Alireza Jahanbakhsh @ AZ Alkmaar | 2015 - 2016

[ali alipour]

^^look at all these Japanes players in Europe!! it is sad we do not have as many players out there. it is all because of these ridiculous salaries unjustified in IPL.

Lol if you think that's the only reason you're straight up delusional. Japanese league average salary is most likely higher than ipl's anyway and they actually get paid their full contract. Im sure if every semi decent ipl player got an offer from a mid table bundesliga team we'd have a lot more players there.

[04041374]

With the expection of Perspolis, Esteghlal and Sepahan, where the players get a ridicolous high amount of money, other players, especially young and less experienced players don't get that much salary. The Mohammadi twins have an annual salary of 150-200 million tomans , which is about 35-50k euros. A lot of players in average IPL teams get less than 100 Million.

[football.club]

Kagawa, Nagatomo, Honda, Shinji Okazaki and Makoto Hasebe have all been successful in their clubs and this opens up for other Japanese players to join european teams. Football is business, look at Porto, shakhtar and Dortmund for example. They buy players with raw talent and develop them into superstars.
Iranian players have not been successful in Europe (after Daei, Madavikia, Azizi era) and therefore European clubs look elsewhere.
Remember, the number of non-eu players are limited, so they have to pick the best players. Our football academies are very weak!! so dont expect too much. We should be happy that Sardar, saeid ezatollahi and Jahanbaksh have reached a good level.

[ali alipour]

Kagawa, Nagatomo, Honda, Shinji Okazaki and Makoto Hasebe have all been successful in their clubs and this opens up for other Japanese players to join european teams. Football is business, look at Porto, shakhtar and Dortmund for example. They buy players with raw talent and develop them into superstars.
Iranian players have not been successful in Europe (after Daei, Madavikia, Azizi era) and therefore European clubs look elsewhere.
Remember, the number of non-eu players are limited, so they have to pick the best players. Our football academies are very weak!! so dont expect too much. We should be happy that Sardar, saeid ezatollahi and Jahanbaksh have reached a good level.

Most iranian players who join top leagues have played well. Which iranian player has gotten the opportunity play in a top 4 league in the past 5 years and has been unsuccesful?

[Z Joon]

Kagawa, Nagatomo, Honda, Shinji Okazaki and Makoto Hasebe have all been successful in their clubs and this opens up for other Japanese players to join european teams. Football is business, look at Porto, shakhtar and Dortmund for example. They buy players with raw talent and develop them into superstars.
Iranian players have not been successful in Europe (after Daei, Madavikia, Azizi era) and therefore European clubs look elsewhere.
Remember, the number of non-eu players are limited, so they have to pick the best players. Our football academies are very weak!! so dont expect too much. We should be happy that Sardar, saeid ezatollahi and Jahanbaksh have reached a good level.

It has nothing to do with our football ability. Our players have nothing less that Japanese or Korean ones playing in Europe, out of their top players like Honda and Kagawa.

You should perhaps try to watch again Iran's matches against those teams, or maybe the games our players in Europe played against theirs . We have continuously proved on the football pitch that Iranian players are certainly not inferior to the fortunate East-Asians that get to play in Germany and elsewhere

[PSGman#19]

Kagawa, Nagatomo, Honda, Shinji Okazaki and Makoto Hasebe have all been successful in their clubs and this opens up for other Japanese players to join european teams. Football is business, look at Porto, shakhtar and Dortmund for example. They buy players with raw talent and develop them into superstars.
Iranian players have not been successful in Europe (after Daei, Madavikia, Azizi era) and therefore European clubs look elsewhere.
Remember, the number of non-eu players are limited, so they have to pick the best players. Our football academies are very weak!! so dont expect too much. We should be happy that Sardar, saeid ezatollahi and Jahanbaksh have reached a good level.

+1
Daei, Mahdavikia Karimi etc.. weren't more successful and famous than all these japanese/koreans playing in top european leagues and champions league. The only top clubs in which iranian clubs played was Bayern and they weren't successful there (Karimi maybe before the injury but that's all).

Yeah we outplayed Japan in a meaningless friendly at home but the final results was 1/1. And Japan NT was more successful and consistent than TM in the last 20 years.

[Kiarash]

Iranian players have not been successful in Europe

Javad Nekounam (149 caps) and Masoud Shojaei (101 caps) were key players for Osasuna for years in one of the best leagues in the world, La Liga.

[Kiarash]

Osasuna isn't a top spanish teams, let alone Champions league participant.

Osasuna were in the semi's of the UEFA Cup season 2006-2007

Nekounam's goal against Bordeaux which sent Osasuna through:

[FF187]

Nevertheless I agree we are lacking a strong base of talents in top teams. I remember the time we had Mahdavikia, Hashemian and Khatibi on field in one game for Hamburg...Daei scoring twice against Chelsea at Hertha in the Champions League...etc.

[04041374]

As there is a discussion about transferring Asian (Iranian/Japanese/Korean) players to Europe, this is what Alireza Haghighi has said in a recent interview

آرزویم این است که روزی در یک تیم بزرگ در یکی از لیگ*های خوب اروپا بازی کنم. می*دانم که هدف خیلی سختی برای یک دروازه*بان است. آن هم دروازه*بانی از آسیا و آن هم ایرانی. چرا که بازیکنان کره*ای و ژاپنی خیلی راحت*تر از ایرانی*ها به اروپا ترانسفر می*شوند. دلیلش هم این است که پیراهن همان بازیکنان در باشگاه جدیدشان بلافاصله در بازارهای شرق آسیا با تعداد بالایی به فروش می*رسد که این اتفاق سود بالایی به آن باشگاه اروپایی می*رساند. از بحث اسپانسرشیپ هم نباید گذشت که شرکت*های کره و ژاپن برای کمک به ترانسفر بازیکنان کشورشان و مطرح شدن نام خود اسپانسر باشگاه*های اروپایی می*شوند اما در ایران به دلیل رعایت نشدن حق کپی رایت و وجود مسائل دیگر انتقال بازیکنان خیلی سخت*تر انجام می شود

He basically says, that goalkeepers, in general players from Asia, especially Iranian players have a difficult task to get to Europa and that players from East Asia have an easier way due to marketing and sponsoring reasons and incomes European players profit of.

I remember we had loads of Iranian players in Europe in the early 2000s and a lot of Iranian players who rarely played at TM moved to Europe even years after the WC (Majidi, Samereh, Serjik Teymourian). Between 2006/07 and 2013/14 we had a drought of transferring Iranian players to Europe and a lot of players with huge potential have been wasted in Iran (Khalatbari, Rahmati, Gh. Rezaei, Heydari). Now, after the WC 2014, Iranian players have become more attractive, but not as wanted as in the past. There are way less offers and if there ore some, it's mostly "less attractive" teams. In this summer window only 3 Iranian players were seriously involved with a transfer to Europe. (Mohammadi, Sharifi, Hajsafi)

[Z Joon]

As there is a discussion about transferring Asian (Iranian/Japanese/Korean) players to Europe, this is what Alireza Haghighi has said in a recent interview

آرزویم این است که روزی در یک تیم بزرگ در یکی از لیگ*های خوب اروپا بازی کنم. می*دانم که هدف خیلی سختی برای یک دروازه*بان است. آن هم دروازه*بانی از آسیا و آن هم ایرانی. چرا که بازیکنان کره*ای و ژاپنی خیلی راحت*تر از ایرانی*ها به اروپا ترانسفر می*شوند. دلیلش هم این است که پیراهن همان بازیکنان در باشگاه جدیدشان بلافاصله در بازارهای شرق آسیا با تعداد بالایی به فروش می*رسد که این اتفاق سود بالایی به آن باشگاه اروپایی می*رساند. از بحث اسپانسرشیپ هم نباید گذشت که شرکت*های کره و ژاپن برای کمک به ترانسفر بازیکنان کشورشان و مطرح شدن نام خود اسپانسر باشگاه*های اروپایی می*شوند اما در ایران به دلیل رعایت نشدن حق کپی رایت و وجود مسائل دیگر انتقال بازیکنان خیلی سخت*تر انجام می شود

He basically says, that goalkeepers, in general players from Asia, especially Iranian players have a difficult task to get to Europa and that players from East Asia have an easier way due to marketing and sponsoring reasons and incomes European players profit of.

I remember we had loads of Iranian players in Europe in the early 2000s and a lot of Iranian players who rarely played at TM moved to Europe even years after the WC (Majidi, Samereh, Serjik Teymourian). Between 2006/07 and 2013/14 we had a drought of transferring Iranian players to Europe and a lot of players with huge potential have been wasted in Iran (Khalatbari, Rahmati, Gh. Rezaei, Heydari). Now, after the WC 2014, Iranian players have become more attractive, but not as wanted as in the past. There are way less offers and if there ore some, it's mostly "less attractive" teams. In this summer window only 3 Iranian players were seriously involved with a transfer to Europe. (Mohammadi, Sharifi, Hajsafi)

What I've been saying for years. Great to hear it from one of our players that also went over there and knows how it works.

[ramingeles2000]

What I've been saying for years. Great to hear it from one of our players that also went over there and knows how it works.

his explanation doesnt make sense, if iranian players were transferring to europe in early 2000s, what's changed since then to result in very few currently making it? the answer, which haghighi doesn't mention here, is easy: they're not as talented or disciplined as those players who made serious careers in europe

[PSGman#19]

Osasuna were in the semi's of the UEFA Cup season 2006-2007

Nekounam's goal against Bordeaux which sent Osasuna through:

One shot.

What are the sponsoring/marketing reason that FFS Frankfurt or Rostov hired an east asian??

That's normal that iranians aren't hype anymore, we (TM and EU legionnaires) disappeared from the circulation during some crucial years. Remember how Iran was mocked during the WC14 draw and just before the start of last WC. It was like we were guam with some amateur guy that play football as a hobby

[Z Joon]

his explanation doesnt make sense, if iranian players were transferring to europe in early 2000s, what's changed since then to result in very few currently making it? the answer, which haghighi doesn't mention here, is easy: they're not as talented or disciplined as those players who made serious careers in europe

This generation is maybe not as talented as the one in the era you mentioned but most of our youngsters and top players are talented enough to make it into 90% of the teams where Japanese and Korean players play.

[ali alipour]

his explanation doesnt make sense, if iranian players were transferring to europe in early 2000s, what's changed since then to result in very few currently making it? the answer, which haghighi doesn't mention here, is easy: they're not as talented or disciplined as those players who made serious careers in europe

You literally only post here to say iranian players are shit. When this is your only belief i dont understand why youd waste your time following iranian football.
If iranian players had the same opportunities as east asian players or even as past generations can you explain why pooladi, one of the best rated defenders in the world cup, isnt in the bundesliga or epl? Or why hajsafi had to spend an extra yeae in iran even though he had offers from england and even travelled there. Was this because hes not talented or because of non footballing reasons?