Why Iran aka Team Akhond allows women to play Soccer in Scarf and Pants and covered?

[Mir Javad]

no actually everything i said to you and before was legit, these two ladies think they can get under my skin so I'm trolling them, but everything before was real, take that how you will.

Mate I have taken the time and went through all your 50 or so posts. I'm curious to know why your opinions and posts are unusually so strong and pointed? Would it not be better if you took a more reserved and open-minded approach with some added humility? Rather than all guns blazing?

No offence but all your posts sound sort of awkward and weird. Thats why I thought you may have been trolling.

[baba ab dad]

Mate I have taken the time and went through all your 50 or so posts. I'm curious to know why are your opinions and posts so unusually strong and pointed? Would it not be better if you took a more reserved and open-minded approach with some added humility? Rather than all guns blazing?

No offence but all your posts sound sort of awkward and weird. Thats why I thought you may have been trolling.

were all built different you have that humility approach and i admire that, you sound reasonable and calm so i adjust my manner of speaking to yours, but like i said were different people i sometimes loose the grace in my words with some people and reply differently, so please if you understand my point take away the misspelled and hastily written words and translate them in your own open minded manner if you wish so, otherwise i only have one tool in my case and its a hammer so i apologise for the heated conversations that i bring but if i see a wiser man exploring better options in replying to these one sided topics, i will keep quite, so please either show them the other side of your open minded convo, or i will do me and let you do you.

[Iran007]

Islam = Backwardness, Oppression, Inequality, Double standards, Jail, Fraud, Imprisonment, Torture, Silencing your critics.....


Thats why.

[rugs]

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I think it's safe to say adab is not your strong suit.

Unlike you, I am Iranian. So I do not appreciate someone like you pretending to be one. That's all is it is. I think if you approached the forums with the desire to learn from others, like Iranians, you would find yourself in much friendlier conversations... and with much more adab

[Mir Javad]

Islam = Backwardness, Oppression, Inequality, Double standards, Jail, Fraud, Imprisonment, Torture, Silencing your critics.....


Thats why.

Oh god you really sound like a sheep, where you have perfectly shown yourself as a selfish and narrow minded person. Its like the millionth time already someone has tried to take a jab at Islam, you guys are fools for repeating the same things over and over again.

Just blame everything on a religion with more than a billion adherents. Don't you have anything more to think about in your life instead of always trying to pathetically demonise a whole religion?

Whether your Christian, Atheist or whatever, just be proud of that instead of actually wasting your time for god sakes on all this hate and marginalisation.

Do something with your life mate. There is no need to hurt and provoke people like this and you are luckily not the only one who is in the same situation. If you can't overcome this intolerance and bigotry, then you may need some help as do a couple of others on this forum and beyond.

[baba ab dad]

I think it's safe to say adab is not your strong suit.

Unlike you, I am Iranian. So I do not appreciate someone like you pretending to be one. That's all is it is. I think if you approached the forums with the desire to learn from others, like Iranians, you would find yourself in much friendlier conversations... and with much more adab

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[rugs]

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With such a low level of adab I think many would find your claims hard to believe.

But what can be done? You must have been taught to speak like that.

[KC McElroy]

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یا جول بری جون لم تتکلم هکذا ؟

[Z Joon]

KC you're using Google translate or you actually can speak arabic?

[KC McElroy]

KC you're using Google translate or you actually can speak arabic?

I speak it.

[Afat11]

Mate I have taken the time and went through all your 50 or so posts. I'm curious to know why your opinions and posts are unusually so strong and pointed? Would it not be better if you took a more reserved and open-minded approach with some added humility? Rather than all guns blazing?

No offence but all your posts sound sort of awkward and weird. Thats why I thought you may have been trolling.

Lol, the saint Mir Javad. Calls my two paragraphs a rant, and admits he didn't read it fully, and then says I am wrong. It's funny how you are on the trolls side...

The way you responded to me is no better than how he responded to others. Don't call yourself Mr. Humility here.

I didn't read your post out of spite though. I can't be reading a few sentences! Wasting my precious time! (just kidding, I'm just saying this to make fun of how you can't take the time to read a couple of paragraphs... It's sad actually).

[Afat11]

Oh god you really sound like a sheep, where you have perfectly shown yourself as a selfish and narrow minded person. Its like the millionth time already someone has tried to take a jab at Islam, you guys are fools for repeating the same things over and over again.

Just blame everything on a religion with more than a billion adherents. Don't you have anything more to think about in your life instead of always trying to pathetically demonise a whole religion?

Whether your Christian, Atheist or whatever, just be proud of that instead of actually wasting your time for god sakes on all this hate and marginalisation.

Do something with your life mate. There is no need to hurt and provoke people like this and you are luckily not the only one who is in the same situation. If you can't overcome this intolerance and bigotry, then you may need some help as do a couple of others on this forum and beyond.

FYI, they will kill us in Iran if we go and say we are Atheist/Christian Iranians. How do you feel about this? How do you feel about the fact that when someone like me who doesn't like Islam goes to Iran, I risk being killed or harmed by the government?

Do you blind yourself to these facts? Iran is just a Muslim Utopia? There are many many problems with Islam. Explain these to me:

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle). According to the verse, Allah will allow the disabled into Paradise, but will provide a larger reward to those who are able to kill others in his cause.

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

There are about 100 more of these kind of passages I can point to.

I've noticed Iranians are like American Christians. They say they are a certain religion, but they actually only know what they are told by some reverend and never actually read their holy book thoroughly. If any of you did, you will see that this book was written by some guy chasing power for him and his friends, and his friend Abu Bakr killed millions of our men and beheaded them, just like ISIS is doing today to try to spread their caliphate.

Iranians are Zorastrian, and other old religions that precede Islam. Islam was created as a tool to conquer and deceive. Enjoy living in your blindness and ignoring these issues.

You are all doing Abu Bakr and Mohammad's bidding today. Continuing to fight over bullshit you've never even read, but were told was the truth by your daddies, who were told by their daddies, and so on all the way back to when our great great great grandfathers were being beheaded and burned and our great great great grandmothers were being raped by these guys.

Islam is a product of Saudi Arabia, and we all know how much they have contributed to the world in the last 3,000 years. Enjoy being an Arab Parast, and product of the Arab vision. I've broken free, like Iranian heroes who fought against Arabs would have wanted.

EDIT: Oh, and it's funny how the people who broke away from the established political religion of a country who forces people to kneel and pray 5 times a day and fast for a month are the sheep. Yes, we who broke away are the sheep, you following a religion, doesn't make you a sheep. Keep drinking the kool-aid...

[Iran007]

Oh god you really sound like a sheep, where you have perfectly shown yourself as a selfish and narrow minded person. Its like the millionth time already someone has tried to take a jab at Islam, you guys are fools for repeating the same things over and over again.

Just blame everything on a religion with more than a billion adherents. Don't you have anything more to think about in your life instead of always trying to pathetically demonise a whole religion?

Whether your Christian, Atheist or whatever, just be proud of that instead of actually wasting your time for god sakes on all this hate and marginalisation.

Do something with your life mate. There is no need to hurt and provoke people like this and you are luckily not the only one who is in the same situation. If you can't overcome this intolerance and bigotry, then you may need some help as do a couple of others on this forum and beyond.

So, just because a NAZI-like religion has millions of mostly uneducated and
villager followers, it must be just and right? Whose being a sheep my friend?

The truth about Islam is very well obvious by the behavior of the Muslims that you are defending. Actions speak louder than cheap words like yours. Islam has done nothing but bring terror and complete destruction to every country it has ruled. IF you actually opened your blind eyes, you would see and actually acknowledge that there isnt ONE ISLAMIC state whose people are living in love and prosperity.
I have done more with my life than you will ever dream of son. I dont need a little Mustlim-defending kid telling me to do something with my life. You on the other hand, pick up a book and read something so that you are not defending a outdated religion which is doing a perfectly fine job of cutting its own head off.

[04041374]

Why Iran aka Team Akhond allows women to play Soccer in Scarf and Pants and c...

who cares what the Saudi's are doing, what the world is telling them or not telling them!! I only care about IRAN and the progression of society and equally for all!!

We may not care, but FIFA should care if they really want to rely on their principles (which they don't)

[persianpopinjay]

its beneath me to even talk to your dahati ass I'm a shirazi asil do you know what that means you sad little boy.

Stop disgracing us in the 'shirazi asli' name. You lack in the gheyrat department far too much to be one.