Shame on FIFA, shame on AFC!

[ali alipour]

How can we forget when FIFA conspired against the Western Sydney Wanderers after being paid off by a pro Cruz Azul lobby in the Club World Cup!!!
The injustice of two teams playing on the same pitch must be a conspiracy against one of them!

Here are the highlights https://youtu.be/Ia5zf1UUpOs
You can again see that the conditions are better than in Malaysia. For some reason you're picking pictures that don't really represent how the game went. The game had 4 goals.

The game was also played in Morrocco where I'm pretty sure conditions like this are unprecedented. Compare this to Malaysia where they knew very well and beforehand that the conditions would be like this in November and still didn't change it to their main national stadium with drainage.

[rugs]

Here are the highlights https://youtu.be/Ia5zf1UUpOs
You can again see that the conditions are better than in Malaysia. For some reason you're picking pictures that don't really represent how the game went. The game had 4 goals.

The game was also played in Morrocco where I'm pretty sure conditions like this are unprecedented. Compare this to Malaysia where they knew very well and beforehand that the conditions would be like this in November and still didn't change it to their main national stadium with drainage.

Riiiight. It was so good the ball wouldn't bounce or roll and the players union demanded an investigation....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...h-Morocco.html

But you know, it was really a conspiracy....

[Omids]

Riiiight. It was so good the ball wouldn't bounce or roll and the players union demanded an investigation....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...h-Morocco.html

But you know, it was really a conspiracy....

Not sure what you are trying to say here. So because a game was played on a water logged pitch 2 years ago it was ok for the game to happen in the mud pool in Malaysia??

And if you notice at the bottom of the same article you posted, changes were made by FIFA right after that:

"Referee Noumandiez Doue of Ivory Coast allowed the match to proceed, and Cruz Azul won, setting up a semi-final with Real Madrid.
FIFA switched the semi-final match to Marrakech, citing 'difficult pitch conditions.' "

[rugs]

Not sure what you are trying to say here. So because a game was played on a water logged pitch 2 years ago it was ok for the game to happen in the mud pool in Malaysia??
And if you notice at the bottom of the same article you posted, changes were made by FIFA right after that:
"Referee Noumandiez Doue of Ivory Coast allowed the match to proceed, and Cruz Azul won, setting up a semi-final with Real Madrid.
FIFA switched the semi-final match to Marrakech, citing 'difficult pitch conditions.' "

I'm saying it's not a conspiracy against Iran or any other team and I find it ridiculous that people think it is when we have so many examples of it happening in other parts of the world.

No pitch that puts players at risk is acceptable. That doesn't mean there was a conspiracy behind it.

[Nariman]

I am sorry, but these random comparisons make no sense. Just like the one Ekbatan & pdot posted, there is a big difference! So before someone else uses Google to find some random example to defend AFC and deny the obvious corruption, let me once again point out the clear difference:


It was NO SURPIRSE to see the field in Malaysia like that. At that time of the year it was very well predictable long time ago. Comparing that to the examples some posted here you will see it started to snow/rain DURING THE GAME and it was not predictable, but at least they treated the field (or because of drainage system) and things became better in the second half - while vs. Syria the field was already full of mud BEFORE THE GAME and the field became only worse minute by minute.

+ you see other examples were investigated, while AFC will just get away with it as if everything was fair....
+ it's the amount of decisions that went against Iran in the past - single examples here & there from around the world don't make sense here...


See the difference now?
No?


Let me again sum up the most important points:


- CQ asked for another venue months ago because of the monsoon problem / anyone with a simple research could have predicted that the field will be like that on game day.

- Double standards. The 2nd tier of the stadium has no seats, while at the same time AFC demanded IFF to install seats for Azadi.

- The Saudi Iraq game was moved to a better stadium / why didn’t they at least use that for the Iran game as well?

- The field was already full of mud & water many hours before the game even started. Delaying the match didn’t change anything, absolutely zero. They didn’t treat the field, neither did the field became better - in fact things only became worse. All mind-games...

- Unlike what people say the field was bad for both teams, it was Syria who benefited the most. Iran is a strong team, maybe tactically the best in Asia. Honestly football wise Syria has nothing much to offer to really be on our level. So that's why Iran suffered the most, as we couldn’t build up our usual game plan and our flow was diminished because of the field. Our aim was to get 3 points, while Syria only wanted to get a point at best. This field made it much easier for them to kick the ball aways and prevent Iran from penetrating their penalty box - with quick moves/passes - cause the ball didn’t roll.

- The usual disgusting time wasting by arabs. Their GK started it already in the first half, around min 15 if I remember correctly! Their #15, their second captain, probably will join Bollywood soon, he actually should have been sent off. Their #7 just underlined their true "tactic" while being substituted, their coach went crazy & even pushed his own assistant away - none of these dirty and shameful gestures were punished by the referee.

- A legit goal of Iran was denied.

- The referee didn't add any extra time despite Syria wasting so much time. 4 minutes only and in those 4 minutes they wasted time again (review their GK).

.....


Please add if I forgot something. Now if you put all points on one paper you will see why we rightfully have to be angry about the conditions for the Syria game. It's fine to discuss, that's why we have the forum after all, but lets me honest: We are on page 13 (+ the pages in the other thread) and we still have seen no valid argument from the members in support of AFC - while the rest actually provided dozen of valid points to prove their point. All we have seen from the other side of the argument are nonsense one-liners like: "you are racists, we are all people, conspiracy, AFC is not vs. Iran, you are pussies, don’t cry, don’t complain".... or random examples and senseless comparison with other matches from the past.


Be honest to yourself and let’s stop with this loser mentality to just ignore the obvious decisions against our team throughout all the years. If this was the first time then maybe we could have said that it was just poor planning, but it wasn't and we have seen enough suspicious decisions like that. What else has to happen and how much do we have to suffer until we all unite and realize the true face of AFC and all these corrupted organizations?



EDIT:

Just when I posted this several other points came into my mind, really don't know where to start - so many obvious facts...but let me end all this once again with the following video:

https://youtu.be/idip48bEZqU?t=16m22s

I'm out.

[rugs]

Who could've predicted sub zero temperatures and snow in Colorado?!?

Must be a conspiracy against Costa Rica.

If FIFA wasn't against Costa Rica, they probably would have won the 2014 WC instead of finishing 8th...

[Ghermez Agha]

Who could've predicted sub zero temperatures and snow in Colorado?!?

Must be a conspiracy against Costa Rica.

If FIFA wasn't against Costa Rica, they probably would have won the 2014 WC instead of finishing 8th...

Costa Rica agreed to play in those conditions they were asked prior to kick off and they agreed....after the lost they complained to FIFA.

[euphory]

Who could've predicted sub zero temperatures and snow in Colorado?!?

Must be a conspiracy against Costa Rica.

If FIFA wasn't against Costa Rica, they probably would have won the 2014 WC instead of finishing 8th...

that is totally playable. the players can clearly see the ball as the ball is in a different colour! the state of the field is definately playable. and we have seen that many times that they have played under such circumstances where there is snow or heavy rain. the problem here is that the field was not up to standards at the moment of the match because of the monsoon season and AFC knew it already months before. dibt try to deny the fact that it was all set up. some of you people are trying to be too kind towards other nations and confederations. our rights were taken in this match, and this move by asian confederation was purely political because the arabs controling afc and the arabs of the middle east cannot see iran topping the group and set 1 foot already in the world cup by the end of the 1st half of the qualifications!

[GolfePersique]

As Nariman said, fore-warnings were given months ahead of the game in terms of weather conditions, pitch quality, stadium/facility standards, but no one took notice of it.

It is not difficult to bring up numerous examples of playing under extreme conditions, but when the situation was easily predictable, measures could have been taken to avoid such situation.

The minimum requirement was moving the match to a nearby stadium in Kuala Lumpur with FIFA standards. We all know Malaysia is not short of good facilities.

AFC, Malaysian FA and FIFA failed/refused to recognize the predictable shortcomings, hence the fans frustration. Even the likes of Ghalenoei admitted that these conditions were unacceptable.



This was caught on the same field before the match.

TM staff also had reported lots of rats in the stadium a running of the field just before the start of the rain!



Takhlyeh chah Toalet

[rugs]

Costa Rica agreed to play in those conditions they were asked prior to kick off and they agreed....after the lost they complained to FIFA.

that is totally playable. the players can clearly see the ball as the ball is in a different colour! the state of the field is definately playable. and we have seen that many times that they have played under such circumstances where there is snow or heavy rain. the problem here is that the field was not up to standards at the moment of the match because of the monsoon season and AFC knew it already months before. dibt try to deny the fact that it was all set up. some of you people are trying to be too kind towards other nations and confederations. our rights were taken in this match, and this move by asian confederation was purely political because the arabs controling afc and the arabs of the middle east cannot see iran topping the group and set 1 foot already in the world cup by the end of the 1st half of the qualifications!

You couldn't see the lines on the pitch and the Costa Rican's complained when the conditions got even worse in the second half, not after losing.

But of course it makes sense that it fell on deaf ears as there has always been a conspiracy against Costa Rica.....

[Doctor DOOM]

I am sorry, but these random comparisons make no sense. Just like the one Ekbatan & pdot posted, there is a big difference! So before someone else uses Google to find some random example to defend AFC and deny the obvious corruption, let me once again point out the clear difference:


It was NO SURPIRSE to see the field in Malaysia like that. At that time of the year it was very well predictable long time ago. Comparing that to the examples some posted here you will see it started to snow/rain DURING THE GAME and it was not predictable, but at least they treated the field (or because of drainage system) and things became better in the second half - while vs. Syria the field was already full of mud BEFORE THE GAME and the field became only worse minute by minute.

+ you see other examples were investigated, while AFC will just get away with it as if everything was fair....
+ it's the amount of decisions that went against Iran in the past - single examples here & there from around the world don't make sense here...


See the difference now?
No?


Let me again sum up the most important points:


- CQ asked for another venue months ago because of the monsoon problem / anyone with a simple research could have predicted that the field will be like that on game day.

- Double standards. The 2nd tier of the stadium has no seats, while at the same time AFC demanded IFF to install seats for Azadi.

- The Saudi Iraq game was moved to a better stadium / why didn’t they at least use that for the Iran game as well?

- The field was already full of mud & water many hours before the game even started. Delaying the match didn’t change anything, absolutely zero. They didn’t treat the field, neither did the field became better - in fact things only became worse. All mind-games...

- Unlike what people say the field was bad for both teams, it was Syria who benefited the most. Iran is a strong team, maybe tactically the best in Asia. Honestly football wise Syria has nothing much to offer to really be on our level. So that's why Iran suffered the most, as we couldn’t build up our usual game plan and our flow was diminished because of the field. Our aim was to get 3 points, while Syria only wanted to get a point at best. This field made it much easier for them to kick the ball aways and prevent Iran from penetrating their penalty box - with quick moves/passes - cause the ball didn’t roll.

- The usual disgusting time wasting by arabs. Their GK started it already in the first half, around min 15 if I remember correctly! Their #15, their second captain, probably will join Bollywood soon, he actually should have been sent off. Their #7 just underlined their true "tactic" while being substituted, their coach went crazy & even pushed his own assistant away - none of these dirty and shameful gestures were punished by the referee.

- A legit goal of Iran was denied.

- The referee didn't add any extra time despite Syria wasting so much time. 4 minutes only and in those 4 minutes they wasted time again (review their GK).

hey buddy, you dont know jack. You're wrong and we have plenty of technical and perfectly logical arguments like you're all racists, and cant accept how fair AFC is.

so what if all our denials make us look like attention whores? The point is to continue working against ppl's reasoning and logic, so ppl take notice of us and pay attention to our drivel. So what if we've got bloody amnesia that such crap happens almost in every tournament we take part in. No. The point is ye'all are frigging racists.

Now, Git. scamp. vamoos and stop hating on ay-rabs and AFC

[Ghermez Agha]

You couldn't see the lines on the pitch and the Costa Rican's complained when the conditions got even worse in the second half, not after losing.

But of course it makes sense that it fell on deaf ears as there has always been a conspiracy against Costa Rica.....

Lol rugs you're a smart guy. I don't understand how you're actually bringing up isolated incidents here and there and compare it to a country/federation who has been subject to a long list (which has already been provided) of unjustifiable behavior. That's the bigger and obvious picture.

[rugs]

Lol rugs you're a smart guy. I don't understand how you're actually bringing up isolated incidents here and there and compare it to a country/federation who has been subject to a long list (which has already been provided) of unjustifiable behavior. That's the bigger and obvious picture.

That's fine, but controlling the weather isn't one of them.

Every country/federation has a long list of grievances against FIFA, many much stronger than ours.

But to waste our time crying foul because of something unpredictable like the weather is absurd and childish, especially when there are much larger issues.

[Omids]

That's fine, but controlling the weather isn't one of them.
Every country/federation has a long list of grievances against FIFA, many much stronger than ours.
But to waste our time crying foul because of something unpredictable like the weather is absurd and childish, especially when there are much larger issues.

What about the blatant time wasting? Do you think FIFA and AFC have any control over that?

It is a disgusting display and brings the whole game into disrepute. Isnt 'fair play' the FIFA motto? I know some teams draw fouls and players go down in a heap like the S American teams but they don't play act and lie on the ground every 2 minutes and wasting 20 mins of the game time, this seems to be the speciality of the middle-eastern Arab nations. Do you think FIFA can and should do something about that? Is that within their control?

[pajamNL]

I've been watching Team Melli for a long time now, like most of us here.

claiming NO agenda AGAINST Iran in AFC reminds me ;

***** AFC and their Arab masters