Are we going to protest the illegal name of A*****Gulf Cup?!!!

[oracle]

I understand the outrage regarding this topic. I will always refer to our waters as Persian Gulf and the historic name will always be Persian Gulf but I don‘t really mind our arab neighbors calling it Arab Gulf since they also live by those shores.

What name does united nation refer to persian gulf?

[diz]

What name does united nation refer to persian gulf?

The UN refers to it as "Persian Gulf"

https://www.un.org/depts/los/LEGISLA...rsian_gulf.htm

[Hosseini]

The best thing we could do, if we had a sane and normal government, would be to create our own Persian Gulf Cup and invite teams from around the world. Doesn't need to be limited to that area. Market it differently than CAFA and make it more expansive.

Host the games in three or four good stadiums we have.

Invite teams we have decent political/social relationships with, like:

Tajikistan
Turkmenistan
Japan
Korea
Bolivia
Oman
China
Qatar
Venezuela
Malaysia
Vietnam
Bosnia
Croatia
Senegal
Ghana
Morocco
Algeria

Worst case scenario, 8 of these teams accept. Two groups of 4 is plenty.

[Rooyintan]

Mistakes of the past should not be repeated! Persian Identity, Iranian nationalism, national pride, national interests and Iran's territorial integrity should be the highest priority.

Under Qajar and Pahlavi, Iran was walked over by foreigners. Qajar lost Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Herat. When Russian Empire fell they failed to rejoin Azerbaijan and Nakhchevan to motherland Iran, their politicians even recognized the new country Republic of Azerbaijan in 1918!
Pahlavi got tricked and easily lost Bahrain, their politicians did jack to stop the newly founded Football tournament called "Gulf Cup" that was founded in 1970!

IRI has proved that they have no interest in Iranian nationalism, for them their priorities are Palestine, Shia Islam, their own interests. IRI does jack to stand up for Iran's national interests, now the tournament Gulf Cup during Pahlavi era is called "A**bian Gulf Cup" organized by "A**bian Gulf Football Federation". Arab countries such as Iraq even have consulates, religious centers and businesses in several Iranian cities.

Iranians must persistently put pressure on IRI to immediately permanently close all Arab consulates, Arab businesses and religious centers. Also downgrade the Arab embassies in Tehran to consulate and reduce diplomatic ties with Arab countries. Palestine's diplomatic mission to be immediately closed.

IRI should ask Iraq and their Arab allies (Egypt, Jordan, Palestine, UAE, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc) for compensation for Iran-Iraq War atrocities and war crimes. Then hopefully use the money to either build new stadiums or spend it on disadvantaged and homeless people in Iran.

Long live Iran. Persian Gulf Forever.

[oracle]

The UN refers to it as "Persian Gulf"

https://www.un.org/depts/los/LEGISLA...rsian_gulf.htm

Yek zarbolmasal gadimi migeh
DAR DARVAZEH RO MITONI BEBANDI
VALI DAHAN MARDOOM O NEMTONI.
that being said. Then
There is nothing can be done to have Arab people
Say the correct name..
Correct me if I am wrong but
I think u.n can pass resolution and sanction
countries which hold event under fake names,,
solution imo is as long us u.n refers to it as pg,
and iran is not losing any territory over this
THEN BEZARIM ENGADAR BEGAN TA
MALAKH AZ K....NESHOON BIYAD BIROON.
but it would be nice if persian outside of iran
Durring the zan azadi protest, also protest against Arabs calling pg a fake name.
Ba yek tir do neshoon

CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG ARABS BEEN CALLING IT FAKE NAME SINCE AFTER WW2
I remember a shah interview telling Wallace I believe it was , when ask about the pg name
shah told him WHAT DID U LEARN IN SCHOOL?
LOL
i feel alot better now knowing u.n officially recognize it as pg.

[koorosh]

Mistakes of the past should not be repeated! Persian Identity, Iranian nationalism, national pride, national interests and Iran's territorial integrity should be the highest priority.

Under Qajar and Pahlavi, Iran was walked over by foreigners. Qajar lost Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Herat. When Russian Empire fell they failed to rejoin Azerbaijan and Nakhchevan to motherland Iran, their politicians even recognized the new country Republic of Azerbaijan in 1918!
Pahlavi got tricked and easily lost Bahrain, their politicians did jack to stop the newly founded Football tournament called "Gulf Cup" that was founded in 1970!

IRI has proved that they have no interest in Iranian nationalism, for them their priorities are Palestine, Shia Islam, their own interests. IRI does jack to stand up for Iran's national interests, now the tournament Gulf Cup during Pahlavi era is called "A**bian Gulf Cup" organized by "A**bian Gulf Football Federation". Arab countries such as Iraq even have consulates, religious centers and businesses in several Iranian cities.

Iranians must persistently put pressure on IRI to immediately permanently close all Arab consulates, Arab businesses and religious centers. Also downgrade the Arab embassies in Tehran to consulate and reduce diplomatic ties with Arab countries. Palestine's diplomatic mission to be immediately closed.

IRI should ask Iraq and their Arab allies (Egypt, Jordan, Palestine, UAE, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc) for compensation for Iran-Iraq War atrocities and war crimes. Then hopefully use the money to either build new stadiums or spend it on disadvantaged and homeless people in Iran.

Long live Iran. Persian Gulf Forever.

Sorry Iran's territorial integrity was maintained during Pahlavi dynasties. Bahrain was lost because of the weakness of Iran from the Qajar days but Bushehr/khuzestan was maintained and Tonbs and Abi Musa islands were occupied to emphasize their territoriality.

Note Persian identity is not the sole identity of Iran. Iranians can be Turks, Arabs, Armenians, Jews, etc.



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[DR Strangemoosh]

You can hate me for this, but right now as an Iranian I have much bigger concerns for my country, than a name. Not that I don't care about it, but these Arabs will never change, as they know how to push our buttons.

Exactly

Persian Gulf will always be the Persian Gulf and nothing will change that.

But all I can think about is Mohammad Ghobadloo and Mohammad Boroughani right now and I don't have the mental bandwidths outside the hangings of my innocent brothers and the torture of my sisters happening

Genuinely don't want to fall asleep as am worries they will be gone in the morning like what happened on Saturday. I keep getting palpitations

Anything else isn't even a distraction right now

[Rooyintan]

Note Persian identity is not the sole identity of Iran. Iranians can be Turks, Arabs, Armenians, Jews, etc.

Yes, all non-Persians ethnic groups in Iran are also Iranian and if they are not Separatist are loyal to Iran. However, separatists and foreign enemies want to completely wipe out "Persian Identity" and destroy "Iranian Unity". Use of the disgraceful term "Pofiyuz" for Team Melli or insults directed at other Iranian Men's national teams and wrestlers and brainwashing people to not support Team Melli was attack on Iranian Unity and also degrading "Iranian males". Use of name apart from Persian Gulf is attack on "Persian Identity", naive Iranians specially silence of those who nominated themselves as leaders or voices of Iranian people equates to agreeing for "Persian Identity" to be completely wiped out from this planet. All Iranians must fiercely defend the name "Persian Gulf" and "territorial integrity of Iran", those who don't see it as top priority then don't get surprised when in the future what will remain of your Iran will be "Republic of Kavir and Lut Desert" having big Tehran as capital and only Caspian Sea coast and if lucky a bit of "formerly known as Persian Gulf" coastline.

Long live Iran. Persian Gulf Forever.

[Rooyintan]

Shameless Iraq Stamps

https://www.hamshahrionline.ir/news/...A7%D8%B4%DB%8C

[Rooyintan]

Hezar Afarin bar Shoja

https://www.khabarvarzeshi.com/news/...B1%D8%A8%DB%8C

[Rooyintan]

نقشه های عربی خلیج فارس

http://www.persiangulfstudies.com/fa/pages/750

[DR Strangemoosh]

All Iranians must fiercely defend the name "Persian Gulf" and "territorial integrity of Iran", those who don't see it as top priority

Name of Persian Gulf is important but it isn't top priority for me at the moment.

Really simple A vs B question - which is more important for you and causes you to lose sleep, this issue or the life of Mohammad Ghobadlou, life of Mohammad Boroghani and others?

[oracle]

Hezar Afarin bar Shoja

https://www.khabarvarzeshi.com/news/...B1%D8%A8%DB%8C

Dameh shoja garm
he actually deserves evallah
For REPRESENTING PERSIAN GULF
WHILE LIVING AND WORKING in a country which refers to its fake name.

Please continue education us regarding this matter and other things .I have learned alot of new things reading your posts, your level of knowledge it's amazing. I am getting to an age a which finally I am interested to know persian history and other items like pg conterversy....Thank you

[oracle]

When Arab nationalism suffered defeat in the 6 day war against Isreal in 1967, Jamal Abdul Nasser the president of Egypt at the time and the father of Pan-Arabism switched its focus on Iran and called Iran the biggest enemy of Arabs and Islam. He started various policies and plots against our nation including using the name Arabian Gulf and calling for independence of Khuzestan among others.

Unfortunforty we have been silent against these Arab aggressions for centuries. During the Shah's regime a policy of peace and friendship with arab states prevented a strong and decisive answer to be given to those plotting against our nation, although the show of military silenced Saddam Hossain a follower of Naser Pan Arabism at least for a while. The Mullah regime on the surface objects to such acts by Arabs but their standing in the community of nations is so low, nobody takes anything they say seriously. And we all know deep down this brutal and terrorist regime does not care about Iran and Irani. They have been auctioning off our nation in any way they can.

That being said, seeing FIFA who is the advocate of separating politics from sports getting in the middle of this Arab game is surprising and a clear sign of disrespecting and violating the sovergnity of our nation.

There is only one explanation for this money hungry Infantino and that is he is trying to please his masters to ensure the pot of gold he found in oil rich arab land continues to fund FiFA.

Should we sit quiet? Absloulty not! We have to use the power of media to educate the world about what is happening. We have to protest against FIFA. I request our PDFC editors to write an article (in a respectful language) and post it on front page to unfold FiFA's attempt.

Please post more things, regarding iran history
I like your takes as well, its different view.

thanks

[Kavian]

Mistakes of the past should not be repeated! Persian Identity, Iranian nationalism, national pride, national interests and Iran's territorial integrity should be the highest priority.

Under Qajar and Pahlavi, Iran was walked over by foreigners. Qajar lost Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Herat. When Russian Empire fell they failed to rejoin Azerbaijan and Nakhchevan to motherland Iran, their politicians even recognized the new country Republic of Azerbaijan in 1918!
Pahlavi got tricked and easily lost Bahrain, their politicians did jack to stop the newly founded Football tournament called "Gulf Cup" that was founded in 1970!

IRI has proved that they have no interest in Iranian nationalism, for them their priorities are Palestine, Shia Islam, their own interests. IRI does jack to stand up for Iran's national interests, now the tournament Gulf Cup during Pahlavi era is called "A**bian Gulf Cup" organized by "A**bian Gulf Football Federation". Arab countries such as Iraq even have consulates, religious centers and businesses in several Iranian cities.

Iranians must persistently put pressure on IRI to immediately permanently close all Arab consulates, Arab businesses and religious centers. Also downgrade the Arab embassies in Tehran to consulate and reduce diplomatic ties with Arab countries. Palestine's diplomatic mission to be immediately closed.

IRI should ask Iraq and their Arab allies (Egypt, Jordan, Palestine, UAE, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc) for compensation for Iran-Iraq War atrocities and war crimes. Then hopefully use the money to either build new stadiums or spend it on disadvantaged and homeless people in Iran.

Long live Iran. Persian Gulf Forever.

I agree with what you said!

Unfortunately our history since arab conquest is one sad story after another of rulers who auctioned our identity, culture, territory and sense of pride. Pahlavi dynasty was as close as we got to a nationalistic stage in recent history but even that was full of unreversable mistakes becuase of lack of knowledge to understand the consequences of actions/inactions by people in charge. To me two of the biggest mistakes were to a) wipe out Persia as a historic name for Iran and b) to give away Bahrain.