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Originally posted by Nokhodi View Post
Really? Moshiri has not come across as someone who’s into anything Iranian at all.Team Meli Iran
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"I will never be able to say good bye to Iran. I have a feeling of belonging to this country and to the people." - Carlos Queiroz
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He's just one of many iranian-american or iranian-british or iranian-antipodean or iranian-canadian wealthy people who chooses money over other things,
Is he worse than the likes of Kia Joorabchian?
All of these iranian origin billionaires are hugely talented people. The all-consuming hunt for material wealth and the soma it gives these folk is what I find strange. Do you need it? Is it worth it?
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Originally posted by Azmoun_shireh View Post
source?
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Originally posted by Team Melli Fan View Post
I think that in practice, this rumour was on weaker ground than some of the other premier league clubs. It feels to me that people just linked Azmoun to Everton because of Moshiri, there turned out to be no substance whatsoever
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Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View PostHe's just one of many iranian-american or iranian-british or iranian-antipodean or iranian-canadian wealthy people who chooses money over other things,
Is he worse than the likes of Kia Joorabchian?
All of these iranian origin billionaires are hugely talented people. The all-consuming hunt for material wealth and the soma it gives these folk is what I find strange. Do you need it? Is it worth it?
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Originally posted by Team Melli Fan View Post
With Emiratis, Saudis, and Qataris buying up world football, I think it’s good to have at least one Iranian doing the same to counter them
Just that none of them, Moshiri included, have any actual link to Iran. Whereas all the Persian gulf countries are linked to their country intrinsically
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Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
There's loads of Iranian origin people agha - 4 wealthy Iranian-Americans in the premier league, or about to enter, as we speak
Just that none of them, Moshiri included, have any actual link to Iran. Whereas all the Persian gulf countries are linked to their country intrinsically
Regardless, we come nowhere close to the likes of the Emiratis’ influence with City Football Group, the Saudis’ influence with Public Investment Fund, or the Qataris’ influence with Qatar Sports Investments.
Also, the Iranian guy at Newcastle is just a Saudi stooge, it’s the Saudis who are really owning the team. & Jahm Najafi’s bid for Tottenham hasn’t come to fruition. Farhad Moshiri at Everton and a far reach for Behdad Eghbali at Chelsea are the closest we have to Premier League team ownership, and Chelsea is mostly run by Todd Boehly.
The point I’m making here is I don’t mind Iranians abroad owning European clubs, so long as they aren’t linked to the Islamic Republic. It’s good to counter the Persian Gulf states’ influence in world football. And if the Iranian owners don’t show party bazi / nepotism / favoritism in bringing in Iranian players, I don’t really care. But if they do, like Mehdi Bayat at Charleroi, then kudos to them.
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Originally posted by Team Melli Fan View Post
You want owners linked to the Islamic Republic of Iran, as opposed to Iranians abroad? I prefer the latter.
Regardless, we come nowhere close to the likes of the Emiratis' influence with City Football Group, the Saudis' influence with Public Investment Fund, or the Qataris' influence with Qatar Sports Investments.
Also, the Iranian guy at Newcastle is just a Saudi stooge, it's the Saudis who are really owning the team. & Jahm Najafi's bid for Tottenham hasn't come to fruition. Farhad Moshiri at Everton and a far reach for Behdad Eghbali at Chelsea are the closest we have to Premier League team ownership, and Chelsea is mostly run by Todd Boehly.
The point I'm making here is I don't mind Iranians abroad owning European clubs, so long as they aren't linked to the Islamic Republic. It's good to counter the Persian Gulf states' influence in world football. And if the Iranian owners don't show party bazi / nepotism / favoritism in bringing in Iranian players, I don't really care. But if they do, like Mehdi Bayat at Charleroi, then kudos to them.
Bayat is to some extent the only exception
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Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
Agha I don't know how this got so off-track with this accusation but my point is that to all intents and purposes, all of these owners except Bayat have given up their "Iranian-ness" and thanks to Eshalic republic they are effectively generating and spending their wealth through their British or American citizenship. They may have Iranian origins but that's basically it
Bayat is to some extent the only exception
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They even offered to host our Female TM, but the a**holes back in Iran forced the team to cancel because of that link.
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Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
Agha I don't know how this got so off-track with this accusation but my point is that to all intents and purposes, all of these owners except Bayat have given up their "Iranian-ness" and thanks to Eshalic republic they are effectively generating and spending their wealth through their British or American citizenship. They may have Iranian origins but that's basically it
Bayat is to some extent the only exception
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Farhad Moshiri (British-Iranian): Everton
Behdad Eghbali (Iranian-American): Chelsea
Mehdi Bayat (French-Iranian): Charleroi
Nader Dejbakhsh (Iranian-American): Orange County FC
Ali Mansouri (Iranian-American): Los Angeles Blues
Ata Pirmoradi (Swedish-Iranian): Pars FC Orebro
Iranians in Philippines: Pasargad FC
Iranians in Sweden: Parsian Vasby
We’re unfortunately not at the level of the Arab countries along the Persian Gulf where some rich domestic sheikh can buy a European team without having foreign citizenship or residence. Any club-purchasing achievement that is done for Iran will have to be done alongside a foreign flag unless if the individual is tied to the Islamic Republic.
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Originally posted by Team Melli Fan View Post
We need to be realistic here, every Iranian who owns a foreign club has foreign citizenship/connections. No fresh off the boat Iranian with sole Iranian citizenship is going to own a foreign team, unless it’s some Sepahi.
Farhad Moshiri (British-Iranian): Everton
Behdad Eghbali (Iranian-American): Chelsea
Mehdi Bayat (French-Iranian): Charleroi
Nader Dejbakhsh (Iranian-American): Orange County FC
Ali Mansouri (Iranian-American): Los Angeles Blues
Ata Pirmoradi (Swedish-Iranian): Pars FC Orebro
Iranians in Philippines: Pasargad FC
Iranians in Sweden: Parsian Vasby
We’re unfortunately not at the level of the Arab countries along the Persian Gulf where some rich domestic sheikh can buy a European team without having foreign citizenship or residence. Any club-purchasing achievement that is done for Iran will have to be done alongside a foreign flag unless if the individual is tied to the Islamic Republic.
I'm no longer sure what we are disagreeing about
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Moshiri isn't the most unpopular British-Iranian for Everton fans
That prize goes to this guy:
https://twitter.com/search?q=joorabc...d_query&f=live
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I think it is a painful fact but these succesful iranians are not loyal to other iranians. If I thought I could make a decent profit and/or bring in an iranian to my team I would do it. Bayat bros are a perfect example of this. But they are an exception. Its not like they didn't think of themselves in the process. They didnt hand out any unfair starting 11 post because someone was iranian. There are examples of both successes and failures for iranians in Charleroi. In interviews they always make this perfectly clear too! My point is: good business and taking care of other iranians are not mutually exclusive.
On the other hand one may argue that all iranian players at all age levels and so on are so terrible that its not worth investing in them. Personally I find this argument suspect. We dont see ANY help being given by these billionaires. At all. The case is so strong that we dont even see them bringing in talented youth to youth academies of the club THEY OWN. Its not just a matter of them not giving a sh-t about senior players. They dont give a sh-t about iranians at all. So the argument that its because of iranians lack of talent don't hold. Hazbavi guy is just one of hundreds of examples. Why didnt they bring him in? He is considered a huge talent.
Now over to the question of ones connection to Iran and how this will affect the loyalty and solidarity towards other iranians: There are plenty and tons of iranians outside iran their whole life that would do what I believe is the right thing: To stick together and contribute to each others success. Why are these billionaire owners different? Maybe they just care about themselves and don't give a sh-t about other people, especially iranians? This seems the most logical conclusion to me at least.
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Treasury's sanctions guys are reviewing Moshiri re: Russian links with Usmanov:
https://www.theguardian.com/football...an-understands
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