiarash]

FIFA World Cup 2018 Qualifier: Turkmenistan - Iran; Sport Toplumy,Dasoguz (16...

Lol u said real madrid it reminded me of them losing to a then third division side alcorcon 4-0 in 2010 [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] they were playing with players like arbeloa, albiol, drenthe, van der vaart, guti, benzema, van nistelroy vs a third division team worth less than one weeks salary of one of their players ))

Alcorcon 4-0 Real Madrid?!



Now that was funny.

[PayamPersia]

Lol u said real madrid it reminded me of them losing to a then third division side alcorcon 4-0 in 2010 they were playing with players like arbeloa, albiol, drenthe, van der vaart, guti, benzema, van nistelroy vs a third division team worth less than one weeks salary of one of their players ))

Yes i remember that game

[Ali.Karimi79]

Just realized it will fucking take months till we see TM play again.
I agree that failing at home vs Guam will be the end of CQ's era.

[Farhad-7]

Just realized it will fucking take months till we see TM play again.
I agree that failing at home vs Guam will be the end of CQ's era.

Even if they fail vs. India home or away, that would be devastating. Also Oman won't be easy, CQ has his work cut out for him. He has to win all his remaining games and win big.

I mean come on, Iran came from the World Cup and Asian Cup with good performances, even if Nekounam is gone and the teams in transition mode with few injuries, theres no excuses against these lowly ranked teams. Another fuk up against these teams and I would even call for CQ's head.

[Damavand]

Well my whole summer which I was looking so forward to, is ruined after this terrible result.