Syria, Iraq & North Korea have players in Serie A....where is our youth heading?

[EKBATAN]

Major exaggerating going on here. Azmoun has started more than half of his games, has been very influential In his team. The same goes for jahanbakhsh and ansarifard. At this point I'm also fairly certain that besides juventus the Italian league has been on a steady decline and purchases lots of washed up players, while Russian league gets stronger every year.
There is so much bias because Russia isn't a "western" European country. Do me a favor and watch some games between their big 6 or so teams. Lots of quality players, high physicality, high pace, lots of hustle.
Mohammadi will soon be a regular player for Terek as well, and Terek is a big and respected team, not a one hit wonder like Rostov. Quit being emotional and appreciate that we finally have been making a great increase in our European players.


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The point of this thread wasnt to say our players in Europe are worse but merely pointing out a fact that we cant export youth to the top 4 leagues. We did with Ezatollahi and it was short lived they are in 4th div. now.

I dont get why people on this forum are in denial that they wouldnt do back flips if we had a player in a serie a youth

[Zamboor]

Ekbetan got a point, and all of you guys raging about Ali Adnan. Just face it. He is having a better career then all of our players. 21 games so far for Udinese so far. Udinese, you guys do understand its Udinese right? We dont have any players in Osasuna, Fulham or Bolton today. We have one in Az, and two in Rostov, and one in Greece etc. You guys might not like Serie A.

But there is a difference in playing in Serie A, La Liga, Premier League, Bundesliga and Ligue 1. Compared to Greek League, Turkish Super League, Dutch League etc.

Its sad that we dont have a single player in the top 5 divisions in the world. Why is that? well that is a big question with no simple answer. I wish it was different but today it aint. It aint different.

[tmfan]

Ali Adnan is a starter. According to this list on bigsoccer, he has started at least 15 times so far. I don't know why he is getting playing time though. He was a becnhwarmer in Turkey...
http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/...#post-33813326

Here is a list of players who have made at least 15 league starts this season in the top 15 first tier leagues and top 4 second tier leagues (Spain/Germany/England/Italy).

[SIZE=3]Japan
Inui           Eibar          Spain
Kagawa         Dortmund       Germany
Haraguchi      Hertha BSC     Germany
Muto           Mainz          Germany
Sakai          Hamburger SV   Germany
Hasebe         Frankfurt      Germany
Kiyotake       Hannover       Germany
Sakai          Hannover       Germany
Okazaki        Leicester      England
Nagatomo       Inter          Italy
Honda          Milan          Italy
Havenaar       ADO Den Haag   Netherlands
Kubo           Young Boys     Switzerland
Minamino       RB Salzburg    Austria
Australia
Leckie         Ingolstadt     Germany
Griffiths      Roda JC        Netherlands
Behich         Bursaspor      Turkey
Degenek        1860 Munich    Germany (second division)
Holland        Duisburg       Germany (second division)
Luongo         QPR            England (second division)
Wright         Preston NE     England (second division)
Davidson       Huddersfield   England (second division)
South Korea
Koo Ja-cheol   Augsburg       Germany
Hong Jeong-ho  Augsburg       Germany
Kim Jin-su     Hoffenheim     Germany
Ki Sung-yueng  Swansea        England
Suk Hyun-jun   Porto/Setubal  Portugal
Iran
Jahanbakhsh    AZ Alkmaar     Netherlands
Ansarifard     Panionios      Greece
Haji Safi      FSV Frankfurt  Germany (second division)
Uzbekistan
Akhmedov       Krasnodar      Russia
Denisov        L. Moscow      Russia
Iraq
Adnan          Udinese        Italy[/SIZE]

[Rooyintan]

Serie A is not like before. It is only good for Pizza and Pasta eaters

Our boys should aim for La Liga, Bundesliga, Premier League followed by Dutch League, Russian League, Portoguese League, Greek League.
In Asia they should aim for K-League, J-League and Chinese League.

[perspolis#1]

I dont get why people on this forum are in denial that they wouldnt do back flips if we had a player in a serie a youth

I think its because we've grown to expect more. We had players on Bayern before. Why would one serie a youth make us go nuts? There was a half Iranian on the genoa youth and nobody seemed to go crazy for him.

Maybe Juve youth/Bundesliga youth or a team that develops youth like Ajax.

If you want to be mad about our lack of exporting ability be mad at the dalals who trap our players in Iran

[pdot]

The IFF is mismanaged from top to bottom. There is no success without a complete overhaul of everyone involved and that won't happen without a real change in our government.

[AsOen5]

you guys are stupid, adnan plays for main Udinese squad, he's not in the youth.

And even if the north korean and syrian guy are in the youth, it still shows they're better than our players. Gimme a break with mentioning buncha 2nd division players as your excuse.

Keep living the blind dream of our players being wanted by Arsenal and Chelsea cuz some random Iranian source tells you

JB plays at Alkmaar and he is better than any of theese players.
Jalinous plays at Ingolstadt youth and Alexander Samizadeh was even in the first team roster of his team. I guess there are more iranians in youth leagues but it means nothing. My Cousin also played at high level youth football but stopped with football. So it really does mean nothing at all.

[EKBATAN]

Ekbetan got a point, and all of you guys raging about Ali Adnan. Just face it. He is having a better career then all of our players. 21 games so far for Udinese so far. Udinese, you guys do understand its Udinese right? We dont have any players in Osasuna, Fulham or Bolton today. We have one in Az, and two in Rostov, and one in Greece etc. You guys might not like Serie A.

But there is a difference in playing in Serie A, La Liga, Premier League, Bundesliga and Ligue 1. Compared to Greek League, Turkish Super League, Dutch League etc.

Its sad that we dont have a single player in the top 5 divisions in the world. Why is that? well that is a big question with no simple answer. I wish it was different but today it aint. It aint different.

The amount of insecurity from the kids on this forum is unbelievable. Everyone is attacking me like im saying something crazy. Its a simple fact that we have a player in his 20s who was a German champion few years ago and now riding bench in AL-SHOTOR league. I guess thats more prestigious to these delusional folks of PFDC these days.
Its funny Barzagli was on that same team too with Dejagah and he's like 6-7 yrs older, look where he ended up in UCL final and where Ashkan is today. its a fukkin joke

[Tehranto]

Ekbetan got a point, and all of you guys raging about Ali Adnan. Just face it. He is having a better career then all of our players. 21 games so far for Udinese so far. Udinese, you guys do understand its Udinese right? We dont have any players in Osasuna, Fulham or Bolton today. We have one in Az, and two in Rostov, and one in Greece etc. You guys might not like Serie A.
But there is a difference in playing in Serie A, La Liga, Premier League, Bundesliga and Ligue 1. Compared to Greek League, Turkish Super League, Dutch League etc.
Its sad that we dont have a single player in the top 5 divisions in the world. Why is that? well that is a big question with no simple answer. I wish it was different but today it aint. It aint different.

The self-loathing Iranians are showing their true colours. They have an abysmal team and talents.

Azmoun has been in Russia since he was 19. Jahanbaksh was the best player of the 2nd best league in Holland and pushed his team to the top division. Karim is one of the steals of this years Greek league and one of the top scorers. Ezzatollahi is 19 and will be the best player in Asia before he's 25. Adnan was a benchwarmer in Turkey; he got noticed because he was an overaged star in U-20. This guy will burn out in 3-4 years, watch. His real age is 28 or so. These are just facts.

Where did you get he played 21 games for Udinese (bottom-dwelling Seria A team, they should hope they don't get relegated)? Wikipedia? Iraqi cheats even have Nashat Akram - a "31 year old" who has retired for 2 years now. What a joke. Instead of being in his prime, he's a 37-38 year old who lied about his age and did well for their "underage" teams. This is the team you praise?

Rostov would destroy Udinese. We have players competing for the top in very, very good leagues (Russia, Holland, Greece) and you have some lowly people come and praise a cheat player from a much weaker National Team. This is the definition of self-loathing. Seriously, don't show what you think of yourselves and vomit this garbage on a public forum and cast this on the best national team in Asia.

Let Iraq beat Vietnam and Thailand comfortably and not rely on luck to get them out of the weakest group last round. Then praise their one incidental player who will not be in the Seria A by the end of next year.

[Camran khan]

Why are you guys hyping Udinese so much!? They're a bottom level team in Serie-A! Azmoun is playing is the current best team in Russia, they'd destroy Udinese, Jahanbakhsh is playing in one of the top teams of the Dutch league, he can easily transfer from there to the big leagues, Adnan is getting some playing time in some sh!t team in a league that has a name that dazzle people.

[EKBATAN]

you guys seriously smokin crack if you think russian and dutch teams are better than Serie A

[Tehranto]

you guys seriously smokin crack if you think russian and dutch teams are better than Serie A

Seria A is currently stronget than Russia but not like in the year's past as far as gap. But Rostov would beat Udinese with ease, no question. They most likely will lose to Juventus, however.

Please read next time.

[EKBATAN]

The self-loathing Iranians are showing their true colours. They have an abysmal team and talents.

Azmoun has been in Russia since he was 19. Jahanbaksh was the best player of the 2nd best league in Holland and pushed his team to the top division. Karim is one of the steals of this years Greek league and one of the top scorers. Ezzatollahi is 19 and will be the best player in Asia before he's 25. Adnan was a benchwarmer in Turkey; he got noticed because he was an overaged star in U-20. This guy will burn out in 3-4 years, watch. His real age is 28 or so. These are just facts.

Where did you get he played 21 games for Udinese (bottom-dwelling Seria A team, they should hope they don't get relegated)? Wikipedia? Iraqi cheats even have Nashat Akram - a "31 year old" who has retired for 2 years now. What a joke. Instead of being in his prime, he's a 37-38 year old who lied about his age and did well for their "underage" teams. This is the team you praise?

Rostov would destroy Udinese. We have players competing for the top in very, very good leagues (Russia, Holland, Greece) and you have some lowly people come and praise a cheat player from a much weaker National Team. This is the definition of self-loathing. Seriously, don't show what you think of yourselves and vomit this garbage on a public forum and cast this on the best national team in Asia.

Let Iraq beat Vietnam and Thailand comfortably and not rely on luck to get them out of the weakest group last round. Then praise their one incidental player who will not be in the Seria A by the end of next year.

learn to read before typing an essay

i already said in my post that JB, Azmoun and Jahanbakhsh are our future and they are good. So i dont get why everyone is wasting their time trying to justify them being in a better position. My post was about our youth in general and the lack of progress we've made over the years. Compared to even 10 yrs ago we are in a worse condition and you guys are in deep denial.

[EKBATAN]

Seria A is currently stronget than Russia but not like in the year's past as far as gap. But Rostov would beat Udinese with ease, no question. They most likely will lose to Juventus, however.

Please read next time.

Udinese has had issues this year but they did beat Juve at the beginning of the season. They have also beat the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal couple of yrs ago when they were top 5 team. Not sure where your confidence of Rostov a team that is barely making EL next season beating a team like Udinese comes from is beyond me. Lets not even mentio AZ who got dead last in EL group which was relatively easy. Again this is all irrelevant to my post because it had nothing to do with Udinese, JB, Azmoun and them...yet you guys keep going on and on about it.

[pdot]

The only advantages a top tier club provides is better facilities and slightly better coaching. Smaller clubs give you more attention and money.

In our young players money > facilities. There is nothing wrong with that either.