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    #61
    Originally posted by Karimi 8 View Post
    Well done Azmoun! He made his goal look so easy today. He will be one of our top scorers soon and will continue to grow. At his age his accomplishments are outstanding and he is in Europe. He is not hyped, he really is a natural, instinctual, born goal scorer. Looking forward to seeing him develop even more and sign with a big club.
    party pooper here 💩,..again in this game he demonstrated a display of ballhugging which almost cost Iran a goal on Iran's 6th goal..Ansarifard was all alone and Azmoun had plenty of time to pass the ball to him which would've been an easy tap in, instead decided to try to score from a difficult angle which luckily bounced off the post back to Ansarifard... I know he's a goal scorer but he needs to play smarter, this was Kyrgyzstan and we got plenty of chances to score, would be a different story vs high calibre teams in which we would get far fewer chances and ballhugging can cost us the game..Azmoun has done this before and it's time for CQ to intervene to get things on the right track

    ستايشگر آموزگاری هستم که انديشيدن را
    به من بياموزد و نه انديشه ها را. زرتشت

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      #62
      Originally posted by ramingeles2000 View Post
      hilarious seeing how young this board has become. azmoun doesn't hold a candle to daei yet. daei was an absolute beast in his prime. he was one of the most intelligent players iran has ever produced. he had average athleticism (besides his great leaping ability) but used his smarts to create space and find space where other players couldn't. his positioning was absolutely world class as was his passing. look at any of iran's attacks between 1996-2003 and he was involved on the play in most instances. this guy got an amateur start and started playing at about age 25 and he still made it to bayern munich at a time when iranian players had zero visibility and zero respect in the world. when azmoun scores goals against chelsea in the champions league, we can begin to talk. for now, let's stop the hype. azmoun has a long, long way to go before he can be compared to the greatest forward asia's ever produced.
      Wait for Azmoun to have 2-3 bad games and see how opinions will change. One day he is bache soosool and overrated, next day he is better than Daei and too good for his club. I invite you all to read through the Azmoun thread, a true "rollercoaster"....
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        #63
        stop bashing daei

        Originally posted by The View Post
        The ridiculous match ups against Maldives, Guam, Nepal that allowed Daei to inflate his numbers like that are not going to be around for Sardar.
        Seeding has changed so has the quality of football in Asia.
        Edit since people seem to have forgotten the actual numbers:
        highest scoring games
        Sri Lanka: 5
        Nepal: 4
        South Korea: 4
        Loas: 4
        Guam: 4
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ed_by_Ali_Daei
        Azmoun is more skilled than daei with his foot but daei had superior aerial ability although sardar is good in the air as well. Azmoun is definitely very promising to be our best striker ever but I doubt he will break daei's record. nakata, sami al jaber and any other star from asia never came close to daei's record and those same players played against punching bags like guam and maldives. People forget daei's four against S. Korea and his champion's league goals. I like both daei and sardar but I doubt ali daei's record will ever be broken not even by sardar. Sardar is definitely a class above all others in team melli right now and with jahanbakhsh and dejagha we could have a daei azizi bagheri combo all over again. yay.

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          #64
          Originally posted by 04041374 View Post
          So far, Azmoun has scored 7 NT goals in 2016. The samt amount of international goals as in 2015. If he continues to score 7-8 NT goals in a year, he will surpass Daei's record in about 10-12 years.

          This is only for granted if he remains our #1 striker, in the same shape or even better and injury-free.
          he has 15 goals now. if he scores 7/yr for 12 years that's a total of 99 goals and he still won't have 100 goals let alone break daei's record.

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            #65
            Originally posted by 04041374 View Post
            So far, Azmoun has scored 7 NT goals in 2016. The samt amount of international goals as in 2015. If he continues to score 7-8 NT goals in a year, he will surpass Daei's record in about 10-12 years.
            This is only for granted if he remains our #1 striker, in the same shape or even better and injury-free.
            Is hard to break Daei's record but that doesn't matter what is matter it is probably first time in god knows how many years we have 3 or 4 strikers who each can be starter with Azmoun having an edge compare to Karim, Taremi and Gucci and you can add Mehrdad Mohammadi, Kaveh Rezaei to this list which in any normal situation they could make the team but because of depth they can't even be part of 23 players.

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              #66
              Are you really trying to compare the two? First of all, they are of different generation in which Daei was at a very difficult time for Iran in regards to the revolution and the Iran-Iraq war. Sardar didn't have to go through any of that. If you actually think about it, it's mind boggling how amazing it is for Daei to score 110 goals throughout the difficulties he and the country faces.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Sharkie View Post
                Are you really trying to compare the two? First of all, they are of different generation in which Daei was at a very difficult time for Iran in regards to the revolution and the Iran-Iraq war. Sardar didn't have to go through any of that. If you actually think about it, it's mind boggling how amazing it is for Daei to score 110 goals throughout the difficulties he and the country faces.
                Lol, dude what are you talking about?
                Daei joined the national team in 1993. He hadn't had any difficults scoring goals because of the revolution (1979) or the war (1980-1988).
                I say it's exactly the opposite.
                Football is always in progress, which makes it faster and better and more competetive almost weekly. It's Azmoun who is convincing and delivering in a tougher time than Daei.
                Also, Daei had Azizi around him who assisted a huge ass load of goals for him.
                Not taking credits away from Ali Daei here but you should reconsider your arguments.
                Last edited by Ali.Karimi79; 06-09-2016, 05:31 AM.
                IRI's politics is no different than handling a pressure cooker ..... As the pressure builds up, you slowly let the steam out just a tad bit so that you don't see overflow, and once the pressure from below is less, you put the lid down again and raise the temperature.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The View Post
                  Sri Lanka: 5
                  Nepal: 4
                  South Korea: 4 <<< I'll give you that one.
                  Loas: 4
                  Guam: 4

                  Bagheri:
                  Sri Lanka: 4
                  Nepal: 4
                  Maldives: 7 (In that legendary game, Daei scored only 2 out of 17 goals )
                  Guam: 6

                  IRI's politics is no different than handling a pressure cooker ..... As the pressure builds up, you slowly let the steam out just a tad bit so that you don't see overflow, and once the pressure from below is less, you put the lid down again and raise the temperature.

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                    #69
                    What's the use in comparing a target man to a finisher? Daei was 6'4 and especially for the 1990s taller than everyone else on the field. Heading will always be his strength over Azmoun. For Azmoun's height his physicality and reaction time is what makes his heading great.

                    Azmoun can do more with his feet. He'll be an Higuain/Benzema before he'll ever be Daei. Two different players IMO

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by 04041374 View Post
                      So far, Azmoun has scored 7 NT goals in 2016. The samt amount of international goals as in 2015. If he continues to score 7-8 NT goals in a year, he will surpass Daei's record in about 10-12 years.
                      This is only for granted if he remains our #1 striker, in the same shape or even better and injury-free.
                      barring injury, he is going places in world football Daie could only dream of..! and im not just saying that cause he has been in great form and on a tear of late..!!
                      i didnt really follow his career until very late in his Omid TM spell shortly prior to his transfer to Rubin in mid 2013..!! but remember finally seeing a full game of him in a pre-season Rubin friendly and witnessing first hand his exceptional brilliance, in game he didnt even score, nor played the full 90...!!
                      Immediately after that game i wanted him in our WC traveling team, saying that regardless of his youth and lack of experience, (barring AK8) we simply didnt have any other such caliber iranian footballer...! (just go back and read through the old Azmoun @ Rubin Thread..!)
                      off course, many here discounted those comment and claimed he was not no where near the TM picture, especially so late in run up to WC..!
                      Later he was called up to TM pre WC camp and clearly proved to be already a class above more than 80% of CQ invitees at that time..!
                      as we all know by now, ultimately he (along with AK8) was eventually got left behind, all so foolishly by CQ, who instead opted for even more defensive depth by taking a bunch of hapless, even injured invitees like beykzadeh or Beita..!!
                      one could only ponder the possible advancement in his club career, had he made the WC roster and gotten some minutes in games like the Bosnia which we fell behind early and didnt have any legit offensive option on the bench to bring in and try n change our fortunes...!?

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