Can we ever produce a "Salah" level talent ?!

[026121]

I don't know if the youth thing is that important. Sure it plays a role but Croatian or even salah become what he is because good european clubs bought them, develop them and take them at the next level.

Croatians are good coaches, they’ve had a large influence on our football too, before they could move to bigger clubs in Europe they needed talent producing clubs like Dinamo Zagreb. Look at the Iranian players that have gotten chances in Europe top leagues none of them became stars, our players are naturally talented, but since we don’t have good youth coaches they don’t learn the fundamentals of football, how to avoid bad advice dalals leading to wasted talents. Playing on pavement and dirt fields with coaches who don’t know how to develop youth players will never make us a top class football team.

US, China, Qatar are all focusing on youth football to develop their football. Our problem is lack of trust and opportunity for young people that’s not just in football in every aspect of society. Taremi and Azmoun are great players, but unfortunately with our youth situation think we’re going to have a hard time finding players like them again for a long time.

[PSGman#19]

Croatians are good coaches, they’ve had a large influence on our football too, before they could move to bigger clubs in Europe they needed talent producing clubs like Dinamo Zagreb. Look at the Iranian players that have gotten chances in Europe top leagues none of them became stars, our players are naturally talented, but since we don’t have good youth coaches they don’t learn the fundamentals of football, how to avoid bad advice dalals leading to wasted talents. Playing on pavement and dirt fields with coaches who don’t know how to develop youth players will never make us a top class football team.
US, China, Qatar are all focusing on youth football to develop their football. Our problem is lack of trust and opportunity for young people that’s not just in football in every aspect of society. Taremi and Azmoun are great players, but unfortunately with our youth situation think we’re going to have a hard time finding players like them again for a long time.

Qatar or Iran can have the best youth academies of the world, it won't change anything if the players stay in the local leagues or go to some obscur 2nd rate european leagues after.
Iran's biggest problem is Esteghlal/ghaedi sent in UAE, Taremi and azmoun spending 10 years in middle east/russia because lack of serious offer or lack of ambition.

Lot of world class young players don't become world class players and vice versa

[Ardalan]

100 % ke dashtane akademihaaye khoob va morrabbihaaye dorost o hesaabi baraye javaanaan moheme.

Baraye TM bozorgsaalan moheme. Ashkaare ke agar har bashgaaye lige bartar yek akademie herfeyi daashte baashe

bishtar bazikone por-keifiyat parvaresh daadeh mishe.

Masalan dar Brazil Flamengo, Sao Paolo, Gremio va... hameye bashgaahaa yek akademi darand, khob ma'loome ke
baraye TM khoobe ke in hame bazikone javoon betonan dar yek mohite kamelan herfeyi ba morrabbihaaye herfeyi kaar konand.

Hala javonhaaye maa ba Mash Rajab sare kooche bayad gol kochik baazi konand be omidi ke betonan beran PP ya Esteghlaal.

[Ardalan]

Ba'd yek masaleyi ke bazikonhaamon darand ine ke chon az javooni dar yek mohite footbaalie herfeyi rosht nakardand

vaghti miran Europa 1-2 saal tool mikeshe taa befahmand chejoori bayad dar yek team baazi konand.

Masalan Gholizadeh, ke alan khoob dar Europa jay oftade, saale avval mikhast gol-kochik baazi kone

ke Felice Mazzù besyaar zood dar resaanehaa goft ke Ali bayad befahme masoliyat chi e.

In chaalesh-haa ba yek zirbanaye footbalie dorost o hesaabi kheili asontaar mishan.

Amma khoob , felan gire Emam Hossein o Allah o Hezbollah hastim.

[Leicester City]

According to Acun Ilıcalı, Allahyar Sayyadmanesh is the next Mohamed Salah. So, I would say Allahyar Sayyadmanesh.

[AGC]

Many good things have been Said but i Will add some key points.

- we need to incentivize youth development in our sports organizations

- that means we need private initiative

- but we aöso need a strong public sector backing not just in the form of key infrastructure but also in government expendotire on a vibrant grass root association movement where our youth go to well run clubs om amateur level before going pro. Like a minimum standard floor of excellence. This means educating and trainong all current youth trainers and coaches and expand the total number of clubs.

Sometimes markets are strong and sometimes they imherently fail. We must privatize and socialize at the same time renegotiating the public private mix.

[IRAN_TILL_I_DIE]

Talent-wise of course we can
But developing that talent is where we may struggle.

Ali Karimi had more talent than Salah. But he spent most of his career in the Middle East and didn’t develop.
Imagine if he moved to Spain when he had the chance when he was 20?

[khabalood]

We already had one, and his name was Ali Karimi. He could have gone to Atletico at a young age and developed but instead he wasted his potential with the Arabs.

So the answer is yes. Anything the Arabs do, we can do better.

[Babak agha]

First we have to understand the fact that there's no such thing as 'We are more talented than', or 'We are more technical than'... What does that even mean? Because somebody has a Persian (sounding) name, all of the sudden he has special genes developed for football other people in Asia or Africa don't have?

It's one thing you could say is, because of our nutrition/eating habits we have an advantage of being physically fit. However I'd think we all agree that we don't have a noticeably better eating pattern than other countries in the area.

Then you could say we have a sporting culture, where kids are encouraged and stimulated to take up a sport at early age. But also that isn't the case in Iran. Parents rather have you read a book (scientific or qoran).

Only thing we have on our side against surrounding countries is population. The bigger your population, the higher the chance that the people that have the perfect physical and mental attributes are born within your country. This is probably the only reason why we are noticeably better than most Arab countries and not we are compared to Japan, Korea and KSA.

Japan and Korea somewhat trying to structurally get people into sports from a young age helps them (and their parents) to be more invested, meaning in the long term they have more talented players compared to the rest of Asia.

Also think about this, eventhough we think our nation absolutely loves football, our love for the game is nowhere near anything you can find in Europe. Look at it this way, Holland has 20% of Iran's population, yet they have much bigger football websites/forums than we do. This has nothing to do with infrastructure or money, but rather the interest of a population in follwing the latest news..

[DR Strangemoosh]

Japan is so far ahead talent wise at the moment (Sardar and Taremi aside), particularly in midfield, it is frightening.

They have players who aren't near their starting line up who are of a very high calibre. Midfielders/attacking midfielders who are not just gifted but have put the work in and become key for their clubs, whether Kamada at Frankfurt.... Haraguchi, Shibasaki, Maeda, Doan, Ito, Endo, Kubo etc.. they've got an embarrassment of quality and it is sad that Iran's setup has gone the other way for the last two decades.

Liverpool fans love Minamino because he's been absolutely clutch despite such little time on the pitch - 10 goals.

The thing is that their transfer decisions are good as well - Kyogo was one of three japanese players who went to Celtic and has been the best player in Scotland in his debut season (20 good goals) and brimming in confidence for national team.

I also find Japanese players age very well too. Hasebe even four years after retiring from international football is a lynchpin for Frankfurt and doesn't seem to have lost any speed or physicality.

[Altamonte]

Taremi could easily have been a Salah/Son tier player had he moved to Europe a few years earlier. Sometimes regardless of how hard a player works, only a handful of them have that "special" something. Taremi is one of those players and his special something even surpasses Azmoun's. Regrettably he really took his time heading to Europe, but the silver lining is that he and Abedzadeh opened the floodgates for Iranians going to Portugal

[PSGman#19]

The question should be : is Asia able to produce such superstar players??

I am sorry but we have yet to see an asian reach the level of Mo salah : Dominant in a top club and top league several seasons, winner of UCL.

Son is the nearer but he isn't playing in a top top club with a UCL trophy. No Japanese or korean reached that level. The rest of asia is even further

[Shahin K]

i agree, with ali karimi talent, if he was hard working like Kia, he could have been best player in the world. the issue was ali karimi was lazy

Eden Hazard was the laziest ever but had a career 5 times better than Karimi actually.

[Hosseini]

Al Tamari with that game against Korea

Just revealed himself to be a SUPERSTAR.

[DR Strangemoosh]

Son is considered same tier as Salah

Both world class players