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    #16
    Is there any statement from Kafashian? Queiroz? Or how about the big mouthed Asadi & Co. from politics? No opposition to this bullshit? Are we easy victims?

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      #17
      Look, even if our players have to swim to Guam - We should be beating them easily.
      Nevertheless, Kiarash is right. Our main rivals (in sports and politics) are doing whatever they can to stop our progress and make it difficult for us. Instead of the IFF focusing on 'Khale-zanak bazi' (e.g. arguing over a player's tattoo) it should focus on making alliances with countries around us (through friendlies and meetings etc.) in order to take power in AFC and have some (direct or indirect) influence in FIFA.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Shah Abbas View Post
        Look, even if our players have to swim to Guam - Which should be beating them easily.
        Nevertheless, Kiarash is right. Our main rivals (in sports and politics) are doing whatever they can to stop our progress and make it difficult for us. Instead of the IFF focusing on 'Khale-zanak bazi' (e.g. arguing over a player's tattoo) it should focus on making alliances with countries around us (through friendlies and meetings etc.) in order to take power in AFC and have some (direct or indirect) influence in FIFA.
        To take power and seats in int'l organizations you need influence. Money can get you only so far.
        Influence comes when you are liked and/or respected (if not liked). Iran, as a country (no thanks to the regime) is not liked by nearly anyone. Even our supposed allies don't really like Iran. They are supposedly allies because it serves them in their own agendas (Russia, china, ... ).

        So anyone from Iran vying for an influential seat in a major organization has double the obstacles to overcome and double the work to appease and win over votes.

        To top that, having totally uneducated, undeserving morons in official posts also doesn't help our cause. Do when a moron has got his office through bribes or being some bastard's nephew or son, then this f**k wouldn't know jack about lobbying or winning people over. Especially lack of education or familiarity with a foreign language would not only make things more difficult, but it also makes others lose their respect for such an individual.
        So this actually feeds the lack of respect and dislike even more!

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          #19
          I bet a team of PFDC'ers in charge in IFF with no degrees in football education would do a better job in handling these cases, seriously.

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            #20
            Baba IFF ke ye mosht bisavadan...I hope we demolish them badly, something what I can't tolerate is "namardi", and what Guam is actually doing is pure namardi
            ما میمیریم میمیریم ایران رو پس میگیریم

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              #21
              Originally posted by Shah Abbas View Post
              Look, even if our players have to swim to Guam - Which should be beating them easily.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Martin-Reza View Post
                Is there any statement from Kafashian? Queiroz? Or how about the big mouthed Asadi & Co. from politics? No opposition to this bullshit? Are we easy victims?
                Exactly. Mau dareem inja khodemoon-o jer mideem and nobody else seems to care. Who knows, maybe they applied for the visas late, maybe they didn't submit the required documentation, maybe...

                We're just getting bits and pieces from the Iranian media who themselves aren't exactly a beacon of truth or accuracy. All I know is that if what Guam are doing is against FIFA regulations we would have heard more about it from someone related to TM.

                I checked the FIFA regulations and there is no specific timelines for visas (i.e. how early), although it does say a host association must have received the travel itinerary of a visiting team and made provisions for visas at least a week before the match. That would suggests that Guam FA have another two days to issue visas for our players.

                "FIFA and the host association shall be informed of the travel itineraryof the visiting association at least one week in advance and the visitingassociation shall have made provisions for obtaining the visas, if applicable, inaccordance with art. 4 par. 1 e)."

                Article 4 E: "applying for any required visas in good time from the consulate orembassy of the host country; if necessary, the assistance of the OrganisingAssociation is to be sought as early as possible"

                And here's the FIFA regulation concerning a change of venue... Basically any country can change the venue up to 60 days before the match. Between 60-30 days before the match, they can only do so by getting permission from the visiting team. And between 30-7 days they would have to get permission from FIFA:

                "The host association shall inform its opponents and the FIFA general secretariatof the kick-off time at least 60 days before the match in question is due tobe played. If the host association requests a change, the written approval ofthe visiting team must be obtained by 30 days before the match at the latest.After this deadline, only FIFA may approve a late change of kick-off time basedon well-founded and documented reasons for up to seven days prior to thematch."
                Last edited by Bi-honar; 11-10-2015, 07:56 AM.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Kiarash View Post
                  I bet a team of PFDC'ers in charge in IFF with no degrees in football education would do a better job in handling these cases, seriously.
                  You believe people working at IFF have degrees in football education?

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                    #24
                    Hypothetical scenario to show the pariah state of Iran; Tomorrow if ISIS tries to send a sporting team and the host country doesn't give them visas, doesn't allow free travel of the team, fans, ... , what would you say? Other than ''serves those bastards right''. "'Good job. More please''. "'Give it to them harder'' and alike, right?
                    Iran is pretty much in that situation, if slightly less

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View Post
                      Hypothetical scenario to show the pariah state of Iran; Tomorrow if ISIS tries to send a sporting team and the host country doesn't give them visas, doesn't allow free travel of the team, fans, ... , what would you say? Other than ''serves those bastards right''. "'Good job. More please''. "'Give it to them harder'' and alike, right?
                      Iran is pretty much in that situation, if slightly less
                      Nah, that was maybe 10 years ago. But now the average first worlder feels much more symphathy for Iran than for many other countries around the world. Thanks to the internet.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View Post
                        Hypothetical scenario to show the pariah state of Iran; Tomorrow if ISIS tries to send a sporting team and the host country doesn't give them visas, doesn't allow free travel of the team, fans, ... , what would you say? Other than ''serves those bastards right''. "'Good job. More please''. "'Give it to them harder'' and alike, right?
                        Iran is pretty much in that situation, if slightly less
                        No. Just no.
                        Is this even Doctor Doom? The guy who loved football and didn't even talk about politics?

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Bessos View Post
                          Nah, that was maybe 10 years ago. But now the average first worlder feels much more symphathy for Iran than for many other countries around the world. Thanks to the internet.
                          Just look at how we are still treated, do you think Internet has fixed it? Dont think so. Maybe a few more open minded people are better informed but dont be fooled that the the opinion of nations and policies are set based on the internet. We are still considered a backward pariah nation by most. Thanks to IRI rule for the last 30 years.

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                            #28
                            Guess who benefit from all these fiasco in Guam match

                            1. Goodarzi gang who are against CQ
                            2. Some Persian gulf arab states who can not advance to WC in presence of S.Korea, Japan, Australia, Iran and Uzbekistan.
                            Look up more you can find two countries who are at odd with us and have enough motivation to pull something like that if there is a third country involved. (this is just for considering all possible scenarios and not to be taken as actual event happening in present, they can be fact or not)

                            A. KSA
                            - Political and regional stand off against Iran
                            - Years of humiliation after 2002 WC

                            B. Qatar
                            - Their self leading defeat to Uzbekistan in last WCQs
                            - Buying our best player with loads of money
                            - Having a world cup in 2022 so they need to attend at least in one WC prior that day to show they can qualify for WC without being a host nation.

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                              #29
                              Yep absolutely because a government is terrible the athletes and fans should suffer for it.

                              In the next Olympics, every American figure skater should be welcomed with "Go home baby killer" signs and pictures of Irradiated dead Japanese people. Sounds completely reasonable

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Omids View Post
                                Just look at how we are still treated, do you think Internet has fixed it? Dont think so. Maybe a few more open minded people are better informed but dont be fooled that the the opinion of nations and policies are set based on the internet. We are still considered a backward pariah nation by most. Thanks to IRI rule for the last 30 years.
                                Yes some nations are still trying to blackmail Iran. But I'm talking about the normal people, who don't fall for the ''Iran is evil'' BS anymore. I'm seeing it around me all the time (I live in Europe).

                                The views towards Iran have changed since 10 years ago. They are not positive, but they are less negative.

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