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    I believe Karimi wants the best for our football in general, sure, however, I was surprised how Saket could easily answer all of the individual points Karimi brought up. It could be because Karimi looked stressed and did not come out of his words most of the time, while Saket was very prepared and calm and had evidences/arguments for every issue brought up. In some instances even Adel, who usually takes every chance to crap over the federation, agreed with Saket's points.

    What was hard to see is Karimi's issue with CQ, which did not come across as being sincere about the well-being of TM, but rather he looked kind of butt-hurt about something. In his interview after Sepidrood's game and in 90 he kept on bringing up CQ's staff decision making, constantly questioning Sebastian's appointment for example, to which Saket correctly kept saying that it is the head coach's right to choose his own staff and so far he has been successful, so no complaints there.

    Saket basically said that the federation tries its best to comply to most of CQ's wishes in order to make TM successful in the run towards the WC and during the WC.
    Karimi also made an issue about CQ's salary and the time he spends in Iran, exactly issues people like MK and likes has brought up time after time over the years. Next to that, the timing is not really helpful either, being just a few months from the start of the WC.

    Karimi always says that he knows a lot of stuff and that "when the time is right" he will expose everything and everyone. He has done this a few times over the last decade, even when he still used to play football. Even Saket at one instance said "well if you have something to say or reveal you can do it now and here". Karimi also mentioned that CQ wasn't the trainer he thought he would be when he started working with him, which again was a little vague tbh.


    Anyway, I think it would have been better if Karimi brought up the bigger issues and problems in our football rather than little individual matters, which could easily been argued against, like Saket did. Also, he should be more prepared and calm next time imo.
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      Nice, not only did he ruin the atmosphere and team harmony in 2006 but he's pulled the same shit again. This has been the only time things seemed to be going well with the preparations and without any hashieh but Karimi just couldn't shut his mouth, could he?!

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        Carlos Queiroz
        Dear all,
        Unfortunately, my strong believe that in life you can buy talent but you can never buy character become a fact.
        In due time I will answer to Mr Quiter. In the right place in the right moment. It was very clear that Mr Quiter was much better with the feet and head rather than the tongue and brains.
        His disrespectful words, lies, fake and coward accusations only undermine himself, loosing self respect, embarrassing 124 caps, his team mates and Football.
        There is no doubt that he needs some help.
        CQ


        This is the exact post of Carlos. He accuses karimi for being a quitter, which is interesting. I really love Karimi but some of the accusations he made especially after he once himself was a colleague of Carlos was in my opinion distasteful and unfair.
        I don't know about you guys but to me, some parts of Karimi´s behaviour, some of his expressions in the face and some of his talks appear quiet abnormal.
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          Originally posted by Mr Pouya View Post
          Nice, not only did he ruin the atmosphere and team harmony in 2006 but he's pulled the same shit again. This has been the only time things seemed to be going well with the preparations and without any hashieh but Karimi just couldn't shut his mouth, could he?!
          2006 was a whole different story please do not mix the issue. Many great players from that team sided with Karimi. He was right back then, because the corrupted mafia gang had a lot of influence on national team back then. They forced Ali Daei who was a waste of space upon team. A lazy old and proud Ali Daei who was 37 and lacked anything positive just for the sake of adding to his records. Or adding Rasoul Khatibi while leaving a lot of talented players out of NT squad. Branko back then was truly with no backbone. Even now he doesn't have the enough power and discipline that CQ has now. I totally support Karimi for 2006. It was all on Daei. If you have ever watched those matches or followed the team closely you could confirm this that Daei was one of the most hated players back then.

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            Originally posted by PersianLegion View Post
            2006 was a whole different story please do not mix the issue. Many great players from that team sided with Karimi. He was right back then, because the corrupted mafia gang had a lot of influence on national team back then. They forced Ali Daei who was a waste of space upon team. A lazy old and proud Ali Daei who was 37 and lacked anything positive just for the sake of adding to his records. Or adding Rasoul Khatibi while leaving a lot of talented players out of NT squad. Branko back then was truly with no backbone. Even now he doesn't have the enough power and discipline that CQ has now. I totally support Karimi for 2006. It was all on Daei. If you have ever watched those matches or followed the team closely you could confirm this that Daei was one of the most hated players back then.
            It was on Daei and Branko adn Karimi.

            All 3 were idiots. Branko should have kicked both out of TM for insubordination and causing drama in TM.
            Smarter players like Hashemian and Mahdavikia tried to keep the drama low and not side with anyone, but all of the young players (Kazemian, Borhani, Nosrati...) either sdied with Daei or Karimi and made things worse. It was shameful how Karimi and Daei couldn't find a way to put aside their differences for TM. They ruined the best TM we ever sent to a World Cup.

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              Thanks but no thanks mr. Karimi

              Ali Karimi

              1. Terrible timing....Couldn't keep all your 'secrets' till after WC?

              2. Any fair-minded person could see that Karimi lost the debate.

              3. Karimi lost more respect by participating.

              4. Criticizing is easy...Iranian national flaw. Building is hard...Karimi never built anything.

              5. 'Quitter' resonates with Iranians living outside Iran but this character flaw is unrecognized in Iran. The reverse is true in Iran where people constantly threaten or تعارف to resign. Sticking it out and trying to improve things is much harder. Karimi is a true quitter as he quit from TM twice as player and coach and already is on his 2nd team this season because of a text message ta'arof resignation.

              6. Ali Daie has many flaws but achieved far more than Karimi because of much stronger character. Yes in 2006 I thought Daie should fill in for Karimi not the reverse but Karimi did not achieve much when given the chance.

              7. Really Silence is Golden. Hashemian and Mahdavikia are head and neck above Karimi in terms of character. They are builders too. Compare with Azizi and Karimi who leave nothing past their playing careers.

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                Originally posted by shahname View Post
                Carlos Queiroz
                Dear all,
                Unfortunately, my strong believe that in life you can buy talent but you can never buy character become a fact.
                In due time I will answer to Mr Quiter. In the right place in the right moment. It was very clear that Mr Quiter was much better with the feet and head rather than the tongue and brains.
                His disrespectful words, lies, fake and coward accusations only undermine himself, loosing self respect, embarrassing 124 caps, his team mates and Football.
                There is no doubt that he needs some help.
                CQ
                This is the exact post of Carlos......

                jesus ... way to go belittling yourself, CQ!
                As a national team manager YOUR character & tongue also cannot be respected if you immediately issue statements as soon as you hear something you dont like. I'd expect this from a teenager, not a 60+ yr old man!

                disappointed

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                    no show tonight? wtf is this

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                      2 saat sare kar mondim, so i guess no show tonight, so CQ should be on next week on monday then

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                        Originally posted by Ab-Gosht View Post
                        2 saat sare kar mondim, so i guess no show tonight, so CQ should be on next week on monday then
                        they said last week there is no show tonight

                        you could have even checked their website where they list the times

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                          Originally posted by iranghahreman View Post

                          you could have even checked their website where they list the times
                          do you have the exact url?

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                            So today CQ is in Navad? You guys have the schedule?

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                              Carlos Queiroz will NOT be on Navad tonight according to Gol Bezan. They have been notified directly.

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                                Great show last night. duscussion about Pas Tehran was great by Ferdosipour

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