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Steven Beitashour @ Toronto FC | 2015/16
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Originally posted by O-ZoNe View PostPerhaps. I was merely pointimg pout the dismissiveness of the MLS by some. After all you are only as strong as your best player and as weak as your weakest. The MLS I would say has the largest gap in talent, but the best 11 in the MLS one could argue could survive any league in the world and in some cases put up very decent numbers. Not many leagues can say that.
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http://www.spotrac.com/mls/toronto-fc/
Beitashour only gets paid $230,000.
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Originally posted by persiangodfather View PostIs Steven even in CQs plans? He played very well in a crucial match last night, But Rezaein is hands down better, However if there is an injury I could see Beitashour as a suitable replacement, No harm in calling him up and giving him some time
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Just for the record, I wasn't comparing MLS to IPL. There's no doubt that MLS is miles ahead of IPL in terms of everything really. I was merely stating that I have no problem watching a league that's annoying, and even then, I get quite frustrated watching MLS games.
Also, to the poster who said a league is as good as its top talents, I completely disagree. Look at all the older European players in MLS, Chinese league, and the Australian A-league, and how they are not able to perform to their full potential because the talent surrounding them is a joke. When you do see these guys perform well, it's usually because of their individual brilliance and not because they are getting service on the pitch.
In any case, good points all around.
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Originally posted by persiangodfather View PostIs Steven even in CQs plans? He played very well in a crucial match last night, But Rezaein is hands down better, However if there is an injury I could see Beitashour as a suitable replacement, No harm in calling him up and giving him some time
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Originally posted by pdot View PostBeitashour is a right foot only player who lacks speed and strength. He is not at the level of team melli unfortunately. Furthermore he is about to turn 30, which doesn't make sense for having a less skilled 32 year old right back going into the worldcup.
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Originally posted by TheWheels View PostIdk man... I mean if Toronto go on to win the MLS playoffs this season it will look really good on his resume. I'd still like to see him float around TM area, not like we have some astounding RB at the moment anyways.
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Originally posted by freak View PostJust for the record, I wasn't comparing MLS to IPL. There's no doubt that MLS is miles ahead of IPL in terms of everything really. I was merely stating that I have no problem watching a league that's annoying, and even then, I get quite frustrated watching MLS games.
Also, to the poster who said a league is as good as its top talents, I completely disagree. Look at all the older European players in MLS, Chinese league, and the Australian A-league, and how they are not able to perform to their full potential because the talent surrounding them is a joke. When you do see these guys perform well, it's usually because of their individual brilliance and not because they are getting service on the pitch.
In any case, good points all around.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...onal_team_caps
Look at their WC2014 list. The leagues you mentioned don't even come close.
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Originally posted by O-ZoNe View PostWell then look at all the players in the MLS who are active and have had national team caps...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...onal_team_caps
Look at their WC2014 list. The leagues you mentioned don't even come close.
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Yes but these are all capped players. Add international players and this is one of the most diverse leagues outside the big 5. If you look at China or even IPL their numbers are not even close.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...League_players
The link above is all foreign players in China's league. Active are bold. They have had many foreign players with no national caps...out of the active ones even less have international duty. Look how many come from nations without a single WC experience. Don't let the numbers skew your view. Quality over quantity.
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Originally posted by TheWheels View PostIdk man... I mean if Toronto go on to win the MLS playoffs this season it will look really good on his resume. I'd still like to see him float around TM area, not like we have some astounding RB at the moment anyways.
TFC is currently the highest salaried team in MLS. It's a business move for them because they have an extra 10,000 seats they have to sell tickets for.
I've watched a few games Beitashour has played in and that was my assessment. He is right footed only and is really slow and weak. He isn't to the level of team melli.
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Originally posted by O-ZoNe View PostYes but these are all capped players. Add international players and this is one of the most diverse leagues outside the big 5. If you look at China or even IPL their numbers are not even close.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...League_players
The link above is all foreign players in China's league. Active are bold. They have had many foreign players with no national caps...out of the active ones even less have international duty. Look how many come from nations without a single WC experience. Don't let the numbers skew your view. Quality over quantity.
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I agree the bigger names like Pirlo, David Villa, and Drogba certainly do, but again, their production is significantly hampered by the lack of quality around them.
And btw, I think you being from Canada makes your argument sound really biased. I judge a league's overall quality not by the best players but by the lowest common denominator. You can bring in the best talent from around the world but if you don't have any local talent, your league will mostly suck (See MLS).
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Originally posted by pdot View PostTFC is currently the highest salaried team in MLS. It's a business move for them because they have an extra 10,000 seats they have to sell tickets for.
I've watched a few games Beitashour has played in and that was my assessment. He is right footed only and is really slow and weak. He isn't to the level of team melli.
like i said a million times before he is just too slow, and more importantly a Stand-offish, Highly Risk-avert, Stay Home defender who simply doesnt suit our Pressing, High Energy team defensive tactics, especially so considering big reliance on WingBacks contribution to our counter attacks in our TM current system of play ...!!
not so sure he even have Stamina to last a Half, doing everything that is expected of him in current TM set up..!!?
still,its good that he is cap-tied to us, in case of emergency RB shortage situation, he could easily be recalled..!!
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