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FIFA World Cup 2018 Qualifier: Iran - Guam @ Azadi Stadium, Tehran [03.09.2015]

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    #46
    Agree with above post

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      #47
      Seems to me like this guy is trying to pull a Jose Mourinho and create drama out of nothing.

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        #48
        Originally posted by irani8perspolis View Post
        you have no idea what you are talking about and i wont argue with you because you will give me sarcastic responses instead of informative points
        LOL. Typical. Stop blaming the freaking grass for a bad performance in a football match. It makes you sound silly.


        Originally posted by Afat11 View Post
        Same pessimistic people who decide to blame 1 person for every game TM fail, instead of taking into account all of the variables involved in a bad game by a team in a team sport.

        Blame just CQ, or just Beitashour, or just Davari, to further an agenda towards those that these members personally don't care for.

        How about blaming the lack of team cohesion, and the retirement of our captain. Us playing with essentially a C Team, 2 of our best players being injured. It being the first game of a long road to the World Cup, etc.

        There are many issues that contribute to our poor performance against Turkmenistan.

        When people think back to our loss to Lebanon, most of you just jumped to calling CQ a shit coach, and nobody would acknowledge the fact that we again, played with a C team, hit the post, and dominated the whole game, and ran into bad luck.

        When CQ loses a game where we have Jahanbakhsh, Dejagah, our captain playing as the captain for more than one game, and it's not very early in the coach's experimentation with new players in a transitional team, I will jump on the fire CQ bandwagon many of you have been on since we lost 1 game in 2011. The fact is, when CQ found our strongest team in 2013, we ascended to the top of Asia.

        Expecting the likes of Torabi and Taremi to win games for TM in their second caps, you are asking a bit much. We are a team in transition. Wait more than 1 game before jumping to conclusions about our coach's quality.

        It's called being reactionary. Many Iranians are pessimists and overly emotional about single events shaping entire opinions.
        What or who is your post directed toward? IF it is toward my comments, from what or where did you get the idea of me blaming CQ for the sub-par performance of TM in the game against Turkmenistan? Similar to the text you typed up, I am trying to make people understand that it was a combination of errors that led to crappy result against Turkmenistan, and not "bad pitch".

        I don't know about you guys, but I for one am sick and tired of TM always stumbling out of the gates; having to play catch up during each World Cup Qualifying campaign. For once, I want to see them qualify at the top of the group during each stage, without any "IF" situation.

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          #49
          Originally posted by mahestan View Post
          LOL. Typical. Stop blaming the freaking grass for a bad performance in a football match. It makes you sound silly.




          What or who is your post directed toward? IF it is toward my comments, from what or where did you get the idea of me blaming CQ for the sub-par performance of TM in the game against Turkmenistan? Similar to the text you typed up, I am trying to make people understand that it was a combination of errors that led to crappy result against Turkmenistan, and not "bad pitch".

          I don't know about you guys, but I for one am sick and tired of TM always stumbling out of the gates; having to play catch up during each World Cup Qualifying campaign. For once, I want to see them qualify at the top of the group during each stage, without any "IF" situation.
          It was in response to a few members, including you. It seemed like you were saying that we had "only one gameplan" and that was the reason for the poor result. I didn't hear you blame anything else. The bad pitch is one variable for our result, maybe not the only one, but it seemed more like you were saying the gameplan was the only problem, and that is a knock at CQ, who makes the gameplan...

          If you meant otherwise, though, sorry. It just seemed like you were the one saying to blame the guy making the gameplan, not the fact that there were many different variables that led to our result. Young unexperienced players (and those who never learn better through playing in amateur conditions) are always going to resort to hoofing the ball towards the goal when they need one.

          The sign of a technical and experienced team is when the team passes the ball short and builds up play until they get towards the goal and either take a shot, or pass across the face of goal. If you notice, Dejagah is very good at this type of play, and TM is more dangerous when he is in for that reason. Despite his fitness and technical ability going down since joining the Qatar team, the guys vision for the game, basic dribbling and ground passing are still pretty good. I rarely see him hoof the ball. With experience, our team will play better.

          You can't expect early great results after a world cup. Even Germany has stumbled a few times after they won the whole thing! Many teams go through transitions, and we definitely are in a transition period.

          If you and others like, our gameplan could rely on keeping Nekounam, Jabbari, Haddadifar, and other "experienced players for these games against Turkmenistan, India and Guam. We will get short term results and start off our campaign well, but such a gameplan will come back and bite us in the a** in 2017. I'm happy that TM for once is going young, and I will accept an early stumble for our long term cohesion and success.

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            #50
            Iran will not win with a double digit margin for sure as some suggest, however it will win comfortably. Turkmenistan game was a hick hop of Iran a reaction to a transition against team that we have never won a game against. Turkmenistan is our black horse. However this black horse will be demolished in away match by our young team and our first ever win against Turkmenistan will be the start of our permanent domination against these minnows. Don't worry too much. Our real task at hand will be the 3rd round against teams such as UAE and Iraq alongside our main trio opponents: Korea, Japan and Australia. We will have a tough road to Russia starting round 3.
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              #51
              My prediction :

              Iran 5 Guam 0

              Goals: 2 by Azmoun , 1 JB, 1 hajsafi, 1 Dejagah
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                #52
                we have to win, we have to win win win win

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by mahestan View Post
                  LOL. Typical. Stop blaming the freaking grass for a bad performance in a football match. It makes you sound silly.




                  What or who is your post directed toward? IF it is toward my comments, from what or where did you get the idea of me blaming CQ for the sub-par performance of TM in the game against Turkmenistan? Similar to the text you typed up, I am trying to make people understand that it was a combination of errors that led to crappy result against Turkmenistan, and not "bad pitch".

                  I don't know about you guys, but I for one am sick and tired of TM always stumbling out of the gates; having to play catch up during each World Cup Qualifying campaign. For once, I want to see them qualify at the top of the group during each stage, without any "IF" situation.
                  AAAAmen to that brother..!! especially the bold..!

                  i want and expect 6 points from next 2 WCQs and relatively comfortable, preferably Early topping of this utter joke of a qualifying group..! NO EXCUSES, NO IFs AND BUTs..!!

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                    #54
                    Anything less than 6 points from these 2 games will be a great disappointment.

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                      #55
                      2-0 iran

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                        #56
                        If we don't hammer both after this Turkmenistan result then there is a problem

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by mahestan View Post
                          I don't know about you guys, but I for one am sick and tired of TM always stumbling out of the gates; having to play catch up during each World Cup Qualifying campaign. For once, I want to see them qualify at the top of the group during each stage, without any "IF" situation.
                          We have always suffered in that area. For as long as I can remember TM has always put us football fans through these ongoing ordeals where we have to put up with so much stress heart attacks before qualifying from groups, knockout stages etc.

                          Even during our 2010 WCQ in the first round of qualification we almost choked against teams like Syria and Kuwait having the nightmare of not being able to advance from the group. Not to mention our 2006 WCQ thriller where our adventure almost ended in the second round of the qualification, thanks to Borhani and Hashemian for saving us from early exit with their late goals...

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Keano View Post
                            We have always suffered in that area. For as long as I can remember TM has always put us football fans through these ongoing ordeals where we have to put up with so much stress heart attacks before qualifying from groups, knockout stages etc.

                            Even during our 2010 WCQ in the first round of qualification we almost choked against teams like Syria and Kuwait having the nightmare of not being able to advance from the group. Not to mention our 2006 WCQ thriller where our adventure almost ended in the second round of the qualification, thanks to Borhani and Hashemian for saving us from early exit with their late goals...
                            Back in 1998, as a young TM supporter, it was heartbreak after heartbreak until Iran qualified. I will never forget the Iran vs. Japan game where it ended with the golden goal in the 118 minute. What a heartbreak that was. Not forgetting the insane roller coaster ride of the Australia game. Who knows how many years off my life span I shaved off stressing out and yelling at the TV "shoot shoot shoot". After that, I prayed to every deity known to man that TM would qualify for future WC with ease. Boy was I wrong. You summed it up very well. Each campaign after that has also been a roller coaster.

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                              #59
                              In all honesty, I am tired of TM fans being extremely overconfident. When I first saw the draw for this group I had a feeling it would pose some challenges. In football, road qualifying games can always be tough, we already saw what happened at Turkmenistan. The reason why I think this group can be challenging is because these are opponents that Iran is not familiar with. Guam may be ranked low but they have players who play in the MLS, NASL, and USL. Out of all teams in the last pot, Guam was the team I wanted to avoid most. I am not saying TM should be scared, but they need to take them seriously. Any mistakes by TM can be crucial. A road game at India with lousy weather can also be challenging. Bottom line, TM should win as long as they play to their full potential. Anything less can result in a lot of us getting angry and pointing fingers.
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                                #60
                                On the paper Iran is a much stronger team and they should finish the game 3-0 (Guam is better now compared to 10-15 years ago).
                                But if they play nonchalant again and underestimate their opponents, unexpected problems may occur.

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