2018 AFC U-16 Championship

[inarsenewetrust]

the criticism of chamanian is RIDICULOUS. This man led the most successful iranian team in an international tournament, EVER. And before somebody says that it was just because of his players... He literally revamped the entire u17 age group and made it a regional program like volleyball, where scouts make teams from each region in iran, then they meet in a big tournament and play round robin matches against each other, and chamanian and coaching staff single handedly pick the best of the best, after taking detailed notes on every player. He is a gem for our football. His last u17 effectively won the last AFC u16, as they lost ok PK's to an iraqi team we have learned was overage and is now disqualified. His achievement deserve more respect than ridiculing his looks and moustache, which I personally think are badass lol.

The players on the pitch have not performed. No two ways about it. But they are 16! And you guys are insulting them worse or on the same level you do regular tm stars. Have some perspective

[Ardalan]

Agar yek keshvari zirbana va farhange footballesh ostovar va ba-barnameh baashe ba teamhaayi manande Indonesie va Hendoostan kam nemiyaare.

Agar nakhostin bar in rokh midad migoftim tajrobeye khobi bood va yad migirim, amma in dastan dar radehaaye nojavan va omid TEKRARIE.

Shoma berid keshvarhaayi manande Paraguay ra negah konid ke ba inke in hame mohajer daare bekhatere faghr va kamboode eghdesaadi va az

Iran faghirtar ast be har haal dar radehaaye javanan team mellish amalkarde kobi neshon mide va in hame bazikone khob parvaresh mide.

Kollan masaleye Iran va Khavare Miyaneh ine ke farhange footballi besyaar payine va zirbana shol o bibarnameh.

[St_Mark]

Australia 2:1 Iraq

Iraq's last game is versus S Korea. Most likely they are out.

[St_Mark]

باید منتظر ظهور قدرت های جدید در فوتبال آسیا باشیم


عباس چمنیان


سرمربی تیم ملی نوجوانان ایران معتقد است با وجود کسب یک امتیاز از دو بازی ابتدایی هنوز می توان به اتفاقات روز پایانی مرحله گروهی رقابت ها امیدوار بود.



به گزارش سایت رسمی فدراسیون فوتبال، عباس چمنیان ابتدا در خصوص مسابقه اول تیم ملی نوجوانان در مسابقات قهرمانی آسیا برابر اندونزی گفت:ما بازی اول را روی غافلگیری واگذار کردیم. بچه ها در یک استادیوم بزرگ و تا حدودی متفاوت به میدان رفتند که برای این رده سنی فشار روانی زیادی ایجاد می کند. از سویی حدود 10هزار هوادار از حریف حمایت می کرد و بارندگی شدید هم روی جریان بازی تاثیر داشت.

همان ابتدا از حریف گل دریافت کردیم که فشارها را بیشتر کرد و در ادامه هرچه تلاش کردیم نتوانستیم نتیجه را جبران کنیم. کارمان خیلی سخت شد و در نهایت بازی را واگذار کردیم. طبیعتا باختن بازی اول در یک تورنمنت خیلی اتفاق بدی است و موجب می شود فشار زیادی به تیم وارد شود.


سرمربی تیم ملی فوتبال نوجوانان به شرایط دومین مسابقه شاگردانش برابر هند اشاره کرد و گفت: در بازی دوم انگیزه زیادی برای جبران نتیجه داشتیم و عملکرد بهتری هم داشتیم. شایسته پیروزی در این بازی بودیم اما اینبار علاوه بر اینکه بعضی از ضربات آخر را خوب نزدیم بدشانسی هم در نتیجه تاثیر داشت. یک پنالتی را از دست دادیم، توپ را به تیرک دروازه زدیم ، می توانستیم برنده مسابقه باشیم اما دروازه بان حریف بهترین عملکرد را داشت و به عنوان بهترین بازیکن زمین انتخاب شد. البته هندی ها در ده دقیقه پایانی به دنبال اتلاف وقت و حفظ نتیجه بودند.

طبیعتا این بازی تاخیری هم در روند کار تاثیر داشت و حالا باید بگویم کار ما سخت تر شده است.
چمنیان در خصوص شانس صعود نوجوانان به مرحله بعدی رقابت ها اظهار داشت:ما هنوز این شانس را داریم که به عنوان تیم دوم صعود کنیم. باید امیدوار به نتیجه مناسب در بازی اندونزی و هند باشیم تا خودمان با شکست ویتنام صعود کنیم. همه تلاشمان را می کنیم از نظر روانی تیم را در وضعیت خوبی قرار بدهیم و انگیزه های لازم را در بچه ها ایجاد کنیم. همچنین احتمالا تغییراتی در ترکیب تیم خواهیم داشت تا با بهترین ترکیب به مصاف ویتنام برویم و صعود کنیم.

سرمربی تیم ملی نوجوانان ایران در پایان با اشاره به تغییر معادلات فوتبال آسیا خصوصا در سطوح پایه گفت:باید در انتظار ظهور قدرت های تازه در فوتبال آسیا باشیم. من بعد از قرعه کشی این مسابقات گفته بودم که بر خلاف تصورات به هیچ وجه در گروه آسانی قرار نداریم.

کشورهایی مثل اندونزی و هند پیشرفت و سرمایه گذاری چشم گیری در سطح پایه داشته اند و می بینیم که ویتنام در رده زیر 21 سال به قهرمانی آسیا می رسد. در مورد این مسابقات هم باید بگویم که هیچ تیم ضعیفی در اینجا وجود ندارد. همه تیم ها به واقع مدعی و قدرتمند هستند. موازنه قوا تغییر کرده و فاصله ها نزدیک شده است.

فوتبال ما هم باید به دنبال تلاش گسترده در سطوح پایه باشد تا از فوتبال آسیا عقب نمانیم. این تنها وظیفه فدراسیون و تیم های ملی پایه نیست. باشگاهها هم باید نقش خودشان را باور کنند و در سطوح پایه فعالیت مفید و موثر داشته باشند.

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[Futbaldoost]

The east and south Asian countries like Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia and India have been making investments in their grassroots football and it is now paying off. This is not the Asia of the past. Chamanian talked about this before the tournament started and is attempting to bring a new level of awareness. He is the exact type of leadership that is capable of learning from this and recreate our recent past successes at U16 and U17 levels.

On another note, we are all entitled to our opinions about macro politics in Iran. Of course the realities of such politics impact our football and its development at all levels. Yet, the reality on the ground is that there are people like Chamanian and even Taj (he is more ideological than Chamanina of course) who are working hard to make a difference within the constraints of the existing system. I honor them for that. Are they perfect? No and none of us are either. We all have the right to expect more for our country and for our compatriots and I acknowledge that aspiration ... and I continue to salute people who everyday work hard in Iran to make a difference and Chamanian and Taj are such people.

On a related note, Taj has taken IFF to a new level in terms of investing in our young women. In addition to our Asian Futsal championship twice in a row our U16 women's football team just made it to the second round of Asian Championship. Our U19 women beat Jordan U19 3-1 in Tehran a few days ago. They are coached by Katayoon Khosrowyar who moved to Iran from the U.S. to develop women's football and won an award for it (http://www.womenssoccerunited.com/ka...u-coach-award/). She is another person who is working hard within the constraints of IR to make a difference with our young women.

[Doctor DOOM]

1- some fans have unreal expectations from such an age category.
not only it is difficult to see highly efficient games from such age groups, especially in a country like ours, but the in the list of top performers, many traditional powers of football are missing. Due to the inconsistency of this age.



2- I wonder what and how was the preparation of the team in the run up to the tourney.
Maybe StMark can lightly go over.

But given IFF and Iran's tradition, I seriously doubt much was done in order to prepare these kids
so howmuchever you invest, that much you reap.

[Siavash]

I haven't seen any of the games, but losing to these teams and tieing to India is just rediclus. Watching the highlights of the first two games it appeared they got us on counter attack buy scoring simple goals against TM16. Also it looks like they were defending against TM16 by parking in front of their goals. Plus our boys did not seem to be ready mentally. Under these circumstances TM16 needed to emp!oy tactics similar to the one used by CQ as starter to score a goal. But eago of these vatani coaches won't allow them to follow CQ, of course.

[St_Mark]

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Since qualification game Sep 2017 in Iran ( one of the hosts ) which advanced as group head, U16 had training camps every 50 days. In addition, they had games with Syria and Oman in Iran and 3 tours abroad, Jordan, China, and Azerbaijan. They had one bad result (1:3) in Jordan but several good wins.
U16 during training camps in Iran has played various U20 age groups clubs of lig 1 or two.
They had not played in a similar environment like Malaysia or rainy weather.
In comparison to other age groups in Iran, their training has been better but as it was evident during two games in Malaysia, their physical fitness is poor and mentally unprepared for the stretch.

without strong power forward they have chosen to play 442 formations hoping for counter attacks and win with a low score.
They have failed to score in two games in the group stage and that has not been the case for years.
Chamanian will be under pressure to make some changes for the last game because the team need to score more than a goal and will be forced to go with 3 Forwards formation, something he should have done against India.

[Siavash]

If India and Andonasia tie both advance to second round. The only hope we have is Andonasia to win against India and we beat Vietnam by at least two goals. So our chance is 50/50.

[Tehranto]

If India and Andonasia tie both advance to second round. The only hope we have is Andonasia to win against India and we beat Vietnam by at least two goals. So our chance is 50/50.

This team cannot score two goals. Sad that India has a better U16 team than us.

[St_Mark]

If India and Indonesia tie both advances to second round. The only hope we have is Indonesia to win against India and we beat Vietnam by at least two goals. So our chance is 50/50.

Exercise in futility; Yellow cards. advancing by one goal.

Not that this might happen but just for exploring weird possibilities or Saudi Luck scenario ( Saudi once advanced by lesser of yellow cards)

Since we are in the hail mary zone and talking about possibilities.... Iran should be careful about yellow cards against Vietnam.

Hail Mary Scenario.

What if Indonesia win by two (2:0) but Iran win by 1?
Indonesia=7 Points
India = 4 points ,-1 GD
Iran=4 points , -1 GD

The deciding factor will be yellow cards
As it stands India 4 Y & Iran 3Y.

[Ardalan]

1- some fans have unreal expectations from such an age category.
not only it is difficult to see highly efficient games from such age groups, especially in a country like ours, but the in the list of top performers, many traditional powers of football are missing. Due to the inconsistency of this age.



2- I wonder what and how was the preparation of the team in the run up to the tourney.
Maybe StMark can lightly go over.

But given IFF and Iran's tradition, I seriously doubt much was done in order to prepare these kids
so howmuchever you invest, that much you reap.

Noghteye yek manteghi bod agar yek seri kambodhaa dar HAMEYE radehaaye team melliye nojavan va omid dideh nemishod:

1.Kambood ya kollan nabodane BAAZISAAZI baraye residan be golzani ya daste kam ijade mogheiyate golzani.

2. Takraviye bijah va bimogheye TEKRARI dar toole baazi be jaaye paaskaariye BARNAMERIZI-SHODEH baraye ijade mogheiyate golzani.

3. Natavaniye baazi dar omgh az tarighe toophaaye zamini, ke natijaash "man mizanam ziresh va to bodo" mishe, ke yek shiveye kamelan bihodeh ast.

4. Kare defaiye na-hamahang dar yargiri va dadane fazahaaye besyaar ziyad dar faaze defai be harif dar toole baazi

In noghtehaa az teame zire 16 dideh mishe ta zire 23, va taghriban har saal ham dalile natijehaaye zaif roberooye harifhaaye asiayii mibashad.

Aslan kesi teame Hendoostan ra did? Aslan be nazar miresidan baazikone Badminton bashan, na teknike paye daashtan va dar toophaaye havai besyaar zaif boodan, amma ma natonemstim az noghte zafeshon estefadeh konim.

[St_Mark]

Japan 2:0 Malaysia
Thailand 1:2 Tajikistan

Japan & Tajikistan advanced
Malaysia & Thailand go home.

	AFC U16	16:45	Iran U16		Vietnam U16

	AFC U16	16:45	Indonesia U16		India U16

[St_Mark]

Teams that have advanced or advancing:

Group A: Japan & Tajikistan
Group B: N. Korea & Oman
Group C: Indonesia & ????
Group D: S. Korea & Australia

2016 Champion Iraq is almost out. They need to beat S. Korea & Australia win low score against Afghan.
2016 Runnerup Iran has a chance if they beat Vietnam ( ≥2) & India lose.
Saudi Arabia & Uzbekistan were eliminated during qualification round.

N.Korea & Japan, Australia most likely will make it to the WC U17.

Let's hope Iran advance from group C to play against S. Korea for WC U17 chance.

[bahbah]

will there be any livestream?