"International medias BIAS against TM" official thread

[diz]

England get a DREAM World Cup draw as they'll face the USA, Iran and either Scotland, Wales or Ukraine

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...ter_mailonline

[PSGman#19]

Just watch when Iran gets picked to group B, they are laughing and cheering as if they won
I am so glad these bozos havent won shit and hope it stays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqDC3QtOZL8

I had the reaction than them lol

[PSGman#19]

French medias level is below shit, with the exception of 2 or 3 journalists. All they do is to watch/"analyze" (bad and with a typical psg or exotic teams bias) mainstream games and s*** useless African and algerian football to please their fans and increase their audience.

Unable to predict Costa Rica will kick out England and Italy, unable to see senegal can beat France in 2002.etc.

Vaghean heyf that these incompetent, lazy arrogant guys and a non football mad country like France with their opportunitistic fans have a such powerful NT and two wc. Not deserved

[O-ZoNe]

NBC sports has created their own world ranking. Needless to say biases are rampant.

https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2022/04...2022-rankings/

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[maly3648]

No bro IR does deserve hate because their shortsighted policies have also put us in this situation, where everyone has ganged up on us. They know they can’t go back because it’s a death sentence with all the enemies they created. It’s a sad affair throughout our history one side is always working with the west to remove the other from power instead of creating a representative government, only the west benefits from this thirst for the throne. IR staying or Leaving benefits the west at the end the same way the west benefited either way with the shah leaving or staying, they’ll keep the infighting going for decades until we hold resolve the issue on our own.

We iranians living abroad are the main responsible for this situation. Bashing the government 24/7 only lead to bash Iran as a country as the vast majority of people won't distinguish between the government and people.

The iranians living abroad and bashing the government are the biggest responsible of this hatred and racism against iran. They are even ready to cooperate with Iran’s enemies just because of their hate towards the government. This is a shame and these people should have their iranian nationality ripped off for ever.

Look these Masih Alinejad for example, asking for FIFA to ban Iran from World cup! Look at these iranians asking Trump or Israel to bomb Iran and topple the "regime". I have no sympathy whatsoever for ideological ruling of our state but these enemies of our country, so called "iranians", are not better than MEK traitors and should be dealt as such.

Then, when there is Iran bashing, colonised as they are, they are still blaming their government instead of blaming racists and warmongers. They really think that they will be more "accepted" if they show how much they can kiss feet. Idiots ...

[Omids]

We iranians living abroad are the main responsible for this situation. Bashing the government 24/7 only lead to bash Iran as a country as the vast majority of people won't distinguish between the government and people.

The iranians living abroad and bashing the government are the biggest responsible of this hatred and racism against iran. They are even ready to cooperate with Iran’s enemies just because of their hate towards the government. This is a shame and these people should have their iranian nationality ripped off for ever.

Look these Masih Alinejad for example, asking for FIFA to ban Iran from World cup! Look at these iranians asking Trump or Israel to bomb Iran and topple the "regime". I have no sympathy whatsoever for ideological ruling of our state but these enemies of our country, so called "iranians", are not better than MEK traitors and should be dealt as such.

Then, when there is Iran bashing, colonised as they are, they are still blaming their government instead of blaming racists and warmongers. They really think that they will be more "accepted" if they show how much they can kiss feet. Idiots ...

Dont think IR needs any help in this area, they are responsible for the pariah status of Iran and the outlook of the global community.

[026121]

We iranians living abroad are the main responsible for this situation. Bashing the government 24/7 only lead to bash Iran as a country as the vast majority of people won't distinguish between the government and people.
The iranians living abroad and bashing the government are the biggest responsible of this hatred and racism against iran. They are even ready to cooperate with Iran’s enemies just because of their hate towards the government. This is a shame and these people should have their iranian nationality ripped off for ever.
Look these Masih Alinejad for example, asking for FIFA to ban Iran from World cup! Look at these iranians asking Trump or Israel to bomb Iran and topple the "regime". I have no sympathy whatsoever for ideological ruling of our state but these enemies of our country, so called "iranians", are not better than MEK traitors and should be dealt as such.
Then, when there is Iran bashing, colonised as they are, they are still blaming their government instead of blaming racists and warmongers. They really think that they will be more "accepted" if they show how much they can kiss feet. Idiots ...

I agree with you, although vatan forosh opportunist like MEK, masomeh and separatist are just the most vocal don’t represent the majority of Iranians in the west who still love Iran and haven’t sold their sharaf. Americans and Israelis with their maximum pressure have given these opportunist the front stage, want them to be seen as the main opposition to IR. It’s up to Iranians in the west to stop feeding into this anti Iranian propaganda that damages image of Iranians worldwide. The majority of people can’t distinguish between IR and normal Iranians, this is exactly what the anti Iranian front is trying to achieve. They started with anti-IR moved to anti-Iran and now lately Zionist think tanks have come up with the plan to attack Persians and Persian language linking them with IR in the hopes of encouraging separatism.

Iranians in the west needs to stop enabling this hatred against Iranians, work together to lobby for Iranian rights and demand respect like many other ethnic groups in the west are doing today. It’s one thing to hate IR but accepting prejudice and hatred towards Iranians has hurt many generations of Iranians in the west, in school, at work and their status in western society as a whole. Let’s continue to pretend there’s no problem, call ourselves Persians which now they’re starting to attack too and distance ourselves from other Iranians, call them names see what it will continue to achieve for future generations.

[perspolis#1]

The bad representation of Iran in the Western media is the fault of Iranians in the West? Now I have heard everything.

It is unequivocally IRs fault. All the moaning and groaning won't change that. Trying to link the majority of Iranians in the West to Masih Alinejad is a feeble feeble attempt at misdirection. Most Iranians in the west do not care and they are busy being probably the most contributing least leeching immigrant group on earth. IR really sells these MEK people as a scapegoat, the MEK are all old dinosaurs, about as dangerous as the survivors of Jonestown or Heavens Gate. P

Maybe the Western bias comes against Team Melli from the fact that a bunch of 8th century animals attacked women in Mashad last week or that it every couple of years that IFF is run by the government. Or that women in stadiums is " a discussion". Propaganda is gonna propaganda but blaming regular Iranians for the image of Iran on the world stage is lazy. Accountability is good. Whats sad is Iranians who are ok with our rapidly falling standards and just want us to act like everything is ok because of "pride".

Globally recognized ' dumb Americans' can differentiate between their people and government. Now suddenly the rest of the world and Iranians cant?

[maly3648]

You don't seem to understand "Western bias" properly. You can see these "bias" today against atheists Chinese or orthodox Russia. Are Chinese or Russians "Muslims" or are Russians and Chinese live according to "8th century"?

These biases are all about "power" and not at all values because if your argument was valid, Western world should have hundred times more bias against Wahhabi Saudis which make Iranian Conservative shia look like ultra liberals.

That's your problem actually, you are only focused on us and "centralise" the western biases, as if the western world is the center of the world or universe.
It is this colonised mentality which has to change.

These iranian living abroad make Iran look like the "most horrible place to live" because of "the regime" and then, they complain about racism and biases against Iran They try to "assimilate" like idiots, thinking that the more they sell themselves, the more accepted they will be.

These iranians are so colonised that the more you hit them, the more they will blame their own government

[Babak agha]

Lol the Iranians in the west. What type of BS is this? Last time I checked Iranians in the west are better of than most ethnic people here.. Barely notice racism and never complain about being treated as inferior. If anything we have a superiority complex.

I for one could care less what some Hill Billy thinks of Iran.

[nisfejahan]

Some people will never understand that the Iran-Bashing in the western media has very little to do with IR. It always starts the moment some Iranian government does not want to bow down kiss the master's feet.

- Reza Shah was treated the same way. His main sin: not to bow down and allow UK/USSR to bring Europe's war into our land, starving Iranians, stealing their food to feed their soldiers. He had to go because he thought Europeans should fight each other without involving the rest of the world.

- Shah, near the end of his reign when he tried to assert some independence was treated the same way. Almost overnight in the western media, he went from a modernizing leader to a blood-thirsty dictator.

- IR is being treated the same way because they are not playing along.

If it was about human rights, nobody can match the dismal record of US and UK. If it was about corruption, there are far worse corrupt countries. If it was about dictatorship, if it was about foreign interference, if it was about democracy, well....You get the gist.

Bashing Iranians, trying to portray the whole country as a bunch of backward animals, unworthy of any sympathy hurts everyone. This is what the "independent" US media does better than anyone else. From the movies (300, Argo, Not without.., Septembers in Shiraz....) to the news media, it is all designed to dehumanize Iranians and any other enemy de jour. Unfortunately, there is always a small Iranian group that is happy to dance to their tune for a few bucks, and even a larger group that has swallowed the bullshit media.

The sooner you realize this, the better it is.

[perspolis#1]

You don't seem to understand "Western bias" properly. You can see these "bias" today against atheists Chinese or orthodox Russia. Are Chinese or Russians "Muslims" or are Russians and Chinese live according to "8th century"?
These biases are all about "power" and not at all values because if your argument was valid, Western world should have hundred times more bias against Wahhabi Saudis which make Iranian Conservative shia look like ultra liberals.
That's your problem actually, you are only focused on us and "centralise" the western biases, as if the western world is the center of the world or universe.
It is this colonised mentality which has to change.
These iranian living abroad make Iran look like the "most horrible place to live" because of "the regime" and then, they complain about racism and biases against Iran They try to "assimilate" like idiots, thinking that the more they sell themselves, the more accepted they will be.
These iranians are so colonised that the more you hit them, the more they will blame their own government

Oh I believe they absolute are in the 8th century mentally , similar to Genghis Khan or the Taliban. The inability to live side to side with someone of different beliefs than you, TRYING TO FORCE your views on someone(in this case by attacking them), is in my mind, barbaric and of the unevolved brain. It's actually insulting that you imply things like accountability and open discussion about issues is a Western concept. You know we did have the world's greatest thinkers when the West lived in caves. Maybe have some more confidence in the average Iranian.

You do a lot of talking about your fellow Iranian that you have never met, happily willing to blame Iranians who talk about mismanagement instead of pointing fingers to the real problem in the country. No one buys the 'victim complex'. Wahhabi Saudis have barbaric values but even they have done something as simple as allowing their women into stadiums. The majority of Iranians are more liberal than a conservative shia cleric so please tell me what continues to be the problem. Letting women into a stadium is not a sign of assimilation into Western values by the way, as there is evidence of this happening in Iran over half a century ago.

Trying to reframe the conversation to take some heat off of IR was a strange thing to do in a thread about the ignorance of sports outlets regarding Team Melli. Both coaches have said they don't care about the politics and everyone on here is very aware of the US/UK toxic policies being older than IR. So if their negative media is the reason we won't talk about anything bad in Iran, how is progress ever made?
Do you believe women should be allowed in Iranian stadiums?

[maly3648]

Oh I believe they absolute are in the 8th century mentally , similar to Genghis Khan or the Taliban. The inability to live side to side with someone of different beliefs than you, TRYING TO FORCE your views on someone(in this case by attacking them), is in my mind, barbaric and of the unevolved brain. It's actually insulting that you imply things like accountability and open discussion about issues is a Western concept. You know we did have the world's greatest thinkers when the West lived in caves. Maybe have some more confidence in the average Iranian.

You do a lot of talking about your fellow Iranian that you have never met, happily willing to blame Iranians who talk about mismanagement instead of pointing fingers to the real problem in the country. No one buys the 'victim complex'. Wahhabi Saudis have barbaric values but even they have done something as simple as allowing their women into stadiums. The majority of Iranians are more liberal than a conservative shia cleric so please tell me what continues to be the problem. Letting women into a stadium is not a sign of assimilation into Western values by the way, as there is evidence of this happening in Iran over half a century ago.

Trying to reframe the conversation to take some heat off of IR was a strange thing to do in a thread about the ignorance of sports outlets regarding Team Melli. Both coaches have said they don't care about the politics and everyone on here is very aware of the US/UK toxic policies being older than IR. So if their negative media is the reason we won't talk about anything bad in Iran, how is progress ever made?
Do you believe women should be allowed in Iranian stadiums?

I do believe women should be allowed in stadiums and some of the ideology ruling our country is totally counterproductive and not in line with Persian culture.

That being said, you are focusing on a very minor problem if analysed globally. These countries thinking they're the center of the world and imposing sanctions against anyone and everything not in line with their policies IS the main problem in our world today. It killed many iranians and you seem to be totally silent about these much more serious problems.

One doesn't excuse the other but i am fed up with these iranians talking 24/7 about what's wrong in Iran without analysing what's wrong AGAINST Iran. They are like the idiot staring at a finger pointing to the moon.

[perspolis#1]

I do believe women should be allowed in stadiums and some of the ideology ruling our country is totally counterproductive and not in line with Persian culture.
That being said, you are focusing on a very minor problem if analysed globally. These countries thinking they're the center of the world and imposing sanctions against anyone and everything not in line with their policies IS the main problem in our world today. It killed many iranians and you seem to be totally silent about these much more serious problems.
One doesn't excuse the other but i am fed up with these iranians talking 24/7 about what's wrong in Iran without analysing what's wrong AGAINST Iran. They are like the idiot staring at a finger pointing to the moon.

Again, you seem to categorize people into two camps when there can be multiple viewpoints on a topic in varying shades. Not everyone divides into Basiji or MEK. There is a massive media attack on all things Iranian and in my opinion, Iranians need to take up every battle because we have been so disenfranchised(By IR, by US government, by the world etc) at the same time. We can fight for the rights of women in stadiums in Iran and also for Iranian representation in the global or western organizations at the same time. We can talk more about these political issues in the General Discussion Forum, but I will say here that if we want to resurrect shades of 1998 and beat/get a result off the likely 3 Western nations in our group including the arrogant English and the ignorant Americans we need preparation and strong mental game. They'll try to cause discord in our team prior to the World cup, probably repost some stories of "men on the women's team", blunders etc. They are ruthless.

I would love to at least symbolically shut them down for things they have done in the last few years and we should press IFF(run by Sports Ministry) for the best preparation. Team Melli unites everyone in the country. The onslaught of media will continue during this world cup cycle and the only thing we can do is be the team that dents the English chances of "it coming home" or beating the US to the R16. I want our people to be happy more than anything and football is one of the things that does just that. I also want to wipe the smug smirk off Alexi Lalas's face.

[taremiscores]

They are like the idiot staring at a finger pointing to the moon.

Did you also see Khomeini's face on the moon?