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    #46
    I like Branko as a coach but he failed a key test as Team Melli coach. While his results were fantastic, the unity of the team fell apart under his watch and he took zero action. With Branko, you'll get exactly what Hashemian described in his interview a short while ago. You may see us temporarily play a nice brand of football in the coach's vision but it ends there. Branko will not raise his voice and make valid demands (as CQ has) nor can he handle the egos of the team should they develop.
    Last edited by K. Nader; 02-13-2016, 08:56 PM.

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      #47
      Originally posted by K. Nader View Post
      I like Branko as a coach but he failed a key test as Team Melli coach. While his results were fantastic, the unity of the team fell apart under his watch and he took zero action. With Branko, you'll get exactly what Hashemian described in his interview a short while ago. You may see us temporarily play a nice brand of football in the coach's vision but it ends there. Branko will not raise his voice and make valid demands (as CQ has) nor can he handle the egos of the team should they develop.
      If CQ leave and you get Branko Ivankovic over likes of Daei, Ghotbi, Mayeli Kohan, Ghalenoei, Faraki, etc you should really thank god.

      Branko Ivankovic is currently more experienced compare to the time he was the national team head coach. He expelled likes of Sadeghian due to discipline problems. He even did not put Taremi in the squad for one game because he was late for one of the practice sessions.

      As you said his teams play a nice brand of football in the coach's vision. During his tenure as TM head coach many fans did not like him so much. When he left they were happy but when those fans saw the results of Daei, Ghotbi, Ghalenoei in TM they started to like Branko and fans like him so much now.

      CQ is the safest choice for WCQ 2018 as I said before but it seems that Youth Affairs and Sports is not going to help to fix the issues such as training camp of senior team, cloth, friendly matches, etc and no matter how loud CQ raises his voice. CQ knew that when he renewed his contract. I am also sick of hearing his departure every a few months. We must wait to see who will be the new president of IFF and hopefully it is a better one. If he can bring more money and facility to the football and he is willing to continue with CQ until 2018 then CQ should continue. If not, I would take Branko Ivankovic but I doubt Perspolis fans will accept to give him to the national team.

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        #48
        Ivankovic had the Karimis, Mahdavikias, Daeis, Rezaeis and etc in his team and did jack with them. Branko can fuck off, he's overrated as hell.

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          #49
          Originally posted by TheWheels View Post
          Ivankovic had the Karimis, Mahdavikias, Daeis, Rezaeis and etc in his team and did jack with them. Branko can fuck off, he's overrated as hell.
          Regard the bolded part, it is sad to see that someone uses those words when he is talking about at least one of the best TM coaches in the history.

          It was not his fault that he had Daei (he was not always at his prime), Mahdavikia, Karimi, Hashemian, and Rahman Rezaei. Look at current Perspolis team. He is doing very well with the squad that no one could imagine it.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Sarbaze-Vatan View Post
            Regard the bolded part, it is sad to see that someone uses those words when he is talking about at least one of the best TM coaches in the history.

            It was not his fault that he had Daei (he was not always at his prime), Mahdavikia, Karimi, Hashemian, and Rahman Rezaei. Look at current Perspolis team. He is doing very well with the squad that no one could imagine it.
            Give Quieroz that team and he guaranteed would've done better. And it's the F word, it's really not a big deal I hear it at least 20 times everyday. Anyways Hashemian confirmed Ivankovic's limitations too.

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              #51
              If queiroz does leave it would be really dumb to bring Branko in. His style is a complete 180 from queiroz's and there isn't enough time until final round of qualifiers to implement it

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                #52
                Originally posted by TheWheels View Post
                Give Quieroz that team and he guaranteed would've done better. And it's the F word, it's really not a big deal I hear it at least 20 times everyday. Anyways Hashemian confirmed Ivankovic's limitations too.
                I read one of the last interviews Hashemian had and he said Branko is a knowledgeable coach. It is not like CQ had a weak squad in Asian Cup. He had Jahanbakhsh, Azmoun, Dejagah, Gucci, Nekounam, Ando, etc but we lost in the quarter final. On the other hand Branko did not have Hashemian, Zandi at AC 2004 but finished third. Do not want to compare Branko with CQ because CQ is obviously better coach and he qualified Iran NT to the WC 2014 with one of the weakest squads in the history.

                Listen Bro, I like to have CQ as our head coach until 2018. I like to have even better and more famous coaches than him after his tenure as TM head coach but be realistic. Youth Affair and Sports is not going to help the federation to fix issues such as training camp, cloth, friendly matches, etc until CQ is the head coach. That is why we hear his departure every a few months and most fans are really frustrated. They are not going to hire a better coach or at least someone at his level after his era because they have to pay at least what they are currently paying CQ. In that case, you have two choices. The first one is vatani coaches. The second one is unpopular, cheaper, but good foreign coaches such as Branko Ivankovic, Kranjcar, Stielike, etc. Which one do you go with? I go with second one.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by ali alipour View Post
                  If queiroz does leave it would be really dumb to bring Branko in. His style is a complete 180 from queiroz's and there isn't enough time until final round of qualifiers to implement it
                  The first game of the final round is exactly 5 months after the last game in the March.

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                    #54
                    Branko did very poorly with the player material he had during the World Cup 2006. In comparison to what CQ had in 2014, Branko should have made the Last 16 without any excuses. All the players were in their primes and yet he couldn't beat Angola. I don't want Branko as our coach, he is overrated. His only accomplishment was the bronze medal at the Asian Cup 2004, which I doubt it was from his coaching abilities, rather the individual talent from the team.

                    Legionnaires at WC 2006:
                    1.Rezaei (Messina, Serie A)
                    2.Mahdavikia (HSV, Bundesliga)
                    3.Zandi (Kaiserslautern, Bundesliga)
                    4.Karimi (Bayern München, Bundesliga)
                    5.Navidkia (Bochum, Bundesliga)
                    6.Hashemian (Hannover, Bundesliga)

                    Legionnaires at WC 2014:
                    1.Haghighi (Sporting Covilha, Segunda Liga)
                    2.Jahanbakhsh (NEC, Eredivisie)
                    3.Davari (Braunschweig, Bundesliga)
                    4.Shojaei (Las Palmas, Liga Adelante)
                    5.Ghoochannejhad (Charlton Athletic, Championship)
                    6.Dejagah (Fulham, Premier League)

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                      #55
                      Iran under Branko was amazing at the 2004 Asian Cup. The only reason we failed to reach the final is because China cheated.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Kiarash View Post
                        Branko did very poorly with the player material he had during the World Cup 2006. In comparison to what CQ had in 2014, Branko should have made the Last 16 without any excuses. All the players were in their primes and yet he couldn't beat Angola. I don't want Branko as our coach, he is overrated. His only accomplishment was the bronze medal at the Asian Cup 2004, which I doubt it was from his coaching abilities, rather the individual talent from the team.
                        Legionnaires at WC 2006:
                        1.Rezaei (Messina, Serie A)
                        2.Mahdavikia (HSV, Bundesliga)
                        3.Zandi (Kaiserslautern, Bundesliga)
                        4.Karimi (Bayern München, Bundesliga)
                        5.Navidkia (Bochum, Bundesliga)
                        6.Hashemian (Hannover, Bundesliga)
                        Legionnaires at WC 2014:
                        1.Haghighi (Sporting Covilha, Segunda Liga)
                        2.Jahanbakhsh (NEC, Eredivisie)
                        3.Davari (Braunschweig, Bundesliga)
                        4.Shojaei (Las Palmas, Liga Adelante)
                        5.Ghoochannejhad (Charlton Athletic, Championship)
                        6.Dejagah (Fulham, Premier League)
                        Navidkia was injured all the time and he did not play at WC 2006. Zandi missed the Mexico game due to injury. Both Karimi and Hashemian had a long injury before the WC. It was unknown whether they will be available for the WC or not. Karimi could not play more than 60 minutes for any WC game. Despite all of those problems, Branko should have done better at the WC. His only mistakes were keeping old Daei and unwilling to test other keepers. I am not seeing those mistakes from him in Perspolis and he said that he is more experienced now. We got the best results under Branko such as winning the Asian games, finishing third place at Asian Cup 2004, qualifying to the WC 2006, reaching 15 place in the Fifa ranking, etc.

                        Branko Ivankovic did not have Navidkia, Hashemian, and Zandi in Asian Cup 2004. Daei was past his prime. His only stars were Mahdavikia, Karimi, and young Nekounam. We had many young players at that tournament such as Borhani, Alavi, Kameli, Kaebi, Satar Zare, Kazemian, Mobali, etc. We played excellent football and finished third. None of the next coaches could get that result in Asian cup. Never forget that Zico at post conference for final match said that he is very happy that he is not facing Iran in the final.

                        IMO both Ghalenoei and Queiroz had stronger Asian cup squad than Branko Ivankovic but their teams could not reach top 4 at Asian cup.

                        Do not get me wrong. CQ is the safest choice until 2018 but it seems that Youth Affairs and Sports is not going to help to fix the issues such as training pitch, friendly match, cloth etc because of CQ. The Kafashian federation can not bring more money and facility to the football. If this continues even after the IFF election and CQ leave (I hope not) then I take Branko Ivankovic over vatani coaches or many foreign coaches.

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                          #57
                          I dont know why but I really wouldnt mind a Branko + Daei partnership at all.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Spyder View Post
                            I dont know why but I really wouldnt mind a Branko + Daei partnership at all.
                            No.

                            Branko + Veisi partnership is better.

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                              #59
                              Branko has no management skills. Like Nader said on the last page, the locker room went to hell under his leadership. CQ has the balls to call out players, despite how good they may be, for their big Irani egos and disrespect.

                              Tactics is important, but maintaining respect is the initial step to even having players listen to you. All the players listen to CQ and take incredible pride when playing for him. We'll probably never see such a professional locker room atmosphere ever again.

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                                #60
                                CQ knows all the quality players in Iran now. He is incredibly respected and liked by all TM players. His tactics and formations are finally understood by TM players. He can certainly take us to WC again. The transformation of TM that he has undertaken after the AC has been steadily progressing. The TM I see under his helm in the coming years is capable of beating anyone in Asia and beyond. We really need to clinch to him and provide the necessary means for him to succeed! It would be a great mistake that will most certainly cost us the qualification to Russia 2018 if we let him go.
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