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    #46
    I am starting to change my mind. There is something about Beiranvand that's not adding up. He looks so lost anytime a low shot comes towards him. The saves that he makes don't seem to come from good positioning but rather a random reflex. When his positioning has to be good, he looks completely lost. I think we need to test Haghighi in the friendlies now since we don't know how he will perform (and we know generally how Beirnavand will perform). At least he has better positioning and more confidence. He isn't solid by any means but we need to try him. These two goals today on Beiranvand were a warning (similar to his Goals vs Syria).
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    --Moharrami----Hosseini--Kanaani----Amiri--
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    --Jahanbaksh---------Ghoddos------------Taremi--
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      #47
      Originally posted by naderb94 View Post
      Idk if I am crazy but I think Haghighi isn't even top 5 when it comes to Iran GKs. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy and he was amazing in WC2014 but I prefer Mazaheri, Akhbari, Lak, and Sosha over him
      Honestly he wasn't. He might have overachieved against Argentina, but he was trash against Bosnia. I used to like the guy when he was with PP, but he isn't that good... definitely not starting goalie material on an international stage.

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        #48
        Beiranvand was at fault on both of the goals today vs. Sepahan and a dark reminder of the Syria match

        He needs to be benched

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          #49
          Beiranvand was good most of the time and should be without a doubt our NR. 1 and even If he wouldn't be I am worried why Haghighi should be?
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            #50
            Originally posted by AsOen5 View Post
            Beiranvand was good most of the time and should be without a doubt our NR. 1 and even If he wouldn't be I am worried why Haghighi should be?
            I originally thought the same. But syria game, and todays game vs sepahan, are changing my mind. Beiranvand sucked today vs sepahan and gave up both goals single handedly. He is too shaky with the basics at times, but his great physique enables him to make incredible saves sometimes, and regularly launch dangerous counters with his throws and kicks. He was great against Al Ahli so he has it in his locker, but he just makes too many mistakes. Unfortunately I dont think haghighi is much better, he too can be great at times but shitty other times, especially on crosses which led to his benching in TM, and beiranvand is better than him in that dept.

            Ultimately I guess we go with beiranvand at least in a couple more friendlies to see if he can redeem himself after syria performance. His distribution is great in terms of kicking and throwing, which ARH isnt. not an ideal situation imo

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              #51
              Originally posted by CAGE View Post
              In terms of skill its very close but I give the edge to Haghighi because he is much more handsome and the LGBT players will get a hard on looking at him and won't be able to concentrate on scoring. Also on the world stage Beiranvand will live up the stereotype that Iranians look like Ahmedinejad.
              Definitely rate beiranvand's looks more than you seem to. He has a defined jaw bone, which girls go crazy over!

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                #52
                It's a tough one. They both obviously have weak points and strong points:

                Haghighi's positioning is better, he is also better at reading the opponent, and has a better understanding of how goal scorers think. And overall, he makes less mistakes and seems to be more reliable and trustworthy.

                On the other hand, Beiranvand's physically superior to Haghighi without a doubt. And therefore, is better at diving. He is a bit taller and lankier, more athletic and most importantly for a GK, has a great wingspan, and long arms. His throws are on a par with the best in the world in his position.

                I am not gonna say he would have definetly saved Messi's shot in WC14, but on a good day, that's a save that Beiranvand makes 7 times out of 10. So it all depends on CQ's criterias for picking GKs, he definetly puts a lot of value in athleticism, so my guess would be Beiranvand.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by FeLFeL View Post
                  It's a tough one. They both obviously have weak points and strong points:

                  Haghighi's positioning is better, he is also better at reading the opponent, and has a better understanding of how goal scorers think. And overall, he makes less mistakes and seems to be more reliable and trustworthy.

                  On the other hand, Beiranvand's physically superior to Haghighi without a doubt. And therefore, is better at diving. He is a bit taller and lankier, more athletic and most importantly for a GK, has a great wingspan, and long arms. His throws are on a par with the best in the world in his position.

                  I am not gonna say he would have definetly saved Messi's shot in WC14, but on a good day, that's a save that Beiranvand makes 7 times out of 10. So it all depends on CQ's criterias for picking GKs, he definetly puts a lot of value in athleticism, so my guess would be Beiranvand.
                  thats a pretty good analysis. I feel like Beiranvand can make us some wonder saves, and really be dangerous with his throws and totally catch opposition off guard. But at the same time if he isnt fully concentrating he can fuck up on an easy save like todays second goal vs sepahan or syria's second goal. His exits are usually better than ARH's so even though he did fuck up today I will give him the upper hand in that area. Overall I say we go with beiranvand. PP have a good gK coach ( croatian right ? ) and hopefully he can continue to improve this year. When he is fully focussed he can make very good saves, and his physique allows him to basically do anything. ( See Al ahli performance - he was excellent)

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                    #54
                    I think in a few years time Akhbari will pass both of them. I find him more complete than these two.

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                      #55
                      Beiranvand or Haghighi for Number 1 in WC 2018

                      Originally posted by _Navid_ View Post
                      I think in a few years time Akhbari will pass both of them. I find him more complete than these two.
                      Akhbari is the best Iranian keeper in ones on ones after Rahmati, but he's less composed than other top 4-5 keepers so he f**ks up sometimes when under pressure.

                      He is still young though and has good potential to be a serious contender for number 1 soon

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Z Joon View Post
                        Akhbari is the best Iranian keeper in ones on ones after Rahmati, but he's less composed than other top 4-5 keepers so he f**ks up sometimes when under pressure.

                        He is still young though and has good potential to be a serious contender for number 1 soon
                        Agreed. His one to one reflexes are so good they have nicknamed him "inspector gadget" as his hands really open wide and close the gaps.
                        He needs to go to a good team with a good goalkeeping coach and he will become another Abedzadeh.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
                          I originally thought the same. But syria game, and todays game vs sepahan, are changing my mind. Beiranvand sucked today vs sepahan and gave up both goals single handedly. He is too shaky with the basics at times, but his great physique enables him to make incredible saves sometimes, and regularly launch dangerous counters with his throws and kicks. He was great against Al Ahli so he has it in his locker, but he just makes too many mistakes. Unfortunately I dont think haghighi is much better, he too can be great at times but shitty other times, especially on crosses which led to his benching in TM, and beiranvand is better than him in that dept.

                          Ultimately I guess we go with beiranvand at least in a couple more friendlies to see if he can redeem himself after syria performance. His distribution is great in terms of kicking and throwing, which ARH isnt. not an ideal situation imo
                          I mean even if Beiranvand is having really high highs and low lows it's not comperable with Haghighi who can't even kick a ball.
                          But yeah you are right, I wouldnt panic and wait how Beiro performs and then maybe consider any option just not Haghighi ^^
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                            #58
                            The thing with Haghighi is that hes super streaky... Sometimes he makes 5 super saves that no one else can make, and the next moment hes allowing a goal that makes u really scratch ur head.

                            Beiranvand is more consistent, and has been our WCQ keeper for a good amount of games now. Believe it or not, but changing your keep this late can disrupt chemistry with the defenders. Yes we have time to see how others perform, but right now I'm still giving the edge to Beiranvand... Unless Haghighi really steps up in a few friendlies.

                            Honestly, just trust CQ and good things will happen. Also want to see Abedzadeh tested.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Z Joon View Post
                              Akhbari is the best Iranian keeper in ones on ones after Rahmati, but he's less composed than other top 4-5 keepers so he f**ks up sometimes when under pressure.

                              He is still young though and has good potential to be a serious contender for number 1 soon
                              Originally posted by _Navid_ View Post
                              Agreed. His one to one reflexes are so good they have nicknamed him "inspector gadget" as his hands really open wide and close the gaps.
                              He needs to go to a good team with a good goalkeeping coach and he will become another Abedzadeh.
                              You guys know that the difference in age between Akhbari and Beiranvand is just 1 year, right?

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Sly View Post
                                You guys know that the difference in age between Akhbari and Beiranvand is just 1 year, right?
                                Even less, 7 months actually

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