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    #61
    Originally posted by Z Joon View Post
    You do realize that the player you are speaking about failed a trial at a team which is fighting relegation currently in Iran? He has as much chance of an Iran call-up as Esteghlal Ahvaz's midfielders
    Probably because he was one structured player amongst bunch of "hardambili" players. Its just a bad fit.
    "History is a set of lies that people have agreed upon,"

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      #62
      Originally posted by Ali Doust View Post
      Probably because he was one structured player amongst bunch of "hardambili" players. Its just a bad fit.
      Yeah it's probably that, don't even think about the fact that he might have been too bad to even be a reserve Foolad player.

      I'm 100% sure he also isn't called up to Iran because he doesn't like Koobideh. A structured 2nd Swedish division and Philippines league player should be invited to TM

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        #63
        Originally posted by Z Joon View Post
        Yeah it's probably that, don't even think about the fact that he might have been too bad to even be a reserve/squad Foolad player.

        I'm 100% sure he also isn't called up to Iran because he doesn't like Koobideh. A structured 2nd Norwegian division and Philippines league player should be invited to TM
        Believe me he would have an easier time making the TM squad than any team in Iran for the sole reason that TM is the most structured squad we have in Iran. Look Im not here to campaign for the guy. All I said was that he is young and if he can prove to have certain quality which we lack at the moment, he might be able to still be on the radar. Thats all! Plus Im pretty sure he could manage to play in a league like the MLS and we all know how a lot of you are very satisfied wight the level of play from Stevie boy in that league. If anything they are on the same level at this moment.
        "History is a set of lies that people have agreed upon,"

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          #64
          Originally posted by Ali Doust View Post
          Believe me he would have an easier time making the TM squad than any team in Iran for the sole reason that TM is the most structured squad we have in Iran. Look Im not here to campaign for the guy. All I said was that he is young and if he can prove to have certain quality which we lack at the moment, he might be able to still be on the radar. Thats all! Plus Im pretty sure he could manage to play in a league like the MLS and we all know how a lot of you are very satisfied wight the level of play from Stevie boy in that league. If anything they are on the same level at this moment.
          If he was good enough for Iran's national team he wouldn't be playing in Philippines right now and wouldn't get rejected by Iranian league teams, simple as that. The fact that you say that he has more chance to make TM than any team in Iran is completely illogical.

          And you can't compare him with Beitashour. Steven would be a starter in most teams in Iran, Nazari isn't even good enough for the bench of a team fighting relegation in the IPL, there is no such thing as being "too structured" for a team, we have 50 times more structured foreign and Iranian players than him who played in solid European leagues before that are regular 11s in Iranian teams right now.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Z Joon View Post
            If he was good enough for Iran's national team he wouldn't be playing in Philippines right now and wouldn't get rejected by Iranian league teams, simple as that. The fact that you say that he has more chance to make TM than any team in Iran is completely illogical.

            And you can't compare him with Beitashour. Steven would be a starter in most teams in Iran, Nazari isn't even good enough for the bench of a team fighting relegation in the IPL, there is no such thing as being "too structured" for a team, we have 50 times more structured foreign and Iranian players than him who played in solid European leagues before that are regular 11s in Iranian teams right now.
            Azizam ina hich kodoom dalil nemishe. Their could be a million reasons why he is not in Iran right now and their could be a million reasons why is is in the Philippines. What about Reza Haghighi? a guy who went on to play in front of Messi and Argentina in the world cup is now getting cut from the team in the Philippines. Theirs always more than what meets the eyes.
            "History is a set of lies that people have agreed upon,"

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              #66
              Originally posted by Ali Doust View Post
              Azizam ina hich kodoom dalil nemishe. Their could be a million reasons why he is not in Iran right now and their could be a million reasons why is is in the Philippines. What about Reza Haghighi? a guy who went on to play in front of Messi and Argentina in the world cup is now getting cut from the team in the Philippines. Theirs always more than what meets the eyes.
              Reza Haghighi got booted out of his old IPL team and he went to Thailand, not Philippines. Thailand has teams in the ACL, and his team is a contender for the league title, finished 2nd last year, while he got cut because he got badly injured, the story is still not clear anyways.

              So you say that there could be "million reasons" why he got rejected by Foolad, "million reasons" why he only found a Philippines league team, "million reason" why he was playing in 2nd Swedish division? That's quite a lot of random reasons. Meyle khodete dadash, I always find the people that prefer to think that everything is a conspiracy rather than see logically quite interesting

              But the fact is, Omid got tested in TM in the WAFF, then never made the team again while his own club career went downhill proving he's simply not good enough for that level, there are hundreds of other players that currently have more chance to be called up than him. I could also sit here and say like you that Adel Kolahkaj of the 16/16 team in the IPL, Esteghlal Ahvaz, should've been called up and that he wasn't because he was bald all of his career. There's a limit to all reasoning, Omid isn't good enough

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                #67
                Originally posted by Z Joon View Post
                Reza Haghighi got booted out of his old IPL team and he went to Thailand, not Philippines. Thailand has teams in the ACL, and his team is a contender for the league title, finished 2nd last year, while he got cut because he got badly injured, the story is still not clear anyways.

                So you say that there could be "million reasons" why he got rejected by Foolad, "million reasons" why he only found a Philippines league team, "million reason" why he was playing in 2nd Swedish division? That's quite a lot of random reasons. Meyle khodete dadash, I always find the people that prefer to think that everything is a conspiracy rather than see logically quite interesting

                But the fact is, Omid got tested in TM in the WAFF, then never made the team again while his own club career went downhill. He's simply not good enough for that level, there are hundreds of other players that currently have more chance to be called up than him
                Sharmande. I made a mistake with Thailand and The Philippines. Like you said "meyle khodet". Everyone will have a different philosophy when it comes to putting a squad together. I for one would like to work with those brought up in the structural youth system and you would prefer khiabooni players more. No one can really say who's right and who's wrong here.
                Btw. Im sure he could've found himself elsewhere to play rather than the Philippines. Im sure him being have filipino might've had a factor to play their. Anyways all the best to him and hopefully we'll hear more good stuff to come from him in the future.
                "History is a set of lies that people have agreed upon,"

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                  #68
                  Someone needs to tell queiroz to stop calling up khiabooni mehdi torabi because hes taking the spot of the real gem omid nazari. Who cares if torabi was easily dribbling bundesliga japanese defenders nazari was brought up in a structured youth system.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by ali alipour View Post
                    Someone needs to tell queiroz to stop calling up khiabooni mehdi torabi because hes taking the spot of the real gem omid nazari. Who cares if torabi was easily dribbling bundesliga japanese defenders nazari was brought up in a structured youth system.
                    Maybe who knows. Its all about results at the end of the day. If our Khiaboonis win a major tournament at any level then Ill say take Khiabooni over structured players until then. No ones theory can be proven right or wrong.
                    "History is a set of lies that people have agreed upon,"

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Ali Doust View Post
                      Maybe who knows. Its all about results at the end of the day. If our Khiaboonis win a major tournament at any level then Ill say take Khiabooni over structured players until then. No ones theory can be proven right or wrong.
                      I would like to see a game between the khiaboonies (azmoun, jb, ezzatolahi, torabi, taremi, ghafouri, ando, ebrahimi, amiri, milad mohammadi etc) and the current crop of structured players (nazari bros, couple lower league swedish guys and some who will play in first divison this year, 4/5th divison germany etc). I wonder what the score would be...

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                        #71
                        We can say all we want about Nazari, but the fact of the matter is that when he played for TM he did just as well as Ebrahimi and others (obviously excluding Nekou and Ando).

                        Saying he wasn't good enough for Foolad might be right, but it could very well be wrong. If PGL wasn't a league full of politics and dalal baazi I would fully agree with Z Joon, but the fact that we are talking about the PGL means that there could be other reasons for his exclusion. Remember, as soon as the foreign coach left Steel Azin, a guy like Ferydoon Zandi saw less and less field time and was eventually cut. Our league does not really have clean hands.

                        Anyways, good luck to Omid wherever he is. He clearly likes TM, and shows his support on Insta and in other ways. If he ever gets invited to TM, I don't know.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by ali alipour View Post
                          I would like to see a game between the khiaboonies (azmoun, jb, ezzatolahi, torabi, taremi, ghafouri, ando, ebrahimi, amiri, milad mohammadi etc) and the current crop of structured players (nazari bros, couple lower league swedish guys and some who will play in first divison this year, 4/5th divison germany etc). I wonder what the score would be...
                          One game doesn't prove anything. Win a major competition and then we'll talk.
                          Aslan when did I say that Nazari should be invited and guys like Torabi shouldn't?? or are you just trying to be funny to gain some brownie points.We're having a "structural" conversation. Oh! Im sorry I forgot you don't do structural. Hamin kafiye biyay 2ta joke begi gets some laugh out of it. Thats the problem with our people can't have a convo without some "khiabooni" jokes and being all unprofessional. Chi begire az oon Ferdowsipour who I have yet to witness one professional interview come from him ta dige berese to you guys. The only thing us Iranians are very good at is being unprofessional.
                          "History is a set of lies that people have agreed upon,"

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Ali Doust View Post
                            One game doesn't prove anything. Win a major competition and then we'll talk.
                            Aslan when did I say that Nazari should be invited and guys like Torabi shouldn't?? or are you just trying to be funny to gain some brownie points.We're having a "structural" conversation. Oh! Im sorry I forgot you don't do structural. Hamin kafiye biyay 2ta joke begi gets some laugh out of it. Thats the problem with our people can't have a convo without some "khiabooni" jokes and being all unprofessional. Chi begire az oon Ferdowsipour who I have yet to witness one professional interview come from him ta dige berese to you guys. The only thing us Iranians are very good at is being unprofessional.
                            So you think iran would win the asian cup with lower level swedish and german guys? Why isnt afghanistan winning the asian cup? Thats basically the crop of their team.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by ali alipour View Post
                              So you think iran would win the asian cup with lower level swedish and german guys? Why isnt afghanistan winning the asian cup? Thats basically the crop of their team.
                              Honestly Im not even going to reply to that. Badbakht mardome Afghan. Yek omr Joke mardome Iran shodan. Cant even compare the two. Apples and oranges here.
                              "History is a set of lies that people have agreed upon,"

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Ando Teymourian View Post
                                We can say all we want about Nazari, but the fact of the matter is that when he played for TM he did just as well as Ebrahimi and others (obviously excluding Nekou and Ando).

                                Saying he wasn't good enough for Foolad might be right, but it could very well be wrong. If PGL wasn't a league full of politics and dalal baazi I would fully agree with Z Joon, but the fact that we are talking about the PGL means that there could be other reasons for his exclusion. Remember, as soon as the foreign coach left Steel Azin, a guy like Ferydoon Zandi saw less and less field time and was eventually cut. Our league does not really have clean hands.

                                Anyways, good luck to Omid wherever he is. He clearly likes TM, and shows his support on Insta and in other ways. If he ever gets invited to TM, I don't know.
                                AT Jan, let's be logical 2 seconds here. Why should Skocic be impressed and offer a contract to players from all nationalities and backgrounds from Kouemaha, Chago, Mesaric, Bayrami, Nong, Padovani, Chimba etc... etc... If it was a shady domestic coach alright, but let's not be unnecessarily all controversy-loving now. Omid Nazari wasn't good enough for Foolad who's fighting relegation right now, might be hard for some to digest but that's just a fact. Not because he preferred burgers over joojeh kabab.

                                He's not a gem who deserves to play in Bundesliga, which makes the fact that he was rejected by a bottom IPL team shocking. No, his level is shown in his current career path, he comes out of a 2nd Swedish division team and is currently playing for a Philipines league team, it speaks for itself. I can't see him start in any of the current IPL teams anyways, let alone make TM

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