Iran @ AFC Futsal Championship 2016

[04041374]

I would like to add two comments:

(1) Iran's coaching staff. I am not happy about it.
The losing coach from previous Futsal tournament is sitting on Iran's bench? Is he the Mayeli-Kohan of Futsal???
Iran has better coaches such as Shams. Who selected the present coach???

Nazemolsharieh is coaching Iran's futsal team for the first time. He replaced Jesus Candelas, who coached our team in the AC 2014

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iran_national_futsal_team_managers

[Kavian]

iran was Iran, Persia was a western placed name on Iran. Reza forced to world to call us for Iran cause we are Iran

Persia was not a western placed name! .. We were the "Persian Empire" all throughout our history. .. there was no so called "West" at the time of Cyrus!

Reza Shah's action, although it appeared to have some merit at the time, but proved to be one of the biggest miscalculated moves in our history.

It separated us from our history and identity and brought an end to "Persia". The consequence of that action is seen today in our fight to preserve the name "Persian Gulf". Bunch of Arabs are claiming that there is no more Persia and that the name should be changed to "Arabian Gulf". An action that can easily be characterized as violation of our sovereignty.

Albateh ... this is not the only miscalculation in our history. Pages and pages of indecisiveness and ignorance attest to why we are who we are today and the state of nation we have!

[ali alipour]

Persia was not a western placed name! .. We were the "Persian Empire" all throughout our history. .. there was no so called "West" at the time of Cyrus!

Reza Shah's action, although it appeared to have some merit at the time, but proved to be one of the biggest miscalculated moves in our history.

It separated us from our history and identity and brought an end to "Persia". The consequence of that action is seen today in our fight to preserve the name "Persian Gulf". Bunch of Arabs are claiming that there is no more Persia and that the name should be changed to "Arabian Gulf". An action that can easily be characterized as violation of our sovereignty.

Albateh ... this is not the only miscalculation in our history. Pages and pages of indecisiveness and ignorance attest to why we are who we are today and the state of nation we have!

The Greeks were the west. They advanced the term Persia-persica otherwise Iran was called something along the lines of eran-eranshahr-arya-aryashahr by Iranians even in ancient times.

[Zamboor]

The Greeks were the west. They advanced the term Persia-persica otherwise Iran was called something along the lines of eran-eranshahr-arya-aryashahr by Iranians even in ancient times.

bingo and the persian empire wasnt called the persian empire. every empire had its own name.

[ehsan singapore]

keep it about futsal please

[mahestan]

bingo and the persian empire wasnt called the persian empire. every empire had its own name.

While you are at it, why don't you let them take the Persian Gulf name along with Abu Musa, Greater and Lesser Tunb islands...

[teammelli91]

I want to play Saudi Arabia in the quarterfinals.

[Nader25]

While you are at it, why don't you let them take the Persian Gulf name along with Abu Musa, Greater and Lesser Tunb islands...

Abu mussa chieh dige, the right name is Amoo Mussa

[TheBoss]

Just one post about this

Persia comes from Pars. Iranians created that word, not west, That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. It's true that it is wrong to use it to refer to the whole country though, as it was name of just one region, one that still exists today. (I give you guys a hint, it's capital is Shiraz)

Iranians have called their country Iran for thousands of years (Eran Shahr in Middle Persian and Aryinam Vaejeh in Avestan) the name comes from the Gathas, the Zoroastrian holy book. But each region had a name as well. One of the regions was Pars. It became the dominate name because thats the region where early powerful Iranian dynasties came to power from, like the Achamenids, Sassanids. And it remained in history.

[ali alipour]

Just one post about this
Persia comes from Pars. Iranians created that word, not west, That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. It's true that it is wrong to use it to refer to the whole country though, as it was name of just one region, one that still exists today. (I give you guys a hint, it's capital is Shiraz)
Iranians have called their country Iran for thousands of years (Eran Shahr in Middle Persian and Aryinam Vaejeh in Avestan) the name comes from the Gathas, the Zoroastrian holy book. But each region had a name as well. One of the regions was Pars. It became the dominate name because thats the region where early powerful Iranian dynasties came to power from, like the Achamenids, Sassanids. And it remained in history.

No one said that the west created the word, but rather that they were the ones that used it to refer to the whole land of what is Iran. Some people here seem to think that reza shah changed the name from Persia to Iran whereas the name of the land was always Iran. Persia was a region in modern day Khuzestan and Fars/Pars where Persian/Parsis/Persis lived. Thats where the term persian gulf comes from but it was never the name of the country.

[Kavian]

When "Persia" became "Iran"
This article is a part of "Persia or Iran" by Professor Ehsan Yarshater, published in Iranian Studies, Vol. XXII, No.1, 1989.


In 1935 the Iranian government requested those countries which it had diplomatic relations with, to call Persia "Iran," which is the name of the country in Persian.

The suggestion for the change is said to have come from the Iranian ambassador to Germany, who came under the influence of the Nazis. At the time Germany was in the grip of racial fever and cultivated good relations with nations of "Aryan" blood. It is said that some German friends of the ambassador persuaded him that, as with the advent of Reza Shah, Persia had turned a new leaf in its history and had freed itself from the pernicious influences of Britain and Russia, whose interventions in Persian affairs had practically crippled the country under the Qajars, it was only fitting that the country be called by its own name, "Iran." This would not only signal a new beginning and bring home to the world the new era in Iranian history, but would also signify the Aryan race of its population, as "Iran" is a cognate of "Aryan" and derived from it.

The Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs sent out a circular to all foreign embassies in Tehran, requesting that the country thenceforth be called "Iran." Diplomatic courtesy obliged, and by and by the name "Iran" began to appear in official correspondence and news items.

At first "Iran" sounded alien (for non-Iranians), and many failed to recognize its connection with Persia. Some (Westerners) thought that it was perhaps one of the new countries like Iraq and Jordan carved out of the ruins of the Ottoman Empire, or a country in Africa or Southeast Asia that had just been granted independence; and not a few confused it with Iraq, itself a recent entity.

As time passed and as a number of events, like the Allied invasion of Iran in 1941 and the nationalization of the oil industry under Prime Minster Dr Mohammad Mosaddeq, put the country in the headlines, the name "Iran" became generally accepted, and "Persia" fell into comparative disuse, though more slowly in Britain than in the United States. - See more at: http://www.iranchamber.com/geography....WPMEHapC.dpuf

[CHaMiLLionaire]

^ wtf is all this, leave this for futsal...go PM or create a general thread to discuss the name of Iran.

Our country is currently known as the Islamic Republic of Iran, whether I like it or you like it....that's your opinion, but leave this thread for Futsal.

[ali alipour]

When "Persia" became "Iran"
This article is a part of "Persia or Iran" by Professor Ehsan Yarshater, published in Iranian Studies, Vol. XXII, No.1, 1989.


In 1935 the Iranian government requested those countries which it had diplomatic relations with, to call Persia "Iran," which is the name of the country in Persian.

The suggestion for the change is said to have come from the Iranian ambassador to Germany, who came under the influence of the Nazis. At the time Germany was in the grip of racial fever and cultivated good relations with nations of "Aryan" blood. It is said that some German friends of the ambassador persuaded him that, as with the advent of Reza Shah, Persia had turned a new leaf in its history and had freed itself from the pernicious influences of Britain and Russia, whose interventions in Persian affairs had practically crippled the country under the Qajars, it was only fitting that the country be called by its own name, "Iran." This would not only signal a new beginning and bring home to the world the new era in Iranian history, but would also signify the Aryan race of its population, as "Iran" is a cognate of "Aryan" and derived from it.

The Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs sent out a circular to all foreign embassies in Tehran, requesting that the country thenceforth be called "Iran." Diplomatic courtesy obliged, and by and by the name "Iran" began to appear in official correspondence and news items.

At first "Iran" sounded alien (for non-Iranians), and many failed to recognize its connection with Persia. Some (Westerners) thought that it was perhaps one of the new countries like Iraq and Jordan carved out of the ruins of the Ottoman Empire, or a country in Africa or Southeast Asia that had just been granted independence; and not a few confused it with Iraq, itself a recent entity.

As time passed and as a number of events, like the Allied invasion of Iran in 1941 and the nationalization of the oil industry under Prime Minster Dr Mohammad Mosaddeq, put the country in the headlines, the name "Iran" became generally accepted, and "Persia" fell into comparative disuse, though more slowly in Britain than in the United States. - See more at: http://www.iranchamber.com/geography....WPMEHapC.dpuf

[Keano]

I keep seeing new posts in this thread and I hit the thread, just to browse through the irrelevant comments.

Could you folks kindly proceed the argument in the general forum please? I mean I could understand 1-2 off-topic posts being exchanged, however to go on with pages of deviated subject is a little inconsiderate

[Kavian]

I keep seeing new posts in this thread and I hit the thread, just to browse through the irrelevant comments.

Could you folks kindly proceed the argument in the general forum please? I mean I could understand 1-2 off-topic posts being exchanged, however to go on with pages of deviated subject is a little inconsiderate

Fair enough my friend!

... but it is not like this thread contained so much quality that deviating from it for a little while was really inconsiderate! .. the deviation proved to be educational for most readers, specially the younger ones!