Foreigners in TM Melli

[Z Joon]

Just wait until 2022, f it stays in Qatar that is. People will make them a laughing stock when the Foxsports commentators mention it over and over again.

"The small Arab nation of Qatar with the ball. Giovani van Baghareh passes the ball to Short Al Kootah, switches it wide Nkutu Somali, taps it back Bruno Lionel Sergio Javier Palacio... itll be a joke

Thankfully I don't think it will be to this extent, one thing I noticed is that Qatar mostly (obviously, not always, there is a good number of south american naturalized players) naturalizes "Muslim" players from countries where muslims represent a big portion of the population, so that the names sound more natural... Players from Morocco, Algeria, Ghana, Egypt, Bahrain, Kuwait, Congo DR, Guinea, Sudan, Senegal mostly fill up their recent squads.

Probably just a trick to make it sound more legit, less ridiculous.

[FootballeKhob]

Yeah lets invite Edinho who plays in Qatar. I am sure he loves Iran with all his heart. We can also neutralize some South Americans and Africans while we are at it too. Would be a nice combo. Havent you guys seen the Toure and Fernandinho combo at Manchester City?

[KC McElroy]

Just wait until 2022, f it stays in Qatar that is. People will make them a laughing stock when the Foxsports commentators mention it over and over again.

"The small Arab nation of Qatar with the ball. Giovani van Baghareh passes the ball to Short Al Kootah, switches it wide Nkutu Somali, taps it back Bruno Lionel Sergio Javier Palacio... itll be a joke

I wrote a full report on it a while back;

http://www.persianfootball.com/forum...-qatar-in-2022

[Gotham]

Only if they have been living in Iran more than 10 years and strongly feel Iranian. In my opinion, let's not mix national teams with club teams.

Too bad the 21st century doesn't give a shit about your opinion.

[perspolis#1]

Too bad the 21st century doesn't give a shit about your opinion.

With the right player culture and less corruption, we wouls beat any team from South America or Europe on our day. The best 11 Argentinians couldnt beat us if they didnt have the best player on earth.

The best African players(Nigeria) huffed and puffed but couldnt score. Do we need players from these countries? No. Not at all.

[sirvan]

Too bad the 21st century doesn't give a shit about your opinion.

Well apparently the majority of Iranians share my opinion, which makes my opinion matter more than yours in this case here in the 21st century, that's the sad reality for you. Now why don't you get your sorry hairy ass out of here and support a country like Qatar and don't forget to jump up and down when some random guy named luis amarillo (who's been living in Qatar for 2 years and doesnt give a shit about Qatar other than money) scores for your new nation

[Nokhodi]

Too bad the 21st century doesn't give a shit about your opinion.

Actually most of the 21st century countries agree.
In most modern countries citizenship takes 4-10 years of residency so it gives the applicant a chance to actually care for that nation and adapt - not just be a mercenary.
Perhaps you should cheer for Qatar or Bahrain.

[KC McElroy]

Too bad the 21st century doesn't give a shit about your opinion.

With the right player culture and less corruption, we wouls beat any team from South America or Europe on our day. The best 11 Argentinians couldnt beat us if they didnt have the best player on earth.

The best African players(Nigeria) huffed and puffed but couldnt score. Do we need players from these countries? No. Not at all.

Well apparently the majority of Iranians share my opinion, which makes my opinion matter more than yours in this case here in the 21st century, that's the sad reality for you. Now why don't you get your sorry hairy ass out of here and support a country like Qatar and don't forget to jump up and down when some random guy named luis amarillo (who's been living in Qatar for 2 years and doesnt give a shit about Qatar other than money) scores for your new nation

Actually most of the 21st century countries agree.
In most modern countries citizenship takes 4-10 years of residency so it gives the applicant a chance to actually care for that nation and adapt - not just be a mercenary.
Perhaps you should cheer for Qatar or Bahrain.

Wow that seriously was some major incorset pwnage.

[Gucci10]

The only foreigners we get in our country is Afghan, who are treated like peasants in most cases. Its really sad that for a nation which has so many different ethnicities, we have such a hard time excepting others.

And Armenian.

[persepolisfan]

if you are born in Iran, you are iranian in my books. If you have at least one Iranian parent, you are Iranian as well. At the moment though, we dont need kharejis, in fact keeping our team a team of Iranians is more unique nowadays anyways.

[YeCheesi Tala]

I personally think the definition of country is changing drastically and will change in the future.
Countries a few centuries ago were a representation of a group of people sharing certain ethnically similarities "Same blood", in a general perspective. However, with the refugees and fast pace traveling options and business expansion this concept is slowly fading away (look at Germany, UK, Canada and US, Japan,Spain).
The definition of country is now changing slowly to a group of people who share certain cultural practices and values and food/music preferences. This will also change by the end of this century as cultures will slowly intermingle and unify in a fluidic singularity via help of computational and technological tools.

So, should "foreigners" be allowed into TM?
I think about what a nation means. I think the current term 'nation' describes cultural practice and values. If a person who has lived in Iran and really embraces the Iranian culture and values they should be able to play for TM.

[Gotham]

With the right player culture and less corruption, we wouls beat any team from South America or Europe on our day. The best 11 Argentinians couldnt beat us if they didnt have the best player on earth.

The best African players(Nigeria) huffed and puffed but couldnt score. Do we need players from these countries? No. Not at all.

we got 1 point in 3 games again and Bosnia killed us, stop sugar coating our WC campaign

[Gotham]

Actually most of the 21st century countries agree.
In most modern countries citizenship takes 4-10 years of residency so it gives the applicant a chance to actually care for that nation and adapt - not just be a mercenary.
Perhaps you should cheer for Qatar or Bahrain.

That's what I meant from the first place. If someone stays in Iran long enough (5+ years) they should be allowed to play for Iran. Maybe I should have made that clear.

[Nokhodi]

And Armenian.

They're not foreigners. They are Iranian Armenians.

[Gotham]

if you are born in Iran, you are iranian in my books. If you have at least one Iranian parent, you are Iranian as well. At the moment though, we dont need kharejis, in fact keeping our team a team of Iranians is more unique nowadays anyways.

Yeah nobody really cares if you're unique, people care if you're football is good. Germany's football is good and they get respected. That's what I want, if any good foreigners do show up in IPL who have lived in Iran for 5 years or so and want to play for us, by all means we should let them. Maybe people will also start to realize Iran's not a complete shithole like Saudi Arabia and whatnot. It can only make us better as a nation.