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    Another slap in the face for dumb as.. coaches and players of our League

    Uzbekistan stopped League games four days earlier than IRAN - http://footballitarin.com/link_page.php?id=323748 - لیگ ازبکستان چهار روز زودتر از ایران تعطیل شد
    And yet our dumb as. selfish vatani and foreign coaches and players complain about stopping the league.
    Who cares about the league or PP or SS when TM success is at stake?
    Learn from our opponents, like Uzbeks and Korea and Qatar and the rest and stop complaining like Kinder Garden kids. Grow up and understand no one give a shi... about the result of any team in League if we can't qualify for WC.
    So once again, shut up and help PM and stop complaining.

    #2
    The issue with those coaches and players are that they keep comparing themselves to top tier leagues but you can't compare yourself with them when we don't even have a decent pitch to train on and our facilities are not even close to their standards.

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      #3
      I agree 100%.. Not saying stop league games way too far in advance because players need game experience to be on form, but professor CQ needs as much time as possible to prepare the lads for battle.
      When it comes to scheduling league games especially around TM WC qualifiers, IFF needs to allow CQ to make all the shots. TM is the #1 priority in our country's football and we need to do whatever it takes for it to be successful..

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        #4
        Until we totally privatize our teams we will continue to witness a dysfunctional league and coaches that will put their positions above everything.
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          #5
          Uzbekistan has not advanced to WC even once, they might want to shut down their league for 3 months to achieve their goal. I don't think it is a good comparison for our situation.

          We should compare our situation with Korea, Japan or Australia in Asia and top African teams. Do they shut their league down for a month to have training for NT in several occasions? I saw the effect of league matches on our players. Look at Hajsafi, Taremi, Beiranvand, Heydari, etc... Their form and confidence pick up when they play constant football.

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            #6
            That's exactly right ans what bothers me is that the leauge coaches and players (not invited to TM) act like who cares about WC. We need to have our sh..y games against each other to make money and TM is keeps stopping us clowns having useless games to make more money :-)
            Hello league coaches and players!!!! Ding ding. Wake up dumbos. All you are trying to do in League (and failing) is to make our TM successful and the (almost all time) silly games you play against each other is meaningless.
            So. Grow up and stop complaining and suck it up.

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              #7
              Originally posted by PersianLegion View Post
              Uzbekistan has not advanced to WC even once, they might want to shut down their league for 3 months to achieve their goal. I don't think it is a good comparison for our situation.

              We should compare our situation with Korea, Japan or Australia in Asia and top African teams. Do they shut their league down for a month to have training for NT in several occasions? I saw the effect of league matches on our players. Look at Hajsafi, Taremi, Beiranvand, Heydari, etc... Their form and confidence pick up when they play constant football.
              So if qualifying for WC is so important for them to shut it down for three months, then we should learn some lessons from them.
              Plus where is one month coming from? you obviously just blindly follow what our league coaches and players say without doing any research.
              Can you also point me to a major game in Australia or Korea or any team in our group in coming week, which includes all the national team players? Don't try to hard as you will see none.
              I agree the players need time to play in league to get fit and practice, but I don't agree anyone in IRAN claiming that they can prepare players better than CQ for our TM games.
              Hence, they need to shu..up and keep quite and su..k it up.

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                #8
                ^ We are not on the same page.

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                  #9
                  Oh so now we have to look up to Uzbekistan, ha??

                  that's great progress!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                    #10
                    I usually defend IPL, but according to the latest AFC association ranking, that was released today, Iran is ranked 7th on club points!!! (Overall 5th and 4th in West Asia which means that Perspolis has to go into play-offs).

                    http://www.the-afc.com/afcasfeeds?view=ranking

                    And to be honest, we didn't look great against Uzbek clubs in the last 2 ACL seasons (5 Iranian wins - 3 draws - 6 Uzbek wins).

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by 04041374 View Post
                      I usually defend IPL, but according to the latest AFC association ranking, that was released today, Iran is ranked 7th on club points!!! (Overall 5th and 4th in West Asia which means that Perspolis has to go into play-offs).

                      http://www.the-afc.com/afcasfeeds?view=ranking

                      And to be honest, we didn't look great against Uzbek clubs in the last 2 ACL seasons (5 Iranian wins - 3 draws - 6 Uzbek wins).
                      We should stop caring about Asian Clown Champions League, it's all about teams who have the most money to invest in good foreign players.

                      Our focus should be on qualifying for World Cups from now on. Send our B team to Asian Cup for all I care, the entire tournament is rigged like always.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by theworldgame View Post
                        Uzbekistan stopped League games four days earlier than IRAN - http://footballitarin.com/link_page.php?id=323748 - لیگ ازبکستان چهار روز زودتر از ایران تعطیل شد
                        And yet our dumb as. selfish vatani and foreign coaches and players complain about stopping the league.
                        Who cares about the league or PP or SS when TM success is at stake?
                        Learn from our opponents, like Uzbeks and Korea and Qatar and the rest and stop complaining like Kinder Garden kids. Grow up and understand no one give a shi... about the result of any team in League if we can't qualify for WC.
                        So once again, shut up and help PM and stop complaining.
                        Uzbekistan did not announce the squad yet. According to the sites, their league will stop in Sep. 29.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by PersianLegion View Post
                          Uzbekistan has not advanced to WC even once, they might want to shut down their league for 3 months to achieve their goal. I don't think it is a good comparison for our situation.

                          We should compare our situation with Korea, Japan or Australia in Asia and top African teams. Do they shut their league down for a month to have training for NT in several occasions? I saw the effect of league matches on our players. Look at Hajsafi, Taremi, Beiranvand, Heydari, etc... Their form and confidence pick up when they play constant football.
                          Uzbekistan stopped its league only one week before its home Syria game. They have not announce their squad yet. Based on my research, their league will be stopped in Sep. 29.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by theworldgame View Post
                            So if qualifying for WC is so important for them to shut it down for three months, then we should learn some lessons from them.
                            Plus where is one month coming from? you obviously just blindly follow what our league coaches and players say without doing any research.
                            Can you also point me to a major game in Australia or Korea or any team in our group in coming week, which includes all the national team players? Don't try to hard as you will see none.
                            I agree the players need time to play in league to get fit and practice, but I don't agree anyone in IRAN claiming that they can prepare players better than CQ for our TM games.
                            Hence, they need to shu..up and keep quite and su..k it up.
                            No matter how long CQ have time to train the players. Even if we stop the league 50 days before each WCQ game it still will not be as effective as playing matches weekly for national team players. The players must play weekly in order to stay match fit.

                            Example:

                            Gibraltar no comparison for Switzerland, says Santos

                            Fernando Santos conceded Portugal’s friendly victory over Gibraltar was not a vigorous warm-up for their looming World Cup qualifier against Switzerland.

                            The European champions ran out 5-0 winners in Porto on Thursday, Nani scoring twice before three goals in six second-half minutes put the minnows to the sword.

                            Tougher tests await for Portugal in the shape of Switzerland in their opening qualifier in Basel on Tuesday and Santos knows there is no use in comparing the merits of the two opponents.

                            “I think this game was important because it was better than a training session, because many of these players needed to increase their pace, because the season is beginning and many are down on their normal level,” he said.

                            “This game had nothing to do with the match against Switzerland. They are two completely different teams, so there is no reason to do one thing with another.

                            “We faced an opponent who didn’t create a major obstacle for us in offensive terms, then it has no comparison with the match against Switzerland.

                            “We know that [Switzerland] is a decisive game because theoretically, in the group there are three teams that will fight for the qualification – Portugal, Switzerland and Hungary, and we will face these two early on.

                            “Switzerland will play at home, so I expect a very tough match, but I think Portugal can do well. We will go to Switzerland with the same target, which is always to win and that’s what we try to do.”

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by theworldgame View Post
                              So if qualifying for WC is so important for them to shut it down for three months, then we should learn some lessons from them.
                              Plus where is one month coming from? you obviously just blindly follow what our league coaches and players say without doing any research.
                              Can you also point me to a major game in Australia or Korea or any team in our group in coming week, which includes all the national team players? Don't try to hard as you will see none.
                              I agree the players need time to play in league to get fit and practice, but I don't agree anyone in IRAN claiming that they can prepare players better than CQ for our TM games.
                              Hence, they need to shu..up and keep quite and su..k it up.
                              CQ is not what you think. Tell me one great achievement he had as a head coach in last 15 yrs? I meant the achievements the likes of Costa Rica, Algeria, Greece, etc coaches had in the last WC. He just has the history of working with big names/clubs and that is why you never accepted that his resume shows he is overall a failure as a head coach. On the other hand, the legendary coach Tomislav Ivic coached many good teams such as Porto, Ajax, Atletico Madrid, Olympico Marseillie, Paris Saint-Germain, Galatasaray, etc. He won the league title in 6 different countries. This is the true example of a great head coach. He was the best tactician we had. TBH, CQ did a decent job in terms of overall disciplining of the team, and handling the pressure from his critics but I do not accept him as a tactician at all. He is a meticulous organizer but not a tactician at all. Anyway what pisses me off is that the following player were not deserved to be in the squad but they are:

                              Alireza Haghighi
                              Ramin Rezaeian
                              Ehsan Hajsafi
                              Mehdi Taremi
                              Masoud Shojaei (Why is he still in the squad? How many good games he had for the national team in last a few years?)
                              Anderanik Teymourian (He is out of form)
                              Dariush Shojaeian (His team is in the bottom table of the league)
                              Karim Ansarifard (Greece league and playing good games against bottom table teams of the Greece league is nothing especial)

                              The following players were deserved to be invited:

                              Hamed Lak
                              Mohammad Iranpourian
                              Mohsen Mosalman
                              Iman Mobali
                              Amir Arsalan Motahari
                              Mohammad Ghazi
                              Omid Alishah

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