This Mahdi Taj is doing it right!

[Navid_Esfoony]

I disagree with your statement. Esfahani folks are cheap in character while they accumulate wealth at the expense of lying and cheating others.
Asghar was in my program. I saw him at Mehrabad airport after 15 years being in the same program. We both were going to Isfahan from Tehran. I was invited and he was teaching at Isfahan University. Asghar was a crook who was living a good life and was married and had three children when I visited their house. He was a womanizer when he was a student in my program but his wife had chador and never came to sit with us. Lunch was Tas-Kabob which was Isfahani version. They insisted for me to stay. I left and headed out.
I am one of the few Iranians who has visited Isfahan more than others and I have a picture of me in Menar Jonban.
I lived in Isfahan and purchased various things in its Bazaar. I knew they were cheating me, made my point so that they did not think I was stupid.
I am against using UAE facilities for Iranian athletes. It makes us look stupid and dumb. Iran is a great country which has great people with ton of natural resources. Iran must have its own facilities and okay with me for others to utilize our facilities BUT not the other way around.
I am against using other facilities when Iran can have its own.

Khoda shafaat bede daadaa. The fact that you have the audacity to make such a claim based on your experience with Asghar and co says a lot about you.

[AIrani]

Khoda shafaat bede daadaa. The fact that you have the audacity to make such a claim based on your experience with Asghar and co says a lot about you.

Do you want me to list more names and examples? I have many. I just mentioned a few.

I must add that Esfahani characteristics can be generalized to other parts of Iran and the world. In travelling I have ran into similar characteristics in many places.

One reason Iran has been backward or remained backward is because of our poor characteristics who get easily offended. I do not hide our poor characteristics and we must change and help Iran to be a better country. Siting or living in Canada or USA or Europe which the majority of PFDC members similar to other sport sites' members live outside of Iran will not make Iran a better place.

Iranians are talented, have lots of money to drive a good car, live in a good life, but the majority are cheap in character and will not put their money where their mouth is.

Truth hurts but actions and comments are good reflective of poor character.

[eerooni]

What start as an interesting story about IFF Presddent doing his job has turned into a shameful saga about petty issues. Can't we just all focus on the story and comment about it people?!! Plssss!!!!

[Kian]

You did not read the subject of this thread. I am correct on Isfahani people. I have more to share based on my experience with them. I lived in Isfahan and have visited that city many times before IRI and after IRI. My view of the people who I have run across is negative.
Truth hurts? Good that was the point of my thread and it accomplished what I meant to say.

I'm not going to bother quoting every single post you have made in this thread, and I admit, I don't really know who you are so I don't want to pass judgement that quickly. That said, based solely on your posts here you're either not a very clear communicator, or you're ignorant (I won't say racist because 'Isfahani' is not a race; it's not even a Nationality) - you also contradict yourself (e.g. your statement about Isfahanis makes the behaviour you describe contingent on being from a specific geographical location (in this case Isfahan) and then you go on to say that you've seen the same behaviours from other people who were not from Isfahan. In other words, the behaviour is not contingent on being from Isfahan. That's the contradiction that I wanted to point. But, as contradictions go, this is a good contradiction, because it makes it more likely that you're not a clear communicator versus being bigoted.

In other parts of your post you qualify your statements about people from Isfahan and concede that it is perhaps your experience with people from Isfahan (which is naturally influenced by who you are, what you do, and how you conduct yourself) - this, again, makes it likely that what I find offensive in your posts is just an unfortunate linguistic issue (e.g. you're wanting to say that your experience has not been positive in general, but instead of emphasizing that it is your experience, you emphasize where the people are from).

Lastly, when you say "the truth hurts", you take for granted that your view on things is factual - it is not. It is your opinion. There are millions of Isfehanis and I doubt you've met all of them and know sufficient information about all of them to be able to make a generalization of the nature you're making here. I do agree that there is a tendency to downplay shortfalls; nevertheless, that generality does not necessarily apply to the individuals who are reading your post here, and as such, there is no way in which they would be "hurt" by that statement. I think in this case you're passing a "truism" for an actual argument, but I'm not really certain what role that statement is supposed to play in the argument you're trying to make.

To sum up: your experiences with people from Isfahan (which is undoubtedly influenced by who you are as a person) has been largely negative; that does not make people from Isfahan any better or worse.

[AIrani]

I'm not going to bother quoting every single post you have made in this thread, and I admit, I don't really know who you are so I don't want to pass judgement that quickly. That said, based solely on your posts here you're either not a very clear communicator, or you're ignorant (I won't say racist because 'Isfahani' is not a race; it's not even a Nationality) - you also contradict yourself (e.g. your statement about Isfahanis makes the behaviour you describe contingent on being from a specific geographical location (in this case Isfahan) and then you go on to say that you've seen the same behaviours from other people who were not from Isfahan. In other words, the behaviour is not contingent on being from Isfahan. That's the contradiction that I wanted to point. But, as contradictions go, this is a good contradiction, because it makes it more likely that you're not a clear communicator versus being bigoted.

In other parts of your post you qualify your statements about people from Isfahan and concede that it is perhaps your experience with people from Isfahan (which is naturally influenced by who you are, what you do, and how you conduct yourself) - this, again, makes it likely that what I find offensive in your posts is just an unfortunate linguistic issue (e.g. you're wanting to say that your experience has not been positive in general, but instead of emphasizing that it is your experience, you emphasize where the people are from).

Lastly, when you say "the truth hurts", you take for granted that your view on things is factual - it is not. It is your opinion. There are millions of Isfehanis and I doubt you've met all of them and know sufficient information about all of them to be able to make a generalization of the nature you're making here. I do agree that there is a tendency to downplay shortfalls; nevertheless, that generality does not necessarily apply to the individuals who are reading your post here, and as such, there is no way in which they would be "hurt" by that statement. I think in this case you're passing a "truism" for an actual argument, but I'm not really certain what role that statement is supposed to play in the argument you're trying to make.

To sum up: your experiences with people from Isfahan (which is undoubtedly influenced by who you are as a person) has been largely negative; that does not make people from Isfahan any better or worse.

You are one confused person who has no logic in his statements. I would reply in another comment to my comments.

[toopchi]

Alright whatever AIrani you do your thing man, be a bigot for all I care. More Beryooni and Khoresht Mast for me.

Does anyone know who organized the games vs Brazil and Russia in UAE back in the day? If the rumor about the Ivory Coast game is legit, the MoU with UAE could be our launching pad to getting great friendlies fixtures.

[kia]

I'm not going to bother quoting every single post you have made in this thread, and I admit, I don't really know who you are so I don't want to pass judgement that quickly. That said, based solely on your posts here you're either not a very clear communicator, or you're ignorant (I won't say racist because 'Isfahani' is not a race; it's not even a Nationality) - you also contradict yourself (e.g. your statement about Isfahanis makes the behaviour you describe contingent on being from a specific geographical location (in this case Isfahan) and then you go on to say that you've seen the same behaviours from other people who were not from Isfahan. In other words, the behaviour is not contingent on being from Isfahan. That's the contradiction that I wanted to point. But, as contradictions go, this is a good contradiction, because it makes it more likely that you're not a clear communicator versus being bigoted.

In other parts of your post you qualify your statements about people from Isfahan and concede that it is perhaps your experience with people from Isfahan (which is naturally influenced by who you are, what you do, and how you conduct yourself) - this, again, makes it likely that what I find offensive in your posts is just an unfortunate linguistic issue (e.g. you're wanting to say that your experience has not been positive in general, but instead of emphasizing that it is your experience, you emphasize where the people are from).

Lastly, when you say "the truth hurts", you take for granted that your view on things is factual - it is not. It is your opinion. There are millions of Isfehanis and I doubt you've met all of them and know sufficient information about all of them to be able to make a generalization of the nature you're making here. I do agree that there is a tendency to downplay shortfalls; nevertheless, that generality does not necessarily apply to the individuals who are reading your post here, and as such, there is no way in which they would be "hurt" by that statement. I think in this case you're passing a "truism" for an actual argument, but I'm not really certain what role that statement is supposed to play in the argument you're trying to make.

To sum up: your experiences with people from Isfahan (which is undoubtedly influenced by who you are as a person) has been largely negative; that does not make people from Isfahan any better or worse.

Either that or he had a bad incident under Pole Khadjou.

[AIrani]

General comment about my comments in this thread.

I was not the person who brought up the issue of Isfahani in this thread. Go blame the person who did.

My intention was to explain that Isfahani people with all that shrewdness should not negotiate with an Association because of the reasons I mentioned.

For your information, I have defended the name of Persian Gulf and its heritage for many years and I take it personally if someone deals with people who abuse an Iranian heritage. That was the origin of my being upset at Taj.

I meant what I said about people from Isfahan which after Iraq attacked Iran, its population changed drastically with people from various cities. Therefore, Isfahan is not what it used to be and is not limited to Isfahani people. I lived in Isfahan some time before IRI and after IRI.

I will generalize Iranian characteristics and will not reveal too much as I want well for Iran and Iranians.

In general, our people thrive for being best, therefore, they are hasood. Hasoodi seems to be in Iranian blood. Iranians accumulate as much as wealth as they can, drive good cars, live in high class neighborhoods. However, they have ingrained in them cheap character. I must add that many European and Americans also have cheap characteristics.

That is WHY I mentioned what I mentioned about Isfahani people can be generalized to other parts of Iran and world. If you understand what I wrote please do not twist my words. Write your own position.

Most discussions among Iranians (both inside and outside of Iran) is about wealth accumulation and selfishness.

PFDC members are better than two other Iranian websites where their Admin's also use profanity to defend their position. One Iranian website has lost half of its members due to one Administrator who is rude and inconsiderate.

I live in Iran more than those PFDC members who were offended by my comments. I criticize many things and many people. I use a saying that I live by it:
I love my country, therefore, I criticize it.

This was the base for my comments and criticisms. I am mad at the majority of Iranians which is not limited to people from Isfahan. Iranians have contributed to destruction of Iran which I made a documentary about it and won the Best prize in Europe for my work.

I am willing to put my record in protection of Iranian heritage and environment, any time, any where against anybody who has been offended.
I spend my money as limited as it is on worthy causes rather than driving fancy cars or attending Googhoosh concerts. More about Googhoosh in another thread.

So much to say and to write.

[AIrani]

Either that or he had a bad incident under Pole Khadjou.

Kia's comment demonstrates why Iran is a messed up country.

So I was correct in my description? hahaha

Thank you all for proving my point(s).

[Hosseini]

Great moves by Taj, and like others said he is navigating through the hurdles of IR excellently. Kudos to him and his effort in assisting in Queiroz's efforts to make Team Melli professional.

As for working with UAE, you don't need to like them to make deals that would help our country. He is being opportunistic and taking advantage of opportunities of the situation in front of him.

[Sly]

General comment about my comments in this thread.

I was not the person who brought up the issue of Isfahani in this thread. Go blame the person who did.

My intention was to explain that Isfahani people with all that shrewdness should not negotiate with an Association because of the reasons I mentioned.

For your information, I have defended the name of Persian Gulf and its heritage for many years and I take it personally if someone deals with people who abuse an Iranian heritage. That was the origin of my being upset at Taj.

I meant what I said about people from Isfahan which after Iraq attacked Iran, its population changed drastically with people from various cities. Therefore, Isfahan is not what it used to be and is not limited to Isfahani people. I lived in Isfahan some time before IRI and after IRI.

I will generalize Iranian characteristics and will not reveal too much as I want well for Iran and Iranians.

In general, our people thrive for being best, therefore, they are hasood. Hasoodi seems to be in Iranian blood. Iranians accumulate as much as wealth as they can, drive good cars, live in high class neighborhoods. However, they have ingrained in them cheap character. I must add that many European and Americans also have cheap characteristics.

That is WHY I mentioned what I mentioned about Isfahani people can be generalized to other parts of Iran and world. If you understand what I wrote please do not twist my words. Write your own position.

Most discussions among Iranians (both inside and outside of Iran) is about wealth accumulation and selfishness.

PFDC members are better than two other Iranian websites where their Admin's also use profanity to defend their position. One Iranian website has lost half of its members due to one Administrator who is rude and inconsiderate.

I live in Iran more than those PFDC members who were offended by my comments. I criticize many things and many people. I use a saying that I live by it:
I love my country, therefore, I criticize it.

This was the base for my comments and criticisms. I am mad at the majority of Iranians which is not limited to people from Isfahan. Iranians have contributed to destruction of Iran which I made a documentary about it and won the Best prize in Europe for my work.

I am willing to put my record in protection of Iranian heritage and environment, any time, any where against anybody who has been offended.
I spend my money as limited as it is on worthy causes rather than driving fancy cars or attending Googhoosh concerts. More about Googhoosh in another thread.

So much to say and to write.

AIrani jan, I'm sorry but you can not use the "I have helped to preserve the name of the Persian gulf, our heritage, the Asiatic cheetah, our roads, etc. etc." every time as an argument! Even if you have saved Iran from going under and remain as the only hero of humanity in history books, it doesn't give you the right to insult and disrespect the population of a whole city! Specially as a reason to, so called, "help" notifying what YOU see as our backwardness!

From all the replies here you see that everyone disagree with you and feel insulted by the way you describe your reasons! Instead of doing it Iranian way by being stubborn about it (talking about our weaknesses as a society), you could at least accept that maybe despite all your experiences, there is a chance that you are the one who is wrong! Accepting our mistakes and apologizing for them like a man, is also a step forward for us as a society to progress!

I know you are good man and try to do good stuff for Iran! But it should not be only in words. You need to show it too!

[AIrani]

AIrani jan, I'm sorry but you can not use the "I have helped to preserve the name of the Persian gulf, our heritage, the Asiatic cheetah, our roads, etc. etc." every time as an argument! Even if you have saved Iran from going under and remain as the only hero of humanity in history books, it doesn't give you the right to insult and disrespect the population of a whole city! Specially as a reason to, so called, "help" notifying what YOU see as our backwardness!
From all the replies here you see that everyone disagree with you and feel insulted by the way you describe your reasons! Instead of doing it Iranian way by being stubborn about it (talking about our weaknesses as a society), you could at least accept that maybe despite all your experiences, there is a chance that you are the one who is wrong! Accepting our mistakes and apologizing for them like a man, is also a step forward for us as a society to progress!
I know you are good man and try to do good stuff for Iran! But it should not be only in words. You need to show it too!

Quote from Sly: " I know you are good man and try to do good stuff for Iran! But it should not be only in words. You need to show it too."

Sly jan, you were not professional at ISP (another sport site), but you are professional in this comment, so THANK YOU.

In a film I produced about Vandalism that Sly saw a part of it and offered to mail the full copy to him, I covered Isfahan's historical sites' destructions including ten other cities' destructions by our own people.

My criticisms were not and are not limited to Isfahan or Isfahani people. Since O-ZoNe brought up the topic, I gave few examples of Isfahani handicap.

Many Iranians criticize IRI or before that Shah, forgetting that they are at fault. As I have said before, Yes, fcked up people will have fcked government; not the other way around.

Once more, as I said before, I am angry at our people for shitting on the heritage and country and running away from both to hide in Canada, USA, or other parts of the world.

Taj has no dignity to deal with people who abuse or have abused Iranian heritage. That was the base of my argument and I stand by my statement as I have for many years.

Iran has survived throughout history because of people who have put their neck on the line and used everything in their power to preserve its heritage and environment, not those who have run away from problems and get offended when the truth is told.

[mahestan]

Quote from Sly: " I know you are good man and try to do good stuff for Iran! But it should not be only in words. You need to show it too."

Sly jan, you were not professional at ISP (another sport site), but you are professional in this comment, so THANK YOU.

In a film I produced about Vandalism that Sly saw a part of it and offered to mail the full copy to him, I covered Isfahan's historical sites' destructions including ten other cities' destructions by our own people.

My criticisms were not and are not limited to Isfahan or Isfahani people. Since O-ZoNe brought up the topic, I gave few examples of Isfahani handicap.

Many Iranians criticize IRI or before that Shah, forgetting that they are at fault. As I have said before, Yes, fcked up people will have fcked government; not the other way around.

Once more, as I said before, I am angry at our people for shitting on the heritage and country and running away from both to hide in Canada, USA, or other parts of the world.

Taj has no dignity to deal with people who abuse or have abused Iranian heritage. That was the base of my argument and I stand by my statement as I have for many years.

Iran has survived throughout history because of people who have put their neck on the line and used everything in their power to preserve its heritage and environment, not those who have run away from problems and get offended when the truth is told.

Javad Fakoori, Mansour Sattari, Abbas Doran, Bahram Afzali are all rolling in their graves right now because of some of the comments on this thread.

Wake up people, do you realize that UAE has been constantly questioned Iran's sovereignty? To this day they are fighting to take the 3 islands of Greater and lesser Tunbs, Abu Musa in the Persian Gulf away from Iran. Every single Arab country south of the Persian Gulf funded Saddam Hussein to attack your home country. I am sure each and everyone of you know Iranians that were effected by the imposed war.

The Shah didn't allow any airline fly through Iranian air space if their maps didn't have the name Persian Gulf shown, but look where we have come now.

BTW to the individual who mentioned the name of the Caspian sea and if it was called Russian sea we would try to change it. I would like to point out that in Iran they call it Darya ye Khazar, but you don't see Iran constantly going to the UN and trying to change the name.

[AIrani]

Javad Fakoori, Mansour Sattari, Abbas Doran, Bahram Afzali are all rolling in their graves right now because of some of the comments on this thread.
Wake up people, do you realize that UAE has been constantly questioned Iran's sovereignty? To this day they are fighting to take the 3 islands of Greater and lesser Tunbs, Abu Musa in the Persian Gulf away from Iran. Every single Arab country south of the Persian Gulf funded Saddam Hussein to attack your home country. I am sure each and everyone of you know Iranians that were effected by the imposed war.
The Shah didn't allow any airline fly through Iranian air space if their maps didn't have the name Persian Gulf shown, but look where we have come now.
BTW to the individual who mentioned the name of the Caspian sea and if it was called Russian sea we would try to change it. I would like to point out that in Iran they call it Darya ye Khazar, but you don't see Iran constantly going to the UN and trying to change the name.

Excellent. Well said. Excellent. Well said.

Let PFDC members who got offended read your post. Your statements support my position being against Taj dealing with people who hate Iran and its heritage.

UAE funded and supported Saddam Hussain and many people from Isfahan were killed in the war with Iraq. When I walked at Isfahan University, I became very upset at our stupidity as a nation to work with people who hate us and our heritage.

Either many PFDC members do not know the history of Iran and Arabs or running away from facts and truth.

Excellent comment Mahestan. Thanks. Excellent. Well said.

Brave Iranians such as Abbas Doran were killed using Arab money with arms from Russia and Western countries.

I oppose cooperating with countries who hate us. For God's Sake, there was no UAE before 1970, now they claim Iranian islands are theirs? and stupid Taj wants to cooperate with them????? NO WAY.

[BacheLot]

What start as an interesting story about IFF Presddent doing his job has turned into a shameful saga about petty issues. Can't we just all focus on the story and comment about it people?!! Plssss!!!!

lol, r u surprise...?? that is a big can of worm you opened man..!!
i knew this thread was gonna blow up with PG comments and could tell so just seeing it pop up top of the forum threads since opening..!!