Shame on FIFA, shame on AFC!

[TheBoss]

That's fine, but controlling the weather isn't one of them.

Every country/federation has a long list of grievances against FIFA, many much stronger than ours.

But to waste our time crying foul because of something unpredictable like the weather is absurd and childish, especially when there are much larger issues.

It rains like this every year in Malaysia in fall, what do you mean controlling weather? They knew what the situation is going to be

[Nokhodi]

That's fine, but controlling the weather isn't one of them.

Every country/federation has a long list of grievances against FIFA, many much stronger than ours.

But to waste our time crying foul because of something unpredictable like the weather is absurd and childish, especially when there are much larger issues.

Dadash, the field was garbage even 3 days prior when the Syrians played their friendly versus Singapore in it.
They even got to practice in it, while TM was not allowed.

[Nokhodi]

I am sorry, but these random comparisons make no sense. Just like the one Ekbatan & pdot posted, there is a big difference! So before someone else uses Google to find some random example to defend AFC and deny the obvious corruption, let me once again point out the clear difference:
It was NO SURPIRSE to see the field in Malaysia like that. At that time of the year it was very well predictable long time ago. Comparing that to the examples some posted here you will see it started to snow/rain DURING THE GAME and it was not predictable, but at least they treated the field (or because of drainage system) and things became better in the second half - while vs. Syria the field was already full of mud BEFORE THE GAME and the field became only worse minute by minute.
+ you see other examples were investigated, while AFC will just get away with it as if everything was fair....
+ it's the amount of decisions that went against Iran in the past - single examples here & there from around the world don't make sense here...
See the difference now?
No?
Let me again sum up the most important points:
- CQ asked for another venue months ago because of the monsoon problem / anyone with a simple research could have predicted that the field will be like that on game day.
- Double standards. The 2nd tier of the stadium has no seats, while at the same time AFC demanded IFF to install seats for Azadi.
- The Saudi Iraq game was moved to a better stadium / why didn’t they at least use that for the Iran game as well?
- The field was already full of mud & water many hours before the game even started. Delaying the match didn’t change anything, absolutely zero. They didn’t treat the field, neither did the field became better - in fact things only became worse. All mind-games...
- Unlike what people say the field was bad for both teams, it was Syria who benefited the most. Iran is a strong team, maybe tactically the best in Asia. Honestly football wise Syria has nothing much to offer to really be on our level. So that's why Iran suffered the most, as we couldn’t build up our usual game plan and our flow was diminished because of the field. Our aim was to get 3 points, while Syria only wanted to get a point at best. This field made it much easier for them to kick the ball aways and prevent Iran from penetrating their penalty box - with quick moves/passes - cause the ball didn’t roll.
- The usual disgusting time wasting by arabs. Their GK started it already in the first half, around min 15 if I remember correctly! Their #15, their second captain, probably will join Bollywood soon, he actually should have been sent off. Their #7 just underlined their true "tactic" while being substituted, their coach went crazy & even pushed his own assistant away - none of these dirty and shameful gestures were punished by the referee.
- A legit goal of Iran was denied.
- The referee didn't add any extra time despite Syria wasting so much time. 4 minutes only and in those 4 minutes they wasted time again (review their GK).
.....
Please add if I forgot something. Now if you put all points on one paper you will see why we rightfully have to be angry about the conditions for the Syria game. It's fine to discuss, that's why we have the forum after all, but lets me honest: We are on page 13 (+ the pages in the other thread) and we still have seen no valid argument from the members in support of AFC - while the rest actually provided dozen of valid points to prove their point. All we have seen from the other side of the argument are nonsense one-liners like: "you are racists, we are all people, conspiracy, AFC is not vs. Iran, you are pussies, don’t cry, don’t complain".... or random examples and senseless comparison with other matches from the past.
Be honest to yourself and let’s stop with this loser mentality to just ignore the obvious decisions against our team throughout all the years. If this was the first time then maybe we could have said that it was just poor planning, but it wasn't and we have seen enough suspicious decisions like that. What else has to happen and how much do we have to suffer until we all unite and realize the true face of AFC and all these corrupted organizations?
EDIT:
Just when I posted this several other points came into my mind, really don't know where to start - so many obvious facts...but let me end all this once again with the following video:
https://youtu.be/idip48bEZqU?t=16m22s
I'm out.

Beautiful. Just beautiful.
One of my favorite posts of the year.

[Doctor DOOM]

That's fine, but controlling the weather isn't one of them.

Every country/federation has a long list of grievances against FIFA, many much stronger than ours.

But to waste our time crying foul because of something unpredictable like the weather is absurd and childish, especially when there are much larger issues.

LOL. Again? give it up man. this is not looking good for you.
nobody said "why did they allow it to rain" or "why did they not prevent rain" or ... to point at "controlling weather".
we're saying why did they pick a region that they KNEW FOR SURE, the weather will cause havoc at this time of year.

and if that's not enough for you (clearly nothing is enough to convince you it seems), then why didnt they pick a different stadium that HAD facilities to drain the flooded pitch, and a better pitch ... RIGHT NEXT DOOR to this swamp.


But I'm sure this also will be wasted as you few are just bored and looking for arguments, not results.

[TheBoss]

the extent some members go to defend AFC is unusual. Hope at least they are getting paid for it

[rugs]

What about the blatant time wasting? Do you think FIFA and AFC have any control over that?
It is a disgusting display and brings the whole game into disrepute. Isnt 'fair play' the FIFA motto? I know some teams draw fouls and players go down in a heap like the S American teams but they don't play act and lie on the ground every 2 minutes and wasting 20 mins of the game time, this seems to be the speciality of the middle-eastern Arab nations. Do you think FIFA can and should do something about that? Is that within their control?

I agree, it should be combated.

Do you agree that weather conditions are not controlled by the AFC?

[rugs]

It rains like this every year in Malaysia in fall, what do you mean controlling weather? They knew what the situation is going to be

And it snowed in Colorado.

You have plenty examples of bad weather conditions all around the world.

Are those conspiracies against those teams as well?

[rugs]

Dadash, the field was garbage even 3 days prior when the Syrians played their friendly versus Singapore in it.
They even got to practice in it, while TM was not allowed.

Instead of a conspiracy have you considered that maybe the Syrians wanted to play there? Have you considered with only 3 days it was not possible to find another pitch? Or in 3 days they thought they would be ready? Was it a conspiracy against the Koreans when they played there?

When this happens in Iran, do you think it's a conspiracy too? Was it a conspiracy against Esteghlal Tehran when they played in worse mud in Anzali? Or how about when Foolad played there last year?

Not everything is a conspiracy.

[rugs]

LOL. Again? give it up man. this is not looking good for you.
nobody said "why did they allow it to rain" or "why did they not prevent rain" or ... to point at "controlling weather".
we're saying why did they pick a region that they KNEW FOR SURE, the weather will cause havoc at this time of year.
and if that's not enough for you (clearly nothing is enough to convince you it seems), then why didnt they pick a different stadium that HAD facilities to drain the flooded pitch, and a better pitch ... RIGHT NEXT DOOR to this swamp.
But I'm sure this also will be wasted as you few are just bored and looking for arguments, not results.

Lol, so Malaysia and all of Gilan shouldn't have teams because it rains....

It looks like you guys are going out of your way to play the victim and cry conspiracy over something that could and has happened to a multitude of teams.

There could be many reasons why they didn't, incompetence being the most likely, but that doesn't mean there's some conspiracy against Iran. Especially when we're sitting in 1st place. Lol, only Iranians would cry conspiracy...

[TheBoss]

damn I hope you get paid by the AFC. All this hard work to defend one of the most corrupt shitstains in the world for nothing is sad

[NFL]

Corruption, yes. bad decisions, yes.

Conspiracy against Iran football team? Pretty far fetched and makes us look like "Whiners".

there is no conspiracy people. Just shitty AFC management.

[ali alipour]

I wouldn't necessarily call it a conspiracy, but if you don't think there's a big bias against Iran in afc then you're just delusional.

[rugs]

damn I hope you get paid by the AFC. All this hard work to defend one of the most corrupt shitstains in the world for nothing is sad

I'm sorry you don't see that some of us choose to not be puerile children.

[TheBoss]

I'm sorry you don't see that some of us choose to not be puerile children.

I'm sorry you don't see the legitimate grievances

[rugs]

I'm sorry you don't see the legitimate grievances

And if not we must be on the AFC's payroll....

That type of labeling sound familiar?