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    #61
    To figure out the exact probabilities - we'd need to be clear on a couple of the assignment rules - anyone remember how this has gone in the past/will go now?

    We know they'll assign the pots in order. Russia goes in Group A.
    Now - do we (a) Draw a team at random from the pot then B assign it to the first available pot it can go to? or (b) determine what groups a team can go in then randomly draw that? or
    (c) randomly draw a spot then randomly draw teams that can go in that spot?

    I think it's A but it could be B? - A causes some interesting dependencies to determine the exact probabilities and figure out if the simulator is working correctly.

    Scenario: Iran is in Group C - we are drawing pot 4 teams. so group A has 4 teams, group B has 4 teams, everyone else has 3 teams.
    Next team drawn - Japan. Does Japan now go to Group D? or draw from the rest? or do they get replaced and keep randomly drawing until group C gets a team it can get?

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      #62
      Originally posted by rjafari View Post
      To figure out the exact probabilities - we'd need to be clear on a couple of the assignment rules - anyone remember how this has gone in the past/will go now?

      We know they'll assign the pots in order. Russia goes in Group A.
      Now - do we (a) Draw a team at random from the pot then B assign it to the first available pot it can go to? or (b) determine what groups a team can go in then randomly draw that? or
      (c) randomly draw a spot then randomly draw teams that can go in that spot?

      I think it's A but it could be B? - A causes some interesting dependencies to determine the exact probabilities and figure out if the simulator is working correctly.

      Scenario: Iran is in Group C - we are drawing pot 4 teams. so group A has 4 teams, group B has 4 teams, everyone else has 3 teams.
      Next team drawn - Japan. Does Japan now go to Group D? or draw from the rest? or do they get replaced and keep randomly drawing until group C gets a team it can get?
      In the example you drew up Japan would go to Group D.

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        #63
        Originally posted by perspolis#1 View Post
        In the example you drew up Japan would go to Group D.
        great, thanks. So they draw the team from the pot and slot them in the first available group ordered A->H.

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          #64
          Germany
          Colombia
          Iran
          Morocco

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            #65
            Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
            First attempt and I got this one:
            [ATTACH]17585[/ATTACH]
            lol.


            Plz turn off your TV and digital devices on the day of the draw.

            In fact we all will chip in to send you & ATA to a lovely holiday on a remote island somewhere near Madagascar.




            I got:
            Poland
            Colombia
            Iran
            Morocco

            mehhh!
            I see a whole lot of us have got Morocco as the 4th team. Given that 3 of the 4th seeds are asians, chances of this is very very high.
            CQ must definitely try to play egypt, tunisia, algeria, ... in the near future

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              #66
              Well - if we get Serbia as a pot 4 team, the highest likelihoods are Panama, Morocco, Nigeria, followed by Serbia (lower due to a few conditional scenarios where two European teams in Pots 1 and 2 are drawn together with us).
              If New Zealand squeaks in, then it's an equal chance 4 ways.

              I'd be ok with any except Nigeria.

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                #67
                one good thing about group of death for us, we will have better friendlies and preparation cause media will kill the iff if they dont.

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                  #68
                  Lol. I got:
                  ARGENTINA
                  SPAIN
                  IRAN
                  NIGERIA
                  That would be a fun but painful group.
                  I actually think we match up well against all of them. Teams that love possession and move slowly are TM's khorak.
                  Its the fast teams I worry about.

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                    #69
                    Poland
                    Uruguay
                    Iran
                    Morocco

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                      #70
                      I keep getting nigeria from pot 4.

                      that would be horrible
                      AKP Parti, Turkiye - Haj Bernie Sandersoglu

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                        #71
                        Belgium
                        England
                        Iran
                        Nigeria

                        Nigeria is the only team from pot 4 that I would like to avoid. Not only are they the best team in Africa right now, they also won't underestimate us anymore because of 2014. Serbia and Panama would be awesome.

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                          #72
                          No way serbia! they would be real tough. Of all 4 teams we can get from pot 4, morocco and panama are our best chance for 3 points.

                          Originally posted by Omid177 View Post
                          Belgium
                          England
                          Iran
                          Nigeria

                          Nigeria is the only team from pot 4 that I would like to avoid. Not only are they the best team in Africa right now, they also won't underestimate us anymore because of 2014. Serbia and Panama would be awesome.

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                            #73
                            Germany

                            Switzerland

                            Iran

                            Nigeria

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Soosk View Post
                              No way serbia! they would be real tough. Of all 4 teams we can get from pot 4, morocco and panama are our best chance for 3 points.
                              Serbia will underestimate us and go for attack. Also I watched their match against Austria and they aren't special.

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                                #75
                                From Pot 4, we want Panama or Morocco 100%

                                Serbia or Nigeria is the worst case scenario especially Serbia.
                                I personally think Iran vs Morocco would be very fun to watch

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