25 player TM List vs Qatar & China

[Z Joon]

So each one of Varzesh3, Navad and Tasnim News give a different list? That never happened before, I would still stick with Navad's list they are usually the most reliable.

[BacheLot]

Mohammad Ansari, Saeid Aghaei
are these guys CBs..?
ps
sounds like none are the Officially Announced List...!! each site seem to be guessing the list based on who they saw practicing and who was sitting out..!!
or this could well be another CQ Concealing the final list Tactic ke media maro ham hala geej karde..??

[Sly]

It would be a disaster if Mohammadi and Gucci are out but Taremi and Rezaeian are in!

What signal does this give to our players' motivation to go to Europe?!! Wasn't it CQ himself who always encouraged the players to go to Europe??!!

If this list is really true, I sense a lot of double standard by CQ!

[Sarbaze-Vatan]

Guys, Torabi is currently practicing with TM. According to Terek Grozny website, Mohammadi is invited to the Iran NT. Gucci will be added based on what I read. So the final list is currently 25 players based on the following sources. Two more players will be crossed off the list soon. IMO it should be Aghaei, and Taremi

http://www.esteghlali.com/dignews/di...-------------/

[Z Joon]

Ok read Tasnim news article. Updated to 25 players until we get the last 2 names that are crossed off.

[Sly]

Guys, Torabi is currently practicing with TM. According to Terek Grozny website, Mohammadi is invited to the Iran NT. Gucci will be added based on what I read. So the final list is currently 25 players based on the following sources. Two more players will be crossed off the list soon. IMO it should be Aghaei, and Taremi

http://www.esteghlali.com/dignews/di...-------------/

Now that's more like it! I would not expect Torabi and these 2 legionners to be cut off in favor of some other less deserving players!

[Sarbaze-Vatan]

Mohammad Ansari, Saeid Aghaei
are these guys CBs..?
ps
sounds like none are the Officially Announced List...!! each site seem to be guessing the list based on who they saw practicing and who was sitting out..!!
or this could well be another CQ Concealing the final list Tactic ke media maro ham hala geej karde..??

Regard Ansari, his main position is LB but he can also play CB. Aghaei is a left back.

[Z Joon]

This is the thing, varzesh3 is claiming Milad Mohammadi is out and give a 24 player list. Navad gives also 24 players and Tasnim 25...

Both Navad and varzesh3 say Mohammadi is crossed off.

Edit: Let's leave it to the preliminary 25 player list for now.

[maniei]

That's a killer team (25 man list). We are strong in every position. I can't wait to see them in action in the quali.
Now it's only really hard to cross two off. When was the last time we had this problem?

I would cross of

-Taremi: He is too similar to Ansarifard, and currently he is behind Karim imo

-Ebrahimi: He might be a good replacement in defensive midfield, but he is too medicore. We have Ando (he is becoming the old again) and Said, and if really one needs to be replaced we still have Hajisafi and PAG.

Comment on Aghaei:
We need him, he is our future LB!
I have seen few of him, but what I saw was promosing. With him in LB we can pull Mohammadi to LM we he is of much higher use (same for Hajisafi).

[BacheLot]

It would be a disaster if Mohammadi and Gucci are out but Taremi and Rezaeian are in!

What signal does this give to our players' motivation to go to Europe?!! Wasn't it CQ himself who always encouraged the players to go to Europe??!!

If this list is really true, I sense a lot of double standard by CQ!

CQ's new GiveNgo, Counter Attacking Offense is currently highly dependent on Taremi's (still defensively stout )physical presence in there..! he is unlikely to be cut, So long he puts his head down and do everything asked of him in training camp and doesnt bring any of his bache-nanegi o soosooly shenanigans or any create controversy around TM..!!

Similar sentiments apply to Rezaeeian, but he is much more likely to be cut as soon as we have more Depth in RB position once Ghafoori's form improve or that Daniel kid gets more experience and familiarity with CQ's system ..!


Sure, CQ has always encouraged his players to move abroad and challenge themselves in better EU football leagues than staying IPL and Ayrab leagues..! but he has Not(nor would ever) Guarantee them team inclusion ahead of a more talented, Better Fitting to his desired System of play Domestic footballer..!! especially one who has behaved appropriately so far in TM training camps and proved themselves there a more worthy player..!

All that is Guaranteed to players who Transfer to a more challenging European league is The Awarded Overall Benefit of Doubt ..!! and the Natural Quicker improvement to that player's overall Pedigree as footballer that results from playing in a more organized and challenging European Team..!
in general if an EU based player is indeed neck to neck in competition for a playing position in TM with a domestic one and neither really pose a big advantage over the other, then you can Bet Your asss Carlos will pick the EU based player Everytime..!

also little patience is afforded to those domestic/Ayrab-based players that Temporary Loose Form...!! they get benched and dropped quickly and replaced by a likely less experienced and possibly even less talented EU based player...!! thats all...!! And thats the way it should be..!!

PS
also like to add that CQ also has this tendency to Decide well ahead of time on an Overall Playing Tactics and Strategy for a Certain Phase of WCQualification or say AC or WC..!! Then after he is very heartless in Cutting Players that Do Not suit his Desired Strategy regardless of everything..!!
If you recall for WC14 he dropped quiet a few players who really deserved inclusion and instead took a bunch of players who were shitt overall but They BETTER FITTED his Desired Tactics for WC...!!

[Martin-Reza]

Ansari and Aghaei will be cut, unless anyone else is injured. Can't be any different.

[Iran_19]

That is a decent list of 25, not convinced with Akhbari instead of Mazaheri though..

[Doctor DOOM]

It would be a disaster if Mohammadi and Gucci are out but Taremi and Rezaeian are in!

What signal does this give to our players' motivation to go to Europe?!! Wasn't it CQ himself who always encouraged the players to go to Europe??!!

If this list is really true, I sense a lot of double standard by CQ!

my hope/guess is nobody is really out and perhaps CQ means to rotate them for later game.
but that' only a guess. nevertheless you have a very good point in there.

[Sly]

CQ's new GiveNgo, Counter Attacking Offense is currently highly dependent on Taremi's (still defensively stout )physical presence in there..! he is unlikely to be cut, So long he puts his head down and do everything asked of him in training camp and doesnt bring any of his bache-nanegi o soosooly shenanigans or any create controversy around TM..!!
Similar sentiments apply to Rezaeeian, but he is much more likely to be cut as soon as we have more Depth in RB position once Ghafoori's form improve or that Daniel kid gets more experience and familiarity with CQ's system ..!
Sure, CQ has always encouraged his players to move abroad and challenge themselves in better EU football leagues than staying IPL and Ayrab leagues..! but he has Not(nor would ever) Guarantee them team inclusion ahead of a more talented, Better Fitting to his desired System of play Domestic footballer..!! especially one who has behaved appropriately so far in TM training camps and proved themselves there a more worthy player..!
All that is Guaranteed to players who Transfer to a more challenging European league is The Awarded Overall Benefit of Doubt ..!! and the Natural Quicker improvement to that player's overall Pedigree as footballer that results from playing in a more organized and challenging European Team..!
in general if an EU based player is indeed neck to neck in competition for a playing position in TM with a domestic one and neither really pose a big advantage over the other, then you can Bet Your asss Carlos will pick the EU based player Everytime..!
also little patience is afforded to those domestic/Ayrab-based players that Temporary Loose Form...!! they get benched and dropped quickly and replaced by a likely less experienced and possibly even less talented EU based player...!! thats all...!! And thats the way it should be..!!
PS
also like to add that CQ also has this tendency to Decide well ahead of time on an Overall Playing Tactics and Strategy for a Certain Phase of WCQualification or say AC or WC..!! Then after he is very heartless in Cutting Players that Do Not suit his Desired Strategy regardless of everything..!!
If you recall for WC14 he dropped quiet a few players who really deserved inclusion and instead took a bunch of players who were shitt overall but They BETTER FITTED his Desired Tactics for WC...!!

I don't think Moammadi as a LB is different to Hajsafi! Aghaei in and Mohamamdi out, doesn't really look convincing to me with or without any game plan and tactic that CQ may have in mind!

Gucci is someone that has always been in CQ plans! The counter attacking tactic was proven with him in the field against South Korea in their home when Gucci scored the only winning goal and saved us from not qualifying to the WC! Judging by his recent games in Europe, he is not in a bad form either!

When it comes to these 2, against some of the players who've already been invited to TM training, nothing can justify the reason for their possible exclusion! I'm still hopeful both will be invited otherwise to me, there is something really really wrong with this system!

[Sly]

That is a decent list of 25, not convinced with Akhbari instead of Mazaheri though..

I also thought about that! There is no way Akhbari is in a better form than Mazaheri at the moment! I guess it has to do with his age! Both Akhbari and Beiravand are young and can get a lot of experience from being with TM! I think the only goalkeeper who actually might not deserve to be there is Haghighi!