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    Lol wtf did I just read? I'm just waiting for KC's impending post ......

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      Bro, you may have the love but you need some more respect and knowledge for Iran and TM.

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        Originally posted by Taz View Post
        Bro, you may have the love but you need some more respect and knowledge for Iran and TM.
        Im just saving my heart..because iran is not better than what they are.. respect and love is one thing..but being realistic is key

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          Realism is saying we are the underdogs and least favoured side in our group. Coming out with statements like we are the weakest team in the WC and we can't play a system is just downright ignorant and idiotic.

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            Originally posted by igotloveforiran View Post
            Please, I know how unrealistic optimistic iranians can be.. just an advice.. dont expect to much..
            Iran will not win a single game..0 pts
            and we will lose 5-0 4-0 and dont even THINK to underestimate marrocco.. marrocco will beat us 3-0!
            Im more realistic and save my heart than thinking the iranian way which goes like this:
            "we beat marrocco..we draw spain and we can win portugal" Sorry iranians.. we wont even be CLOSE to win marrocko even..
            Save your hearts already today.. its will be fun to see iran at WC though.. not many has the luck to experience that..but we will end up 0 pts as we clearly are the worst team in WC. Maybe im not iranian to you because im realistic..but that is the truth..iranian football will always be "ki-be-kie" football.. they will stress..they will hit under the ball 90% of the games... they will complain for a single referee faul.. but as a system iran cannot play football, they have never been able to do so ..
            with that said.. go iran!! im just glad we made it to the WC

            Oh yeah.. screw fifa ranking..again some iranian thinking "we are number 1 in asia bla bla lba" baba saket... please.. saket...
            It's about the journey, not the result.

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              HA!! Morocco is definitely beatable.
              As far as portugal goes they not as talented as previous portugal teams. They have ronaldo and thats it, the rest of the team is mediocre.
              We definitely have a chance.

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                Originally posted by Hoorad View Post
                It's about the journey, not the result.
                I agree.. but as I said.. be aware about the hearts.. its to sad to be heartbroken because of unrealstic expectations.. iran cant play football.. simple as that.. just enjoy TM win or lose

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                  Originally posted by igotloveforiran View Post
                  I agree.. but as I said.. be aware about the hearts.. its to sad to be heartbroken because of unrealstic expectations.. iran cant play football.. simple as that.. just enjoy TM win or lose
                  They said the same thing about Leicester at the start of the 2015/2016 season.

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                    I want to close this thread but I am LOLing

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                        Originally posted by Surenas View Post
                        Yea, I didn't had the time for the other teams, but my initial goal, that we really focus on the other teams, making analysis of their formation etc.
                        But yea:
                        Now I have more time. All together

                        Our first task will be Morocco.

                        Morocco switches usually between offence and defence. Their main focus is defending.
                        Morocco starts with 4-5-1 formation.
                        If they attack or make pressure they switch into a 4-3-3 with two DM/CM and one OM.
                        Renard's idea in his system is having an advantage in the central position of the field playing, if you control this area, Morocco tries to attack through their wingers not from a central position!
                        That's the important part about their tactics. Ziyech and Amrabat are pretty fast and are very technical. Same goes for Belhanda, had the opportunity to watch is games when he played for Schalke, he is a great player, but inconstant. If you make pressure, if Ashkan ya Karimi have an eye on him we can take the wingers out. Belhanda is crucial, Ziyech and Amrabat get their passing usually from Belhanda. If Renard realizes Belhanda can't reach them, usually he send's Boussoufa to assist him. That means we have room and we can neutralize their midfield and destabilize Renard's system. Ziyech and Amrabat need to assist them too and Morocco will switch again to a 4-5-1 formation. The good part about them is, both Ziyech and Amrabat are attacking players, assisting the LB and RB will cost them much power and speed and they have deficits in defending.

                        Morocco's strengh:

                        + Having fast wingers
                        + Having a great OM player like Belhanda
                        + Solid defence a great CB with Benatia
                        + They know how to defend and they are quite defensive usually

                        Morocco's weakness

                        - Switching permanently the formation cost's much power
                        - Benatia is slow, he will have trouble with Azmoun or Saman, he had these issues in the Bundesliga
                        - Ziyech and Amrabat are too offensive
                        - The GK of Morocco is shaky

                        What's Iran's goal for the game?

                        Take out Morocco's midfield, try to neutralize the CM, Morocco needs to run for their system, we need to focus on the Wingers, if they're getting tired this can be our opportunity.
                        Don't park the bus permanently, if Morocco get's the opportunity to attack, we will get into trouble, both Ziyech and Amrabat are fucking dangerous, don't let them play their game.
                        If Morocco have to run permanently into counterattacks they will have big troubles.
                        Iran should not try it with crosses, Benatia is pretty good in the air, but shaky if you use your speed against him, Sardar time to shine!

                        FORMATION
                        Code:
                        --------------------Beiro---------------------
                        Ramin----Jalal-----------PAG---------Milad-
                        ----------Ashkan------Karimi----------------
                        -----------------Saman----------------------
                        -ARJ-------------------------------Taremi----
                        -------------------Sardar---------------------

                        I would suggest we also play the 4-5-1 formation when we defend with two main "teams", that means our defence + Karimi, Ashkan are "one team" which try to make pressure in the CM-position Saman, ARJ, Taremi try to use the free space and pass to Sardar or try it with range shots, they build our "attacking team".








                        Next task is Spain:

                        By far the hardest one!
                        Guys, I think we don't have to talk about how f*cking good Spain is, how god damn superior Spain is.
                        BUT!
                        Is Spain unbeatable? Unfortunately yes
                        No ok, let's keep it serious.

                        What happend to Spain in the last 1 1/2 years?
                        They changed their system, they changed many players, but they kept their doctrine of having the superiority over the midfield.
                        What does that actually mean?
                        I choosed two games against a team, which plays similar to us in our defensive doctrine, two matches, where they managed once to beat Spain and one game where they where humiliated.
                        I'm talking about Italy.
                        In the UEFA EURO 2016 Spain started in with a 4-3-3 formation, quite offensive, but in reality it's more like an 4-6-0 formation
                        That means Spain is just focusing on the midfield, using their LB and RB to assist their wingers, they almost have everytime superiority, fast one touch football, super dangerous.


                        [ATTACH]17638[/ATTACH]

                        Spain's line-up
                        In reality Spain played like this:




                        Which means 15, 18 and 22 are playing together and try to attack from the wings, same goes for 3, 5 and 16.
                        They attack together and secure the midfield with superiority of four to five players in the CM and OM and in the end they try to score via crosses to Morata.
                        Italy quickly realized this issue and played itself with 5 players in the midfield and neutralized the Spanish midfield, so the wingers are still super dangerous, but if they make a mistake there is not a superiority left in the midfield, because it's neutralized. Which means Spain's defence is too offensive, if they make a mistake, they're prone to counterattacks. Italy's final goal resulted like this. Italy won the game 2-0, they defended with 9! players and attacked with 6 players if they counterattacked.

                        Now one year later, Spain changed the system and they found a way how to handle Italy.
                        But what happend exactly?
                        Spain changed firstly many players, like now they play with Isco, Asensio, Koke etc. that means more stability and more defensive, so there is even on the paper not a single striker!


                        [ATTACH]17631[/ATTACH]

                        In reality Spain played like this:

                        [ATTACH]17632[/ATTACH]



                        Spain plays now more defensive and more compact, but still their main goal is attack through their wingers. In 2016 Spain's superiority goal was more in the CM and OM, now it's between DM and CM. They realized, if you want to defeat a defensive team, you better secure your also your defence and you try to play fast.
                        Italy managed wonderfully in 2016 to strech to game.
                        Spain had to walk more, because of Italy's pressing game, if you don't leave space for Spain, they are forced to play a game, which they don't like, so they have to walk, because passing doesn't help them to come closer to the goal.
                        Spain reacted and Italy reacted to in 2017, but with the false system. Italy switched to a more offensive system, they secured their defence now with just 6 players not 9 like in 2016, they started to attack with Insigne and Candreva and just tried to advance from the right side and tried it with crosses.

                        What's Italy's mistake?
                        Italy ignored the superiority of Spain's midfield, they thought let's try it from the winger position, way to predictable! If Alba or Carvajal get the ball from Insigne or Candreva they easily pass with the players in the midfield and Spain starts their attack, Italy has to run, Candreva and Insigne are missing in the defence and Spain comes like a steamroller.
                        40% of Italy's counterattacks started in 2016 in the central midfield, in 2017 just 29%, they ignored the fact how good Spain is, when you leave them place to attack via the midfield.

                        The conclusion is:

                        When you leave Spain the superiority in the midfield, you are done! 100% done! Spain wins, no doubts about it.
                        If you attack, if you start to pressure if you have a stunning pressing game, you can get Spain! They're not unbeatable, but almost, if you consinder their high-class players.

                        Iran's lineup against Spain?

                        --------------------Beiro---------------------
                        ----Jalal-----------PAG---------Hosseini-----
                        Ramin---------------------------Milad-------
                        ----------Ezzatollahi------Karimi------------
                        -ARJ-------------------------------Amiri-----
                        -------------------Sardar---------------------

                        5-4-1 formation, counterattack an 3-4-3 formation, defensive formation 5-5-0






                        Last task Portugal:

                        Is there a significant change in the tactics from 2016 UEFA Euro to the 2017 Confed Cup?

                        Our focus is on Portugal vs Iceland.

                        Portugal's formation was left side and right side the actual one:

                        [ATTACH]17634[/ATTACH]

                        Portugal also plays very offensive against us, but unlike Spain they don't focus so much on passing and superiority in the CM, they like to dribble, to run and creating space for their CM/OM to advance to the box.
                        We all know we have to keep 11 eyes on Ronaldo, but you can't take him out 100%. We need to keep our formation close, we need to play with a high pressing game and defend solid. We don't need that much a midfield focus like in the Spain game, but we need to defend as much as against Spain.
                        Portugal's weakness is if you attack from with fast wingers and try it with crosses. Almost every attack of Iceland came from the wingers, their CB's are a bit slow and Portugal's game makes them tired.
                        If we won our first game, then Portugal will attack 100%, because a draw could be enough for us, otherwise it could be possible that Portugal let us attack, so they can counterattack, but this is very unlikely, if they lose for ex. their first game against Spain and we won over Morocco.

                        Good for us, there is no major change in Portugal's tactic, which means King Queiroz knows his shit

                        My formation against Portugal would be:

                        --------------------Beiro---------------------
                        ----Jalal-----------PAG---------Hosseini-----
                        Ramin---------------------------Milad-------
                        ------------Ezzatollahi-------------------------
                        -------------------Saman---------------------
                        -ARJ-------------------------------Taremi----
                        ------------Sardar/Karim-------------

                        It depends, both would be good for crosses.
                        This is still one of the best posts I've seen in all of PFDC.. Take a bow bro... Top class analyzing.

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                          beating Moroco will be harder than getting a draw versus Spain or Portugal

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                            Originally posted by igotloveforiran View Post
                            Please, I know how unrealistic optimistic iranians can be.. just an advice.. dont expect to much..
                            Iran will not win a single game..0 pts
                            and we will lose 5-0 4-0 and dont even THINK to underestimate marrocco.. marrocco will beat us 3-0!
                            Im more realistic and save my heart than thinking the iranian way which goes like this:
                            "we beat marrocco..we draw spain and we can win portugal" Sorry iranians.. we wont even be CLOSE to win marrocko even..
                            Save your hearts already today.. its will be fun to see iran at WC though.. not many has the luck to experience that..but we will end up 0 pts as we clearly are the worst team in WC. Maybe im not iranian to you because im realistic..but that is the truth..iranian football will always be "ki-be-kie" football.. they will stress..they will hit under the ball 90% of the games... they will complain for a single referee faul.. but as a system iran cannot play football, they have never been able to do so ..
                            with that said.. go iran!! im just glad we made it to the WC

                            Oh yeah.. screw fifa ranking..again some iranian thinking "we are number 1 in asia bla bla lba" baba saket... please.. saket...
                            No you're not being realistic, you're being a troll. Iran's current team has only improved after nearly tieing world cup finalists Argentina in 2014. So you're prediction of losing 4-0/5-0 is not realistic but just meant to piss people off.

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                              Originally posted by Hadi View Post
                              beating Moroco will be harder than getting a draw versus Spain or Portugal

                              I agree.
                              Reason is Morocco finds itself exactly in the same position as we do, i.e. a must win / a must not lose game. So they will give all they got against us, like we do against them. It will be an extra hard game.
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                                our approach should be simple, our first game should be like our last, we need a result, min a draw, a win would be even better, but lose and we have a super hard time. We must get a result first game , we must

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