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LOL! So he practically blames his team defeat due to the absent of bunch of kiddos(Nourafkan, Hosseini), only Nourafkan pretty much played most of their matches last season, what Rahmati, Montazeri, Heydari, Ghafouri, Dejparov, SHojaeian, Beitsaeid, Shahbazzadeh, Cheshmi were doing against Sanat Naft then? He almost had 95% of his starting line up and is not like they faced Persepolis.
Typical Iranian siah-baazi, be a man and accept the defeat!
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Originally posted by Amin_ View PostIn case some of you did not realize, Mansourian's comments had deeper roots than just "whining about missing 1 or 2 players". I don't know how some missed that...
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Originally posted by Iran_19 View PostHe kept repeating we lost the game because we didn't have 3 key young players, i am not saying his reasoning vs Saket is right or wrong(he can be right though), but would he go nuts if the result have been on his team's favor? Absolutely not!
Actually considering all the shit he and his team had to endure last season with all the enormous blunders in the management and all that, I think relatively he has been quite silent. But if our influential players and coaches keep silent all the time, nothing will change.
So sure, he was a little emotional, but that definitely is not only due to having missed 1 or 2 players in this match or only because we lost, like some people make it look like.Last edited by Amin_; 08-01-2017, 02:24 AM.Persian Pride running through my veins!
Esteghlal for life!!
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Yes, let's not invite Montazeri, Ebrahimi and Ghafouri etc. again as long as Mansourian is still Esteghlal's coach because some think that he is a bad coach.
So yeah, screw looking at the performance, form and overall conditions of players...the NT coach should select players based on how good or "patriotic" their coaches are.Last edited by Amin_; 08-01-2017, 10:24 AM.Persian Pride running through my veins!
Esteghlal for life!!
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Originally posted by St_Mark View PostCQ should not invite any Esteghlal player for TM for foreseeable future.
Mansourian is not a good coach nor a patriot.
Esteghlal has several TM quality players such Ebrahimi, Ghafouri, Montazeri,and now Shojaeian.
Players should be selected on being able to represent the country in a positive way, not based off what club they play for.
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CQ will not listen to your request.
Correct, CQ only listens to himself and close circle assistants. If he decides to react to Esteghlal & Mansourian disgraceful act it will be on his own only.
According to various reports Selection of Peiravaniy was checked with CQ with blessings and his hope that young team will do well. Same reports suggested that CQ will monitor U23 progress as much as he could with interest.
If that report is correct, then weakening U23 team and action against it will constitute if not hostile , but not in the same line of policy of CQ.
CQ actually likes Mansourian.
CQ at any time can like or dislike any assistant, officials…. He like people who are in line with him and easily will reject same people if situation change.
If CQ perceives he has in any way been an obstacle for U23, will reject him.
Esteghlal has several TM quality players such Ebrahimi, Ghafouri, Montazeri, and now Shojaeian.
Yes , they are quality players but contrary to what you may think quality is not the only factor for the invitation to NT.
Conduct of a coach or club management toward NT can be a factor in not inviting a player from a club regardless of his quality.
IFF managers are weak otherwise Mansourian should have been banned by now because of his mischiefs.
Last.
Perhaps you know CQ much better and will do as you suggested, but if some of the gossip
The reports are true CQ may already despise him even before this episode.
Don’t take my words for it.
NOT new but.....
شنیده میشود سرمربی تیم ملی فوتبال کشورمان تمایل چندانی به دعوت از بازیکنان استقلال ندارد.
کارلوس کی روش چند روز پیش فهرستی ۲۰ نفره را برگزاری اردوی تیم ملی فوتبالکشورمان در کشور اتریش و دیدار تدارکاتی مقابل مونت نگرو اعلام کرد که نامی از بازیکنان استقلال و پرسپولیس در آن دیده نمی شد.البته در فهرستی که برای دیدار مقابل ازبکستان در مرحله نهایی مسابقات انتخابی جام جهانی ۲۰۱۸ اعلام می شود قطعا چندین بازیکن از جمع سرخابی ها دعوت می شوند اما احتمالا مانند گذشته سهم آبی پوشان چندان زیاد نخواهد بود.در اردوهای گذشته استقلالی ها در بهترین حالت ۳ نماینده داشتند
. امید ابراهیمی به قدری خوب بوده که کی روش کمتر توانسته روی نامش خط قرمز بکشد و وریا غفوری هم با وجود مصدومیت های متعدد در فهرست سرمربی تیم ملی قرار داشته اما هیچ گاه نامی از امید نورافکن، فرشید اسماعیلی و مخصوصا کاوه رضایی نبوده است.رضایی به شدت از عدم دعوت خود به تیم ملی ناراحت است چرا که گفته می شد با وعده ملی پوش شدن از سوی علیرضا منصوریاندر ابتدای فصل پذیرفت که استقلالی شود
.حالا شنیده می شود کی روش تمایل چندانی به دعوت از بازیکنان استقلال ندارد. همان طور که نوشته بودیم ظاهرا کی روش به محمدحسین کنعانی زاده هم گفته از استقلال جدا شود به تیمی دیگر برود. حالا این صحب ها در مورد غفوری هم مطرح شده و گفته می شود او هم از جمع آبی پوشان خواهد رفت.همچنین کاوه رضایی که بهترین گلزن و پاسور استقلال در لیگ برتر شانزدهم بوده از دعوت به تیم ملی ناامید شده و قصد دارد به تیمی دیگر نقل مکان کند تا شاید نظر کی روش جلب شود. ظاهرا کیروش تمایلی ندارد بازیکنی را از جمع شاگردان علیرضا منصوریان به تیم ملی دعوت کند.Last edited by St_Mark; 08-01-2017, 09:37 AM.
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The guy who says god damn this god damn that on TV does not deserve to coach a team that is known internationally. He used a player with two yellow cards when he was the coah of U23 team, he lost the best chance to be in the olympic. Sorry I hate to judge a book by the over but he does not look like a coach. can he run 2 or 3 miles? time to fire him and send him to azadegan league. if he brings a team to PGL then he can promote himself. foul language or losing a game is not aceptable. I read somewhere else a parliamanet member punched a guard who asked him for ID as he did not have with him
The coahes that are fed rom beitolmal need to attend coaching and fitness training program once a week.
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Unfortunately the IPL and Iranian Football in general soon or later make every an a$$hole, it is just a matter of the time, Mansourian is another example. Look what happened to Daei, Azizi, Derakhshan and the rest, the only ones who became half decent persons are the ones who skipped from this shit(Hashemian, Kia).
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