If our clubs can play Turkish teams, for the love of Kafashian, also make tm play their national team ffs.
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Originally posted by Camran khan View PostPerspolis drew 0-0 vs Genclerbirligi, Foolad is currently up 1-0 against Eskisehirspor, and Sepahan is up 2-0 against Mersin İdmanyurdu.
EDIT: Foolad just scored their 2nd goal. Third now.
All of the three teams are playing in the first divison of Turkey.
The games are not over, and I still maintain that friendly game results are pointless and say nothing about either the Turkish league, or the Iranian league, but since some people like to come out of their caves and start flaming as soon as our teams do bad, I thought we could post some of the good results too. Will be fun to see their reactions now too if Foolad and Sepahan win, they will probably come up with some excuses for the Turkish teams.
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Originally posted by irani1378 View PostCamran jan, I think these guys have some meaning. At the end of the day both clubs put on majority of their first XI. And once again it shows that our league, is only a tiny step down from the Super Lig (we just don't have the big clubs). Great results against 3 Super Lig teams.
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Beating mid-table teams is one thing. Fenerbahce, Galatasaray and Beskitas are top Euro quality teams. These teams can put up a fight against the Manchester United's of the world. Random mid-table team in Turkey should lose to our top ranked teams. Our mid-table teams would lose in the same way to the top teams of a lower league. Bunyodkor would probably beat our mid-table teams 9/10. That's expected, but our top-ranked teams should be better than Uzbeks because we have a better league.
That being said, our top quality teams beating mid-table Turkish teams is good, but not some grand feat you are all making it to be. It's expected. It's also expected that the top quality teams in Turkey are on another level to Iranian club teams. That's the sign of a more professional league. La Liga as a whole doesn't look like the greatest league when you look at the lower and mid-table teams, but when you have Barca, Real, and Atletico, you're pretty damn well off in World football.
Our top teams are not on the same level as Fenerbahce, Galatasaray, or Beskitas. We are to the Turkish League as lower Asian leagues are to us. If Bunyodkor beat Gostaresh, would that be a big deal to sit here and brag about? Not really. If Sepahan or Naft beat Bunyodkor 7-0, that is a result that shows the relative difference between the leagues. Our league is better than some leagues, and worse than others. Really, many of you should learn to live with it. Anyone who says we have a team that can come close to beating these teams that have current Euro stars like RVP, Nani, Quaresma, etc. and not 40 year olds like Qatari league is buying is lying to themselves at this point. Turkey has a professional European-quality league with infrastructure and proper investment. Iran could NEVER attract an RVP, Nani or Quaresma and that should tell you a lot about our current situation. We will be successful if Iran can finally enter into the modern world politically, but with sanctions, corruption, and every other issue currently facing Iran, you cannot sit here and scoff at Turkish league like we are inherently better than them.
If Naft had beaten Bunyodkor 7-0, and then Bunyodkor had beaten Gostaresh 3-0, would you think it's proper for Uzbeks to suddenly be celebrating that their league is as good as ours? Call me when Zob Ahan or Naft beat Fenerbahce with RVP, Nani, etc. at full strength. Then I will concede that I am stupid and IPL is as good as Turkish league.
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Originally posted by Afat11 View PostBeating mid-table teams is one thing. Fenerbahce, Galatasaray and Beskitas are top Euro quality teams. These teams can put up a fight against the Manchester United's of the world. Random mid-table team in Turkey should lose to our top ranked teams. Our mid-table teams would lose in the same way to the top teams of a lower league. Bunyodkor would probably beat our mid-table teams 9/10. That's expected, but our top-ranked teams should be better than Uzbeks because we have a better league.
That being said, our top quality teams beating mid-table Turkish teams is good, but not some grand feat you are all making it to be. It's expected. It's also expected that the top quality teams in Turkey are on another level to Iranian club teams. That's the sign of a more professional league. La Liga as a whole doesn't look like the greatest league when you look at the lower and mid-table teams, but when you have Barca, Real, and Atletico, you're pretty damn well off in World football.
Our top teams are not on the same level as Fenerbahce, Galatasaray, or Beskitas. We are to the Turkish League as lower Asian leagues are to us. If Bunyodkor beat Gostaresh, would that be a big deal to sit here and brag about? Not really. If Sepahan or Naft beat Bunyodkor 7-0, that is a result that shows the relative difference between the leagues. Our league is better than some leagues, and worse than others. Really, many of you should learn to live with it. Anyone who says we have a team that can come close to beating these teams that have current Euro stars like RVP, Nani, Quaresma, etc. and not 40 year olds like Qatari league is buying is lying to themselves at this point. Turkey has a professional European-quality league with infrastructure and proper investment. Iran could NEVER attract an RVP, Nani or Quaresma and that should tell you a lot about our current situation. We will be successful if Iran can finally enter into the modern world politically, but with sanctions, corruption, and every other issue currently facing Iran, you cannot sit here and scoff at Turkish league like we are inherently better than them.
If Naft had beaten Bunyodkor 7-0, and then Bunyodkor had beaten Gostaresh 3-0, would you think it's proper for Uzbeks to suddenly be celebrating that their league is as good as ours? Call me when Zob Ahan or Naft beat Fenerbahce with RVP, Nani, etc. at full strength. Then I will concede that I am stupid and IPL is as good as Turkish league.
You are contradicting what you earlier said after these games, cause you realise you were wrong. This post of yours is in no way agreeing with your earlier ones. In the earlier ones you were saying that we are beyond awful, below 2nd division etc, while now you are saying it is expected for us to beat mid table teams. PS. Perspolis and Foolad are not top teams this season.
And I said and still believe, these results don't matter, even if Sepahan beat Galatasaray, it's still a friendly, just like Fenerbache embarrassing Zobahan, still just a friendly.
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Originally posted by Camran khan View PostThe problem is, you now said nothing that none of us disagree with. Turkish top teams are way ahead of our teams, our claim was against people like you starting to say that our teams are equal to 3rd or 4th division after one loss. Everyone with their mind intact knows that the likes of Galatasaray etc are ahead of our teams. You even went as far as claiming that you take sh!ts greater than our players.
You are contradicting what you earlier said after these games, cause you realise you were wrong. This post of yours is in no way agreeing with your earlier ones. In the earlier ones you were saying that we are beyond awful, below 2nd division etc, while now you are saying it is expected for us to beat mid table teams. PS. Perspolis and Foolad are not top teams this season.
And I said and still believe, these results don't matter, even if Sepahan beat Galatasaray, it's still a friendly, just like Fenerbache embarrassing Zobahan, still just a friendly.
Infiltrate the thread, destroy it by starting a flame war with me, remove himself from the equation as I'm busy defending my OPINIONS from others and thus looking like an a-hole, then come back and do it again. I can see this behavior from you Camran, and hopefully others will see it too.
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Guys please! No need for this type of discussions!
yesterday I asked afat11 to soften his tone, which he did!
Now I am asking Camran Khan to please also do the same!
Really guys, there are more respectful ways to discuss.
No warnings are issued, because I am sure you guys can manage it without!
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