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    #91
    Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
    Same Kanani guy is probably not even first choice for U23 central D. Just sayin!
    Tell Carlos Queiroz to stop inviting a player who is "not even first choice for U23 central D" then. It must be weird that he makes it and starts games for senior TM, hmmm.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Z Joon View Post
      Tell Carlos Queiroz to stop inviting a player who is "not even first choice for U23 central D" then. It must be weird that he makes it and starts games for senior TM, hmmm.
      You don't get the point dude, just for sake of playing for TM doesn't mean you are ready to move to europeé In our whole history we had only one defender played in europe. So stop dreaming!

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        #93
        Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
        You don't get the point dude, just for sake of playing for TM doesn't mean you are ready to move to europeé In our whole history we had only one defender played in europe. So stop dreaming!
        Chi migi agha? As long as he doesn't screw his career by moving to Arab leagues that young, he is the future of Iran's defense. Your persistence in defending arab moves is quite interesting to me

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          #94
          Originally posted by Z Joon View Post
          Chi migi agha? As long as he doesn't screw his career by moving to Arab leagues that young, he is the future of Iran's defense. Your persistence in defending arab moves is quite interesting to me
          There are lot of emotional guys like you here, the guy had only a cap or two for TM and all of sudden he is the future. Let say what you say is right, what make him eligible to play in Europe? what is the factors? What the interest?
          Some of you guys need to wake up and follow football more realistically. In order to make a move to europe there are bunch of factors, i don't want go through whole thing but main factor is having a half decent agent and 90% of our players failing on that. They name x or y as their agent base on friendship. That so called agent doesn't even have diploma degree.
          No, i am not defending Arab leagues but i am realist, when there is no offer for our boys, i rather them be in more professional environment than crappy IPL. Of course i am against going to some crappy teams in their league. Al-Saad is decent team, Ganji in his today's interview mentioned he had no European offer so i don't see what is wrong with this move.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
            There are lot of emotional guys like you here, the guy had only a cap or two for TM and all of sudden he is the future. Let say what you say is right, what make him eligible to play in Europe? what is the factors? What the interest?
            Some of you guys need to wake up and follow football more realistically. In order to make a move to europe there are bunch of factors, i don't want go through whole thing but main factor is having a half decent agent and 90% of our players failing on that. They name x or y as their agent base on friendship. The guy doesn't have diploma degree from back home.
            No, i am not defending Arab leagues but i am realist, when there is no offer for our boys, i rather them be in more professional environment than crappy IPL. Of course i am against going to some crappy teams in their league. Al-Saad is decent team, Ganji in his today's interview mentioned he had no European offer so i don't see what is wrong with this move.
            Bebin, seems like you don't want to read the posts that displease you, if you like how the Qatari players develop in their professional environment and notice their incredible quality in their National team which consists of several players of your beloved Al-Sadd, then I can't do anything for you.

            Now try to read this post again with patience before continuing to blindly defend this move:
            http://www.persianfootball.com/forums/showthread.php?116418-Morteza-
            Pouraliganji-to-Al-Sadd&p=2349461&viewfull=1#post2349461


            And European transfer aside, I prefer having a CB from Malavan than one from the QSL If PAG continues this path he seems to have taken, you can be extremely sure that he will slowly disappear from TM and will be replaced by younger alternatives from the IPL that you think lowly of

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              #96
              Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
              There are lot of emotional guys like you here, the guy had only a cap or two for TM and all of sudden he is the future. Let say what you say is right, what make him eligible to play in Europe? what is the factors? What the interest?
              Some of you guys need to wake up and follow football more realistically. In order to make a move to europe there are bunch of factors, i don't want go through whole thing but main factor is having a half decent agent and 90% of our players failing on that. They name x or y as their agent base on friendship. The guy doesn't have diploma degree from back home.
              No, i am not defending Arab leagues but i am realist, when there is no offer for our boys, i rather them be in more professional environment than crappy IPL. Of course i am against going to some crappy teams in their league. Al-Saad is decent team, Ganji in his today's interview mentioned he had no European offer so i don't see what is wrong with this move.
              You say you prefer him to be in a decent team like Al-Sadd, but the same Al-Sadd could not beat a ''crappy IPL'' side like Foolad last year.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Kiarash View Post
                You say you prefer him to be in a decent team like Al-Sadd, but the same Al-Sadd could not beat a ''crappy IPL'' side like Foolad last year.
                Al-Saad are traditionally one of best team in west Asia, PP couldn't do jack a$$ in last 5-6 years but still they are well respected team in Asia.

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                  #98
                  A very unfortunate move accompanied by foul odors.
                  I went to Sharif University. I'm a superior genetic mutation, an improvement on the existing mediocre stock.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Z Joon View Post
                    Bebin, seems like you don't want to read the posts that displease you, if you like how the Qatari players develop in their professional environment and notice their incredible quality in their National team which consists of several players of your beloved Al-Sadd, then I can't do anything for you.
                    Now try to read this post again with patience before continuing to blindly defend this move:
                    http://www.persianfootball.com/forum...=1#post2349461
                    And European transfer aside, I prefer having a CB from Malavan than one from the QSL If PAG continues this path he seems to have taken, you can be extremely sure that he will disappear from TM and will be replaced with younger alternative from the IPL that you think lowly of
                    Qatar was always giving us hard time dude, they are not yet there to beat us but if they continue to progress it will be matter of time, plus i didn't mention their national team, i was talking about league and clubs. Clubs do well because of investment on foreign players. So you think Ganji will learn more by playing next to Xavi or i don't know who in Naft?.
                    You may laugh but in 10 years when beating some teams like Qatar will be considered as an achievement you will realize what i am saying. I am no arab lover neither their league but i am being realist. We need to wake up ..

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                      Btw, my club where I play is also a very professional team with new and modern facilities. Am I now better than most IPL youngsters? Call me up for TM, because I play in a professional environment despite it being in a 4rd division.

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                        Originally posted by Kiarash View Post
                        Btw, my club where I play is also a very professional team with new and modern facilities. Am I now better than most IPL youngsters? Call me up for TM, because I play in a professional environment despite it being in a 4rd division.
                        You don't get the point, no need to argue.

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                          Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
                          There are lot of emotional guys like you here, the guy had only a cap or two for TM and all of sudden he is the future. Let say what you say is right, what make him eligible to play in Europe? what is the factors? What the interest?
                          Some of you guys need to wake up and follow football more realistically. In order to make a move to europe there are bunch of factors, i don't want go through whole thing but main factor is having a half decent agent and 90% of our players failing on that. They name x or y as their agent base on friendship. That so called agent doesn't even have diploma degree.
                          No, i am not defending Arab leagues but i am realist, when there is no offer for our boys, i rather them be in more professional environment than crappy IPL. Of course i am against going to some crappy teams in their league. Al-Saad is decent team, Ganji in his today's interview mentioned he had no European offer so i don't see what is wrong with this move.
                          had only a cap or two? try 10, are you actually going to tell me thats not enough to judge a players talent plus a season and a half of club football for one of the top PGL teams? furthermore of those 10 caps he has, most of them were in a major tournament or against good oposition. when was the last time a youngster like him completely shined like he has?

                          the point is, that you nor anyone else can argue is that none of our players that have gone to qatar or UAE have progressed when doing so. we have had a TON of players go there and almost every single one of them (maybe with the exception of AK8) either got worse or didn't improve....should that be acceptable for fans and become a new norm?

                          people are rightfully frustrated with ganji because he admitted he wasted an opportunity to go to europe because the "conditions" weren't right....in other words he probably wasn't guaranteed playing time like he dreams about (he'll never get to europe with that kind of lazy and loser mentality) or wasn't going to get the fat salary he will get in qatar or china. so al sadd wasn't the only option you have to look at the bigger picture here.
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                            Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
                            Qatar was always giving us hard time dude, they are not yet there to beat us but if they continue to progress it will be matter of time, plus i didn't mention their national team, i was talking about league and clubs. Clubs do well because of investment on foreign players. So you think Ganji will learn more by playing next to Xavi or i don't know who in Naft?.
                            You may laugh but in 10 years when beating some teams like Qatar will be considered as an achievement you will realize what i am saying. I am no arab lover neither their league but i am being realist. We need to wake up ..
                            You don't have any base in what you're trying to defend, You don't seem to follow Asian football very much, neither QSL or the IPL. I don't know why we are constantly bringing our league in this however there is no single doubt that he will develop better in the IPL at his age than in Qatar, you are being plain stubborn just to show that you are right

                            What players have the QSL created/developed? What players have the IPL developed? Again you have not read PersianKing's long post and keep writing the same baseless things. You need to wake up my friend, not anyone else. You are persistent and it's very interesting

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                              Fans have flooded his Instagram account and urged him not to go to Qatar.

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                                We need to bear in mind that maximum effective lifespan of a player is 10 years the most, having said that for someone in their mid 20s, it is crucial to make the best out of all present options for them, which will financially secure their future and in particular their retirement years, as well as improving their football career. Now if he currently has other offers from European clubs, I am all for it, wanting him to move to Europe (Although realistically speaking, finances is still a factor, and not to be neglected) however if this is his best offer both financially and club-wise, then who are we to order him around, as in where to play?

                                Do I personally think taking Al-Saad over Iranian clubs is a wise move? Well I can't determine the move, but I sure know almost all Iranian clubs would pay way less than Al-Saad, also historically in the entire age of Professional football in Iran, almost all out players have had to struggle to get paid, for at times it's taken them years before getting fully paid. Many of IPL players lose their hunger and interest in playing their hearts out for their respective clubs, as result of these delayed payments (A very common sense behavior).

                                Despite what many of you folks believe, I still say Al-Saad is not a bad option, or at least it's an upgrade for sure from his previous crappy Chinese team Tianjin Teda F.C.

                                Our players in Iran not only do they have to cope with their salary and getting paid in a timely and professional manner, but they also have to put up with so much more social life disturbances, cases such as that of Sosha Makani's, Mojahed Khaziravi, Nikbakht, Firooz Karimi etc.

                                These people have a life too, let them enjoy their lives, while securing their future!

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