Discussion: Quality of IPL So Far. 2015/2016 Season vs 2016/2017

[PersianLegion]

Did you even read my text? Who's talking about an insignificant friendly?! I know the truth hurts for the jealous guy! Instead as a fan, make sure to push your favorite eses or pespes (which ever it is), to get a more decent youth academy.

Dude you lost your argument with the names I have provided and now want to change the question and so on. Next time do a little research before commenting.

Nader94 and I had no disagreement about Sepahan having a good youth program. You want to take point from his argument be my guest and argue with another person.

[Sly]

Instead of changing the argument, try to respect what Persepolis and SS have done for Iranian players. I have nothing else to discuss here... as I can guess were this debate is heading.

Let me see....what did they do for the Iranian football.....hmmmm..... for a very long time they made Iran's football 2 ghotbi which meant they bought all the good players from different clubs with their money given by the government, which lead to the league getting weaker and weaker while eses and pespes stayed on top themselves every season. Now that slowly other clubs can pay their players to keep them, some eses/pespes fans can't handle it! The league has been getting stronger than ever for the past 10 years just because eses and pespes can not steal all the best players for themselves anymore.

[irani8perspolis]

Too early in the season to compare the quality, but one thing is sure, comparing this year to 2012/13 or 2011/12. The quality is light years ahead.

[Sly]

Dude you lost your argument with the names I have provided and now want to change the question and so on. Next time do a little research before commenting.

I lost the argument because you name someone like Kaebi who played 3 games in Europe? Ok! You won!

[PersianLegion]

Let me see....what did they do for the Iranian football.....hmmmm..... for a very long time they made Iran's football 2 ghotbi which meant they bought all the good players from different clubs with their money given by the government, which lead to the league getting weaker and weaker while eses and pespes stayed on top themselves every season. Now that slowly other clubs can pay their players to keep them, some eses/pespes fans can't handle it! The league has been getting stronger than ever for the past 10 years just because eses and pespes can not steal all the best players for themselves anymore.

Name a single club in IPL that is not directly or indirectly being funded by government money?

I lost the argument because you name someone like Kaebi who played 3 games in Europe? Ok! You won!

I gave you a long list which shattered your wrong assumption and original argument. Now you are trying to pick up some weak points from here and there to salvage a little credit!

Kaebi played there for about some months but in an interview he said he was either injured or out of favor when the new coach took over. He had his argument with the coach because he was tired of not being in the line up continuously and gave some fiery interviews to British news paper and that was end of him. He had his opportunity and ruined it himself. He played enough in Arab leagues to show he had the potentials afterward. (this is not up to club as well. Persepolis and SS did their part for sending him over)

Now, give a long list of players who went directly to Europe from Sepahan even if they only played 3 or 4 games! (Bar Azmoun because he doesn't count). The only players that I think worth mentioning are HajiSafi and Navidkia who both were unlucky.

[Sly]

Name a single club in IPL that is not directly or indirectly being funded by government money?

Now, almost all of them! and thank god for that!

[babak_iran]

Foolad and Sepahan are the only 2 teams in Iran that are producing their own talent. No other team in Iran produces more young talent then these 2 teams.

[Sly]

I gave you a long list which shattered your wrong assumption and original argument. Now you are trying to pick up some weak points from here and there to salvage a little credit!
Kaebi played there for about some months but in an interview he said he was either injured or out of favor when the new coach took over. He had his argument with the coach because he was tired of not being in the line up continuously and gave some fiery interviews to British news paper and that was end of him. He had his opportunity and ruined it himself. He played enough in Arab leagues to show he had the potentials afterward. (this is not up to club as well. Persepolis and SS did their part for sending him over)
Now, give a long list of players who went directly to Europe from Sepahan even if they only played 3 or 4 games! (Bar Azmoun because he doesn't count). The only players that I think worth mentioning are HajiSafi and Navidkia who both were unlucky.

The original argument was never about Sepahan. You said if it wasn't because of eses-pespes, we couldn't have sent so many players to Europe. But you don't send players to Europe for fun! There must be a purpose behind it and that is for the players to progress in order to help TM and the Iranian football! and I'm just saying most of our important players who actually had a benefit from Europe and helped TM because of it, went from elsewhere than from pespes and eses.

Now you can name Kaebi who's European adventure was so short, it can not even be mentioned or Emamifar or Farhad Majidi who was pure crap in TM (even though he was a great club player in Dubai and eses).

[Sly]

Foolad and Sepahan are the only 2 teams in Iran that are producing their own talent. No other team in Iran produces more young talent then these 2 teams.

Definitely! Zobahan are not to their level but they're not bad either! Players like Haddadifar, Mohsen Mosalman and Payam Sadeghiyan (even though he has destroyed himself) are the products of Zobahan!

[naderb94]

Foolad and Sepahan are the only 2 teams in Iran that are producing their own talent. No other team in Iran produces more young talent then these 2 teams.

Absolutely spot on with that. I would add Zobahan and maybe Naft. At one point, Aboomoslem was up there with all the talent they produced, but the club is destroyed now.
As far as today, Sepahan and Foolad have made the best contributions for our football

[PersianLegion]

Foolad was one of the best teams for producing talents specially with Croat coaches (bar Skocic). Khuzestan has the raw talent and all it needs are good youth scouts to pick them up from local teams and good management to grow the talents to full-fledged stars.

[NFL]

Completely agree!
Everytime pespes and eses are down in the IPL table, you see so much better football and more competitive games from top 3-5 teams! Sorry to the fans of both team but this is the truth!

ha?? what kind of logic is that?? what the hell does ANY two teams being down in ANY league have to do with other teams in the same league playing 'better football"?? So Liverpool plays better football against Manchester City if Man United and Chelsea are down in the table???