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    There are many factors that attribute to our young footballers (not taking into account Azmoon, Ezzat, Jahanbacksh and a couple of others) not being able to crack their way into the European leagues.

    1. Sarbazzi - top European clubs do not feel the need to deal with this issue which obviously creates loads of trouble for our youngsters to leave the country. European clubs will just assume to go down to the next promising youngster's name on their list
    2. Professionalism - although most can agree that the Japanese and S. Korean's can be considered professional leagues, the Persian Gulf league is far from being considered professional.
    3. Adjustment - having been isolated from the rest of the world the Iranian youth may find it more difficult to adjust to the way of life in a European country, harder for them to adjust to such living conditions not to mention to a professionally run football club where expectations are 10 fold
    4. Obtaining work permits in Europe is much more difficult for an Iranian then a Japanese or Korean. As we are aware many European counties have certain requirements for footballers to receive a work permit for their country, some requiring the footballer to have played for the country's national team for so many matches, etc.

    It's easy for us to point the finger at our own footballers and suggest that they lack skill, or conviction, but unfortunately it's not as easy as that for most of them to break into Europe. Being far from family and friends is another issue that make it difficult for a youngster who's never been away from home for extended periods, such issues are addressed when you are raised in a professional footballing environment.

    This is where Iran is lacking!! Grassroots, to instill a professional mindset in our talented youth from a tender age, so that when the time comes they will not have to think twice.

    Just my 2 cents!
    He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt, for he has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. Albert Einstein

    Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted, the indifference of those who should have known better, and the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most that has made it possible for evil to triumph.

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      Originally posted by KeonKish View Post
      its also the Russian league where scoring anywhere from 5-10 goals a season is considered pretty good.
      Hulk barely reaches around 15. Rondon barely made 15.
      every league has different amounts of goals for top scorer.

      somebody may score 12 goals in Bundesliga and another may score 6 or 7 in the Russian league but the player in RPL could be a better striker.
      Maybe it is because there is less teams in that league

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        Originally posted by ARYA :) View Post
        There are many factors that attribute to our young footballers (not taking into account Azmoon, Ezzat, Jahanbacksh and a couple of others) not being able to crack their way into the European leagues.

        1. Sarbazzi - top European clubs do not feel the need to deal with this issue which obviously creates loads of trouble for our youngsters to leave the country. European clubs will just assume to go down to the next promising youngster's name on their list
        2. Professionalism - although most can agree that the Japanese and S. Korean's can be considered professional leagues, the Persian Gulf league is far from being considered professional.
        3. Adjustment - having been isolated from the rest of the world the Iranian youth may find it more difficult to adjust to the way of life in a European country, harder for them to adjust to such living conditions not to mention to a professionally run football club where expectations are 10 fold
        4. Obtaining work permits in Europe is much more difficult for an Iranian then a Japanese or Korean. As we are aware many European counties have certain requirements for footballers to receive a work permit for their country, some requiring the footballer to have played for the country's national team for so many matches, etc.

        It's easy for us to point the finger at our own footballers and suggest that they lack skill, or conviction, but unfortunately it's not as easy as that for most of them to break into Europe. Being far from family and friends is another issue that make it difficult for a youngster who's never been away from home for extended periods, such issues are addressed when you are raised in a professional footballing environment.

        This is where Iran is lacking!! Grassroots, to instill a professional mindset in our talented youth from a tender age, so that when the time comes they will not have to think twice.

        Just my 2 cents!
        1- South Koreans have sarbazi too
        3. Mage irania cholaghan?

        You also forgot to say than Japanese are like brazilian and Argentinian. The players of these country are bought because of the name and the (past or present) prestige of their national team. How many weak brazilians are hired in top leagues, juste because they are brazilian??
        For japan and SK, it is the same, even if the scale isn't the same. Like Brazil/Argentina, Japan/SK have 99% of participating of WC. Like Brazil/Argentina, Japan/SK have 90% of participating to confederation cup (top 2 of asian cup at least). Japan/SK use to have good results in past world cup and/or beautiful play there.

        Iran isn't respected internationally : we qualify one out of 2 WC, finish last of our group, doing a "one shot" with a good performance out of 3 matches (Mexico in 2006, Argentina in 2014). The exception can be 1998 with two good performance against US and Yugoslavia (results => tons of legionnaires in EU). While Japan/SK went to the last 16 twice in WC, iran best performance is a win against US in 98.

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          ^Do you disagree with the difficulties Iranian youngsters have in obtaining work permits, forget Europe, but anywhere in the world? With or without Sarbazi issues. Do you disagree that a European team is more reluctant to hire a footballer who has been raised with a more professional mindset and skill set. Do you disagree that our youth are not accustomed to being away from friends and family. Not sure how Brazil and Argentina got into the mix. We're talking about Asian footballers, and which Asian country has the most exports in Europe.

          Yes, I know that Japan and Korea did make it to the last 16, which was the result of their having created a professional footballing culture in their nations and loads of investment in grassroots and youth programs, which is also why these two are regulars where the Olympics are concerned! I don't understand your point!
          He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt, for he has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice. Albert Einstein

          Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted, the indifference of those who should have known better, and the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most that has made it possible for evil to triumph.

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            Jahanbaksh's face when he sees the posts in his thread

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              But seriously though, who gives a damn about Japanese and Korean's in EU. are their national teams above us? have they defeated us in the last 3 years?

              They haven't done jackshit with all their european players while we are #1 in asia with all the IPL players you folks like to bash everyday.

              Totally baffling. And we don't even have 1% of facilities that Korea or Japan have.

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                Originally posted by TheBoss View Post
                But seriously though, who gives a damn about Japanese and Korean's in EU. are their national teams above us? have they defeated us in the last 3 years?

                They haven't done jackshit with all their european players while we are #1 in asia with all the IPL players you folks like to bash everyday.

                Totally baffling. And we don't even have 1% of facilities that Korea or Japan have.
                No man its all cq without him we'd be losing to these teams 7/8-0 just like in the old days

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                  It seems that people forget, Japan used to naturalize Brazilian players (Wagner Lopes, Alessandro Santos, to name a few) for their national team as recent as mid 2000's when the likes of Azizi, Daei, Karimi were winning Asian player of the year awards.

                  Hell, Japan didn't even qualify for the AFC Asian Cup until 1988.

                  They are the ones who should look up to us. We have been number 1 in asia longer than any other team in the continent.

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                    Originally posted by TheBoss View Post
                    It seems that people forget, Japan used to naturalize Brazilian players (Wagner Lopes, Alessandro Santos, to name a few) for their national team as recent as mid 2000's when the likes of Azizi, Daei, Karimi were winning Asian player of the year awards.

                    Hell, Japan didn't even qualify for the AFC Asian Cup until 1988.

                    They are the ones who should look up to us. We have been number 1 in asia longer than any other team in the continent.
                    From what I know, football was treated like a joke there until 1990s.

                    World Cup : x2 round of 16 appearanes
                    Confederations Cup : x1 Runners-up
                    Asian Cup : x4 championships (record)

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                      Originally posted by TheBoss View Post
                      It seems that people forget, Japan used to naturalize Brazilian players (Wagner Lopes, Alessandro Santos, to name a few) for their national team as recent as mid 2000's when the likes of Azizi, Daei, Karimi were winning Asian player of the year awards.

                      Hell, Japan didn't even qualify for the AFC Asian Cup until 1988.

                      They are the ones who should look up to us. We have been number 1 in asia longer than any other team in the continent.
                      This is getting a bit random, but you know what I wonder? How do countries like China, India not produce at least one world class player? I mean, its not the main sport there but for crying out loud its over 1 billion people. At least one good player has to come out of it in the next 20 years. Imagine Iran with that population, holy shit we would reach quarterfinals of world cup.

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                        Alireza Jahanbakhsh @ AZ Alkmaar | 2015 - 2016

                        Originally posted by Gucci10 View Post
                        This is getting a bit random, but you know what I wonder? How do countries like China, India not produce at least one world class player? I mean, its not the main sport there but for crying out loud its over 1 billion people. At least one good player has to come out of it in the next 20 years. Imagine Iran with that population, holy shit we would reach quarterfinals of world cup.
                        Well I don't think Indians actually like sports in general. Yeah I know they like cricket, but it's mainly because of Sachin Tendulkar - the only respectable Indian athlete.

                        As for the Chinese, it's a completely different story. These guys are probably the hardest working specimens on earth. They kill most other nations in the medal tally of the Olympics. But a lot of that has to do with the amount to chemical enhancement (doping) going on in that part of the world.

                        See football is a unique sport where the best players aren't great because of their athletic abilities that doping can help with, but it's mostly about individual skill and creativity that you see in players like Neymar, Messi, Ronaldo etc.

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                          Jahanbakhsh starting in cup game against Kozakken Boys

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                            He will score today.
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                              link please

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                                Originally posted by padesha View Post
                                link please
                                http://livetv.sx/en/eventinfo/368906..._az_alkmaar/#_
                                Support Iran until the end

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