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    Originally posted by YeCheesi Tala View Post
    We do not need a "world class coach". I don't even consider CQ a world class coach. He is at most a very good coach. He is over hyped in Iran for no reason (took us to WC2014 and 4th in AC). He has failed at big stages with Real Madrid; his own country's national team does not want him.

    Do I believe Iran can get a good coach if CQ leaves? Yes.
    Will that coach be able to take Iran to WC2018? About the same chance as under CQ

    You forget Iran has quality players in Asia. Getting to the stage we are at has a lot to do with the talent pool in Iran.

    Also, I do not think his attention seeking vibe is for TM first. CQ knew very well after working with Iran for 4-5 years how the federation works. Him signing the second contract knowing the conditions in Iran is his fault. The Sports ministry are not in good relationship with CQ and that only hurts TM. Creating this drama also places the fans and players into mental stress for no reason.

    In a professional work place if you complain so much and talk trash about your boss you would be given your pay check and either get laid off or fired.
    CQ complaining and attention grabbing is first to save his own reputation. All his "passion" or "gherat" for TM is just a show because he knows how gullible Iranians can be.
    no good coach would wanna coach in iran because its NOT PROFESSIONAL and the federation is ran by bunch of dehatis. Why dont you get that?

    CQ is the best we can get because he already knows our players and team. A new coach (which wont come to Iran) would have to start all over again and try to understand our players and then implement his style. This means not enough time for WC 2018
    and this is all assuming the Iranian drama wont hold him back, which we all know will. So be logical and realize we cannot get a half decent foreign coach and we dont have any Iranian coaches that are decent to coach on world stage.

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      Originally posted by EKBATAN View Post
      no good coach would wanna coach in iran because its NOT PROFESSIONAL and the federation is ran by bunch of dehatis. Why dont you get that?

      CQ is the best we can get because he already knows our players and team. A new coach (which wont come to Iran) would have to start all over again and try to understand our players and then implement his style. This means not enough time for WC 2018
      and this is all assuming the Iranian drama wont hold him back, which we all know will. So be logical and realize we cannot get a half decent foreign coach and we dont have any Iranian coaches that are decent to coach on world stage.
      I am not in anyway against CQ as the coach and hope I did not come off that way. What I am tired of is all the Tom and Jerry back and forth going on with CQ and the SM. We keep hearing news of CQ quarrel with the SM, and his decision for resignation. If he is not confident in his ability to do the job with the resources available he should not have taken the position in the first place.

      I also think that with enough money put forward a good coach will come to Iran the same way CQ did. Football is no different than any other profession. There are many friends of mine who are excellent engineers and are working at companies that are complete trash when it comes to treatment of workers and professional etiquette. They stay at these positions because of the competitive salary and bonuses offered (some stay because of portfolio building opportunity).

      Iran currently is #1 team in Asia (at least by Fifa standards), very talented pool of players, and high chance of making it to WC. There is only so many countries that can make it to WC. No good coach who is looking for opportunity would let this go (considering good pay). Also, SM will try its best to hire the best coach they can just so they can pooseh CQ bekabonand.

      Will the new coach's adjustment be hard? Yes. But, if the new coach is placed in a coaching staff that has an Iranian or foreign coach (Branko) that understands Iranian mentality than it would be no different than having CQ.

      I want CQ to stay. But, if he is not confident in his ability to do the job and keeps firing empty bullets for resignation he should gtfo.
      EAT. SLEEP. TM. REPEAT.

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        Originally posted by YeCheesi Tala View Post
        I am not in anyway against CQ as the coach and hope I did not come off that way. What I am tired of is all the Tom and Jerry back and forth going on with CQ and the SM. We keep hearing news of CQ quarrel with the SM, and his decision for resignation. If he is not confident in his ability to do the job with the resources available he should not have taken the position in the first place.

        I also think that with enough money put forward a good coach will come to Iran the same way CQ did. Football is no different than any other profession. There are many friends of mine who are excellent engineers and are working at companies that are complete trash when it comes to treatment of workers and professional etiquette. They stay at these positions because of the competitive salary and bonuses offered (some stay because of portfolio building opportunity).

        Iran currently is #1 team in Asia (at least by Fifa standards), very talented pool of players, and high chance of making it to WC. There is only so many countries that can make it to WC. No good coach who is looking for opportunity would let this go (considering good pay). Also, SM will try its best to hire the best coach they can just so they can pooseh CQ bekabonand.

        Will the new coach's adjustment be hard? Yes. But, if the new coach is placed in a coaching staff that has an Iranian or foreign coach (Branko) that understands Iranian mentality than it would be no different than having CQ.

        I want CQ to stay. But, if he is not confident in his ability to do the job and keeps firing empty bullets for resignation he should gtfo.
        Overall I agree with you. The problem is that if CQ leave (We all know that he will not be Iran NT head coach for whole his life and he will leave some day) the majority fans afraid that the federation with pressure of current Youth Affair and Sport hire one of the shity vatani coaches or motorgazia.

        Realistically I do not think Daei, Ghotbi, Ghalenoei, and Mayeli Kohan have any chance forever, and they must not have either. They all had their chance but failed. The likes of Golmohammadi, Veisi, and Mansourian are not better either. Felan Khaili koochektaraz ina hastan ke hata baraye sarmorabigari TM candid beshan. Faraki has strong chance (I do not think anyone accepts Faraki for Iran NT). Because of having someone like Faraki or other motorgazia, many fans support CQ at any cost even when he is wrong.

        I remember Ahmadreza Abedzadeh had almost your ideas in one of the interviews right after Sweden friendly. He said to Adel Ferdousipour "Do not worry. The replacement of CQ will not be the people that you are afraid to see as TM head coach. His replacement will be a decent foreign coach."

        Anyway IMO Carlos Queiroz (CQ) is a good coach for Iranian standard and he is the safest and best choice until 2018. I hope he stays until 2018 and we all need to be united for the rest of WCQ 2018 matches.

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          Originally posted by YeCheesi Tala View Post
          I am not in anyway against CQ as the coach and hope I did not come off that way. What I am tired of is all the Tom and Jerry back and forth going on with CQ and the SM. We keep hearing news of CQ quarrel with the SM, and his decision for resignation. If he is not confident in his ability to do the job with the resources available he should not have taken the position in the first place.

          I also think that with enough money put forward a good coach will come to Iran the same way CQ did. Football is no different than any other profession. There are many friends of mine who are excellent engineers and are working at companies that are complete trash when it comes to treatment of workers and professional etiquette. They stay at these positions because of the competitive salary and bonuses offered (some stay because of portfolio building opportunity).

          Iran currently is #1 team in Asia (at least by Fifa standards), very talented pool of players, and high chance of making it to WC. There is only so many countries that can make it to WC. No good coach who is looking for opportunity would let this go (considering good pay). Also, SM will try its best to hire the best coach they can just so they can pooseh CQ bekabonand.

          Will the new coach's adjustment be hard? Yes. But, if the new coach is placed in a coaching staff that has an Iranian or foreign coach (Branko) that understands Iranian mentality than it would be no different than having CQ.

          I want CQ to stay. But, if he is not confident in his ability to do the job and keeps firing empty bullets for resignation he should gtfo.
          "They stay at these positions because of the competitive salary and bonuses offered (some stay because of portfolio building )"

          CQ doesn't need to build his portfolio he is a professional and as a professional (who is not money hungry ) he places his work and results over and above anything. CQ right now is the ONLY highest ranked person in Iran that truly gives a crap about our football. NOBODY else does. And he is killing himself to force the idiots who run our football to invest something in infrastructure and facilities. If CQ goes and a "portfolio building "
          Coach comes kiss our football goodbye !....

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            Originally posted by K. Nader View Post
            His daily fighting? Take some time to understand what he's fighting for.

            It's honestly beyond me how there are some people that see CQ as the problem.
            I don't see CQ as problem at all, i say when he came to Iran first day he knew he has to deal with shit federation, some shitty people, even if he didn't know, he found out late and he decided to stay, but fighting constantly is not a good thing for team and it affects team, i don't say he doesn't have right, of course he does.

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              If King Carlos leaves then ... Manuel Pellegrini for TM

              Nah JK That would never happen in a billion years

              We need to do whatever is possible to keep CQ if we want to qualify for WC 2018

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                Not to get political. But - The Iranians who criticize Carlos are cut from the same cloth as the Iranians who criticized the Shah. They stubbornly believe something better is out there, but they're just not sure what it is. And once CQ is gone, they'll be lamenting the "good ol CQ days".

                Our culture is so backwards in some respects.

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                  Originally posted by ramingeles2000 View Post
                  Not to get political. But - The Iranians who criticize Carlos are cut from the same cloth as the Iranians who criticized the Shah. They stubbornly believe something better is out there, but they're just not sure what it is. And once CQ is gone, they'll be lamenting the "good ol CQ days".

                  Our culture is so backwards in some respects.
                  What about the Iranians who criticized Mossadegh?

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                    CQ resigning ! - سرمربی تیم ملی به سیم آخر زد/ کی*روش: فردا استعفایم را تقدیم...

                    Originally posted by ramingeles2000 View Post
                    Not to get political. But - The Iranians who criticize Carlos are cut from the same cloth as the Iranians who criticized the Shah. They stubbornly believe something better is out there, but they're just not sure what it is. And once CQ is gone, they'll be lamenting the "good ol CQ days".

                    Our culture is so backwards in some respects.
                    That is not really a fair analogy. Things that are keeping Iran back:

                    - IR
                    - People who didn't live during Shah and talk as if they did

                    Shah was a dictator. If you are anti-IR as it seems then you can't be pro-Shah. Liberty is important, revolutions fail but the failure does not legitimise the dictatorship as the way to go. How can anyone live in a free Western society and enjoy rights like freedom of speech and democratic voting yet criticise the Iranian population in the 70s for wanting the same?
                    Team faghat PERSPOLIS

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                      CQ is a good coach and we should keep him.

                      BUT life goes on if he decides to retire, we have enough talent to qualify for the 2018 World Cup. Can't rely on a single person to lead the entire campaign, we are independent enough to make use of our qualities. Team Melli still goes on even if Queiroz leaves, some here act as if there is no Team Melli anymore when he's gone. He's just a coach and he gets millions to do his job properly. At the end it's still a business.

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                        if CQ goes, i can next to guarantee you his replacement will either be a useless iranian coach or best case scenario, an average "C" grade, ME Journeyman Foreigner (eastern european probably)..!!

                        and i'm nearly certain, we will narrowly miss out on WC2018 regardless of abundance of young and old talent @ our disposal and the Trend of Making a WC/Missing the Next will continue..!

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                          Originally posted by Kiarash View Post
                          CQ is a good coach and we should keep him.
                          BUT life goes on if he decides to retire, we have enough talent to qualify for the 2018 World Cup. Can't rely on a single person to lead the entire campaign, we are independent enough to make use of our qualities. Team Melli still goes on even if Queiroz leaves, some here act as if there is no Team Melli anymore when he's gone. He's just a coach and he gets millions to do his job properly. At the end it's still a business.
                          We had probably the most talented team in the U-23 Asian Qualifiers too. What about our clubs? Every year they get beaten by Arab teams, badly. See what happened? It's a system we need, and CQ brings a system. Talent gets you not very far, I'm sorry to say.

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                            Originally posted by Tehranto View Post
                            We had probably the most talented team in the U-23 Asian Qualifiers too. What about our clubs? Every year they get beaten by Arab teams, badly. See what happened? It's a system we need, and CQ brings a system. Talent gets you not very far, I'm sorry to say.
                            I'm sure there are decent European coaches who would take the job considering the salary and potential of our team.

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                              Originally posted by YeCheesi Tala View Post
                              I am not in anyway against CQ as the coach and hope I did not come off that way. What I am tired of is all the Tom and Jerry back and forth going on with CQ and the SM. We keep hearing news of CQ quarrel with the SM, and his decision for resignation. If he is not confident in his ability to do the job with the resources available he should not have taken the position in the first place.
                              I also think that with enough money put forward a good coach will come to Iran the same way CQ did. Football is no different than any other profession. There are many friends of mine who are excellent engineers and are working at companies that are complete trash when it comes to treatment of workers and professional etiquette. They stay at these positions because of the competitive salary and bonuses offered (some stay because of portfolio building opportunity).
                              Iran currently is #1 team in Asia (at least by Fifa standards), very talented pool of players, and high chance of making it to WC. There is only so many countries that can make it to WC. No good coach who is looking for opportunity would let this go (considering good pay). Also, SM will try its best to hire the best coach they can just so they can pooseh CQ bekabonand.
                              Will the new coach's adjustment be hard? Yes. But, if the new coach is placed in a coaching staff that has an Iranian or foreign coach (Branko) that understands Iranian mentality than it would be no different than having CQ.
                              I want CQ to stay. But, if he is not confident in his ability to do the job and keeps firing empty bullets for resignation he should gtfo.
                              i agree with being tired of the games of leaving not leaving every few months....but you are dead wrong about the highlighted part above. We are not #1 in Asia, we are 4th at best, dont bring FIFA rankings into this as everyone knows its complete bs. Korea, Japan, Australia are better than us and a handful of Arab teams that we SHOULD be better than, end up giving us a hard time. So no its no guarantee or good chance we make WC, we miss every other one and the ones we make we narrowly make them.

                              We dont have a huge talent pool either, we have players with potentials but they are not prepared mentally and physically. They can be but its very raw talent that needs to be developed using proper professional methods, which we dont have in Iran.

                              What CQ brings to the team is the charisma and discipline and a way of dealing with the Iranians that most other coaches might not even understand. You gotta realize CQ adapted to Iran's ways, he understands how we think, live, etc...which is important in finding out how to MANAGE your players. For example, you cant bring in Guardiola and think he can fix us....because his expectations are something else, he wont understand our mentality and the way things are done in Iran, he wont have the patience, etc....so it takes a SPECIAL person to take on the role of Iran's coach. someone who knows how to deal with our emotions, passionate fans, screwed up system, religion, unprofessional journalists, joke of a press and facilities we have. Its not a matter of having a top coach, but one that can deal with our unique situation which isnt the same as most other countries.

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                                Originally posted by Kiarash View Post
                                I'm sure there are decent European coaches who would take the job considering the salary and potential of our team.
                                Azmoun said in his interview - last he remembers - CQ wasn't paid for 6 months. This is Iran we're talking about. Not everyone will embrace it.

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