World Cup Qualifier: Uzbekistan - Iran; Info, Updates and Live Reports (06.10.2016)

[AhadUzbek]

Pls share it ...

If you search "to'y" or "nikoh to'yi" on youtube, there are many videos.
Here is one, I think the groom is football commentator or something like that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT1010L7IK8

[Farhad-7]

I personally do not approve those lavish weddings. They spend so much money on weddings and then get divorced soon after. If you have that much money, why don't you invest in your future family. If you have everything you need, why don't you help out the needy people. I don't like these show-off weddings.

You definitely have some roots from the beloved Isfahan in you.

[Nader25]

isfahan kiloo-e chand, civilzation of samanyan and pre samanian, kharazmiyan etc. is much older....

[Kian Persepolis]

so you also call ball to'p/toop?

Hey just a question, how much of our Farsi can Uzbeks understand? I used to think Uzbeks spoke Farsi cause when you search up "Farsi speaking countries" on Google it showed a list with Uzbekistan on it. Of course, I know now that they speak Uzbek, but how much of our Farsi can you guys understand? I know for Tajikistan it says their language is Tajik, but I don't see any difference between Tajik and Farsi.

[nmssis]

Hi guys,

I hope you guys beat us. I really want to see Iran go to Russia. We'll probably manage a way to sneak by but you guys have shit luck.

[Ali.Karimi79]

I... They spend so much money on weddings and then get divorced soon after. .....

uzsbeks and iranians have so much in common.

[persianallstars]

uzsbeks and iranians have so much in common.

for example gherti perti music :-D

[AhadUzbek]

You definitely have some roots from the beloved Isfahan in you.

What is the connection between what I said and Isfahan?

[AhadUzbek]

Hey just a question, how much of our Farsi can Uzbeks understand? I used to think Uzbeks spoke Farsi cause when you search up "Farsi speaking countries" on Google it showed a list with Uzbekistan on it. Of course, I know now that they speak Uzbek, but how much of our Farsi can you guys understand? I know for Tajikistan it says their language is Tajik, but I don't see any difference between Tajik and Farsi.

I think a well-educated Uzbek, who has read a lot in Uzbek can understand/recognize a lot of words in Farsi speech. However, since the language group is different, we cannot speak it or fully understand it. But we can gasp the overall topic of the talk.
Someone mentioned the word sharmanda the other day, I was like, mannn they have it too.
Tajik language closely resembles Farsi and we are more attuned to Tajik language. In many cases, I can understand them with no problems but cannot speak their language because, again, the sentence structure is different. It is not uncommon in areas where both communities live together, they are bilingual.
I just come from a place where there was no Tajik community around, so I do not speak it.

[DireStraits]

for example gherti perti music :-D

It is not accidental. Much of our music originate from countries like UZ and Armenia.

[Kian Persepolis]

I think a well-educated Uzbek, who has read a lot in Uzbek can understand/recognize a lot of words in Farsi speech. However, since the language group is different, we cannot speak it or fully understand it. But we can gasp the overall topic of the talk.
Someone mentioned the word sharmanda the other day, I was like, mannn they have it too.
Tajik language closely resembles Farsi and we are more attuned to Tajik language. In many cases, I can understand them with no problems but cannot speak their language because, again, the sentence structure is different. It is not uncommon in areas where both communities live together, they are bilingual.
I just come from a place where there was no Tajik community around, so I do not speak it.

So is Turkish more familiar to you guys then Farsi?

[Nader25]

I think a well-educated Uzbek, who has read a lot in Uzbek can understand/recognize a lot of words in Farsi speech. However, since the language group is different, we cannot speak it or fully understand it. But we can gasp the overall topic of the talk.
Someone mentioned the word sharmanda the other day, I was like, mannn they have it too.
Tajik language closely resembles Farsi and we are more attuned to Tajik language. In many cases, I can understand them with no problems but cannot speak their language because, again, the sentence structure is different. It is not uncommon in areas where both communities live together, they are bilingual.

I just come from a place where there was no Tajik community around, so I do not speak it.

Once again thanks for your valuble posts and information you share with us. Your mature comments are always a joy to read.
It is a pitty but the truth is we iranian do know nothing about central asians countries and cultures.

A question to you again:
How similar or close is your turkic language to:
1) Turkey (istanbul) turkish, can you communicate with each other without understanding problem?
2) the similarity to Azeri turkic?
3) the similarity to Turkemestan and Kyrgyzestan turkic?
Tnanks a lot

[AhadUzbek]

So is Turkish more familiar to you guys then Farsi?

Yes, Turkish is more familiar. Some enthusiasts think it is very similar, in fact, one language. But in real life that is not the case. An average person from Turkey and Uzbekistan cannot communicate much beyond basic exchanges.
They can however, learn each others languages very quickly though.

A question to you again:
How similar or close is your turkic language to:
1) Turkey (istanbul) turkish, can you communicate with each other without understanding problem?
2) the similarity to Azeri turkic?
3) the similarity to Turkemestan and Kyrgyzestan turkic?
Tnanks a lot

Thank you for your kind words and interest.

First of all, uzbek is an independent and widely spoken language on its own. It is widely spoken in Central Asia, apart from people in our country, there are many uzbek speakers in neighboring countries. So, in addition to 32 mln in Uzbekistan, there are around 4 to 5 mln uzbek speakers in Afghanistan, 2 mln in Tajikistan, under 1 mln in Kyrgyzstan, 0.7 mln in Kazakhstan, and 0.7 in Turkmenistan, about a million in China's Xinjiang region. Also large diasporas exist in Russia, Saudi Arabia, the US, and Turkey. So, roughly about 50 mln uzbek speakers live in Central Asia.
Moreover, languages of the neighboring countries: turkmen, kazah, and kirgiz have considerable similarities with our language. It is largely due to the fact that there was no written form of these languages before the creation of the Soviet Union. The lingua franca was Turkiy (Turkic) which was renamed into Uzbek by the Russians/Soviets.
So, even though uzbeks may not understand those languages well, they tend to understand uzbek better.
Also, there is Uyghur language spoken in Xinjiang region of China. It was not originally part of China and Uyghur people speak practically the same language as we do and I think there are about 20mln Uyghur speakers.
So, uzbek has its own status in Central Asia where it is widely spoken and well-recognized. But people in the Caucasus, Azerbayjan, Turkey and the Middle East are not much familiar with our language. At least we hear more about them than they do about us. So, naturally, we are more familiar with their dialect than they are with our dialect.
I can understand any turkic of the lesser known turkic dialects in Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Bulgaria, Moldova, Lithuania, Caucasus, the Middle East.
I speak Turkish fluently and none has ever taught me. I just picked it up by interacting with Turkish friends and reading some books.
I speak Azeri fluently and none has ever taught it to me, the same story.
Since I know both, Turkish and Azeri, in comparison Azeri is more closer to us and ordinary people can communicate and understand each other. Turkish is a little bit difficult for us because of their new words invented by Mustafa Kemal regime.

[AhadUzbek]

One more addition, azeri and uzbek phonetics and speech has farsi influence, also we share the same loan-words that came from farsi and that makes our languages even more similar.

[AhadUzbek]

You definitely have some roots from the beloved Isfahan in you.

Maybe you meant Mashhad? I know in Azeri people Mashhadi Ibad is a prototype of frugal old womanizer.