The Swedish Connection that might take Team Melli players to Europe

[Sly]

They're currently listed as Global Soccer Management players on Transfermarkt and I spoke to a in the know Hammarby source who confirmed that he was at least Taremis agent, which is why Swedish teams are speculated in the media regarding Mehdi and why that Hammarby director supposedly went to Iran. I haven't talked to Mörk himself, but all the evidence points to him at this moment. I guess time will tell.

Also, that Hammarby source @:ed Mörk on Twitter while saying he was Taremis agent and he hasn't denied it. Feel free to try to confirm it: https://twitter.com/agentmork

Ok, so then nothing is official yet! What points to the other direction though is, how this Mörk guy would even have gotten in contact with Taremi, let alone with so many players from IPL! None of them was part of the team that came to Sweden for the friendly! In any case, Hope it's true!

[Hormozgan]

Ok, so then nothing is official yet! What points to the other direction though is, how this Mörk guy would even have gotten in contact with Taremi, let alone with so many players from IPL! None of them was part of the team that came to Sweden for the friendly! In any case, Hope it's true!

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, he's got another agent working for him at GSM that is Swedish-Iranian. His name is Nima Modyr. He might be the brains of this operation.

[milad_b]

yes and no, of course top Asian players like Shinji Kagawa or Keisuke Honda have a special market value for top European teams for the Asian market, but if that was the only reason there would be a whole lot of more Arab players to cash in on the Emarati and Qatari markets. The thing is, East Asian players started to go to Europe in the late 90's (just as Iranian players), and they kept coming (unlike Iranian players) and proved themselves at smaller clubs in Bundesliga etc. which made it much safer for teams to bring them over because they'd already proven that they're good enough.

For example, we had a couple of Brazilian players that come over to Sweden and we're really successful for about 15 years ago, and they became a hot commondity. About 5-10 years ago, a lot of West African players we're brought over by an agent well connected with African academies. Some of these players are sought after players in Europe now: Daniel Amartey (played for Djurgården, bought by FC Copenhagen, wanted by Leicester atm), Ebenezer Ofori (AIK, won the midfielder of year award in Sweden), Mohamed Bangura (AIK, was bought by Celtic a couple of years ago), Teteh Bangura (AIK, was sold to Bursaspor when they played in CL) etc. All of them came relatively unknown and they all have played major roles in their teams in European competitions.

Sure, we had Daei, Mahdavikia, Hashemian etc. But besides our legends we haven't really had regular players in the Europeans leagues over a longer period of time. Yazdani, Mansourian, Bagheri, Kaebi, Navidkia tried their luck, but didn't really make a mark internationally for different reasons. And the coming generation almost didn't at all with Nikbakht, Jabbari etc. The goal should be to increase the number of European based players, but we haven't.

I think you missed the part that i've said "if

they are up to their standards

. Only 2-3 arab players that i know are up to European standards one of the is already playing in Premier league the other one had lots of offers but he said he loves to play in emirate and doesn't want to leave.

Lots of iranian players are up to same level as most japanese and korean players that are playing in top tier european leagues.

African players are top quality players. They have strength, speed and power. Also Iranian players are expensive as hell compared to african players. I just can't compare african players to iranian players. The only player that could fit with those players you mentioned is Ando, which he did get a chance to play in Premier league, when he wasn't expensive. Also african players bring lots of money to the club. Lots of African countries such as nigeria, ghana, south africa ..etc are easy to market, compared to iran.

[Ando Teymourian]

Masoud has a better technique but it doesn't necessarily make him the better player. Torabi isn't as good technically (still very decent nevertheless) but plays much more effective football than Masoud ever did, especially when he was at Torabi's age, he always moves for a purpose and is very clinical, he's also really composed for his age. I say that if he moves to Europe he can have a much bigger career over there than Masoud

They have different styles. For Masoud effective football meant causing dribbling the hell out of opponents, drawing fouls in dangerous areas of the pitch, and sending intelligent forward passes. Torabi needs to play a different game to be effective.

At any rate, Torabi hasn't done anything spectacular yet (i am sure he can and hopefully he will). I think we are forgetting how good Masoud really was in his prime years at Osasuna. Multiple surgeries on the same foot is what started his drop in form (and specifically speed. He was a much faster player before the surgeries).

[Z Joon]

They have different styles. For Masoud effective football meant causing dribbling the hell out of opponents, drawing fouls in dangerous areas of the pitch, and sending intelligent forward passes. Torabi needs to play a different game to be effective.

At any rate, Torabi hasn't done anything spectacular yet (i am sure he can and hopefully he will). I think we are forgetting how good Masoud really was in his prime years at Osasuna. Multiple surgeries on the same foot is what started his drop in form (and specifically speed. He was a much faster player before the surgeries).

They have completely different styles and play different positions, I brought him up because Kiarash jan had drawn the comparison.

Torabi is 21 so it's perfectly normal that he hasn't done anything "spectacular" yet, but he is already arguably better than what Shojaei was at his age, both with the national team and in the league. And if we compare right now, I find it hard to argue against the fact that Torabi is the better and more effective player, Masoud is on a fast decline since 2-3 years now while Torabi at only 21 is constantly showing glimpses of brilliance, averaging a goal every 2 games and scoring against the likes of Uzbekistan and Japan at such young age. And despite the fact that CQ doesn't invite other CAMs you can see that Shojaei is stuck on the bench with TM hoping to even get subbed in for few minutes while Torabi is getting some regular playing time.

I also never argued that Shojaei was solid on his prime, you can be sure that no one forgot that, but it's pretty useless to compare him on his prime with a 21 year old, what I said is that I see potential in him to succeed much more than Shojaei has in European football if he makes the right decisions, we are speaking about a player that was ranked as talented as Azmoun and Jahanbakhsh by CQ after all

[koush22]

we are speaking about a player that was ranked as talented as Azmoun and Jahanbakhsh by CQ after all

I would love to see that interview or article if you have a link! love all three

[Z Joon]

I would love to see that interview or article if you have a link! love all three

I think it's this one, on his first or one of his first call-ups

http://www.persianfootball.com/forum...=1#post2292538

[Hormozgan]

We'll see what happens. Sweden's preseason is super long so it could take at least 'til January for anything to happen there, and the Euro window opening to yield activity on the global market and get the dominos to fall.

[ali alipour]

http://www.iscanews.ir/news/547026
Not sure how reliable these things are but as I predicted it's being reported that Taremi already said no to hammarby because the money was too low. At the end it even says he might go to Persian gulf teams because of their high offers but that's also what was said last summer. Players from Persepolis will rarely go to Europe because they expect too much and won't take a challenge in a lower league.

[Hormozgan]

http://www.iscanews.ir/news/547026
Not sure how reliable these things are but as I predicted it's being reported that Taremi already said no to hammarby because the money was too low. At the end it even says he might go to Persian gulf teams because of their high offers but that's also what was said last summer. Players from Persepolis will rarely go to Europe because they expect too much and won't take a challenge in a lower league.

If its true then it's another case of Iranian stupidity at its finest. Sure, Hammarby may not be the ideal landing spot, but somebody needs to educate these players to not just think about your first contract to be the cash if you want a sustainable career. Bet on yourself, work hard and cash in through having a lengthier career. I thought this generation had learned..

I rather have him stay in Persepolis and try the Ansarifard route than Qatari/Emarati/Kuwaiti teams.

[Kiarash]

http://www.iscanews.ir/news/547026
Not sure how reliable these things are but as I predicted it's being reported that Taremi already said no to hammarby because the money was too low. At the end it even says he might go to Persian gulf teams because of their high offers but that's also what was said last summer. Players from Persepolis will rarely go to Europe because they expect too much and won't take a challenge in a lower league.

I lost my hope regarding Persepolis / Esteghlal players accepting offers from Europe.

All they care about is cash, they basically say ''be tokhmam'' if it's not Bayern or Real Madrid knocking on their doors.

We should rather support our players from youth academies like Hazami since they are much more motivated to move to Europe.

But is it true that IPL top players don't earn as much as we think they do? What I also heard is that they go by without months of salary.

[Hormozgan]

But is it true that IPL top players don't earn as much as we think they do? What I also heard is that they go by without months of salary.

Exactly, I mean it's a known fact that IPL teams don't have regular payments, so you never when you'll actually receive your salary. Plus, it's a regime that can fuck you over with taxes/politics when it wants to. So why not become professional in a real sense? I can't even....

[Zamboor]

http://www.iscanews.ir/news/547026
Not sure how reliable these things are but as I predicted it's being reported that Taremi already said no to hammarby because the money was too low. At the end it even says he might go to Persian gulf teams because of their high offers but that's also what was said last summer. Players from Persepolis will rarely go to Europe because they expect too much and won't take a challenge in a lower league.

As I've said, most of our players only want girls, lamborginis and so on not to aim for the stars on the world stage. Easiest way to get it is to stay in Iran play for Perspolis, Esteghlal cause they overpay players like who knows what. and what better you can even get more money without doing anything by going to Qatar or UAE. And in these countries girls are even easier to buy and so are lamborginis

[littlepersia17]

The Swedish Connection that might take Team Melli players to Europe

As I've said, most of our players only want girls, lamborginis and so on not to aim for the stars on the world stage. Easiest way to get it is to stay in Iran play for Perspolis, Esteghlal cause they overpay players like who knows what. and what better you can even get more money without doing anything by going to Qatar or UAE. And in these countries girls are even easier to buy and so are lamborginis

If he wanted the girls, surely he would of chosen Sweden.

Now I don't know what type of bitches are messing around in UAE or Qatar, but surely they're no better than the Swedes!

[Hormozgan]

Granted poverty makes people yearn for more and put themselves and their families in better financial positions. And that the capitalistic worldview fuels materialism, but I can't accept that 9 out of 10 IPL players think like this to earn a quick instead of longer, sustainable and healthy career.