Ashkan Dejagah @ Nottingham Forest FC | 2018

[greenguy4life]

lol we dont have players in PL because of Islamic Republic?

we dont have players in PL because our players are not good enough for PL, or even if they are good enough, they dont have the consistency and physicality that the league requires.

Disagree with you there, speaking of physicality and mentality, Ghoddos and Jahanbakhsh are definitely ready in those aspects.

[sirvan]

lol we dont have players in PL because of Islamic Republic?

we dont have players in PL because our players are not good enough for PL, or even if they are good enough, they dont have the consistency and physicality that the league requires.

Lol @ this guy talking like PL is a league filled with players such as Maradona, Romario, Baggio, Pirlo and Messi! Glorifying the premier league much? PL is a much overrated league and players like Azmoun, Ezatolahi, Jahanbakhsh, Ghoddos, Torabi, Taremi, Mohamadi and Ansarifard can easily compete in the Premier League as there are plenty players with less quality who play in the PL

[AllStarMomo]

Lol @ this guy talking like PL is a league filled with players such as Maradona, Romario, Baggio, Pirlo and Messi! Glorifying the premier league much? PL is a much overrated league and players like Azmoun, Ezatolahi, Jahanbakhsh, Ghoddos, Torabi, Taremi, Mohamadi and Ansarifard can easily compete in the Premier League as there are plenty players with less quality who play in the PL

The question ist, what makes our player special?

What makes Azmoun better than Ahmed Musa? Musa was one of the biggest talents and players in Russia but failed. Azmoun is a big star for us Iranian but he isnt the biggest talent in europe or a hyped player.

What makes Jahanbaksh better than Memphis Depay? Depay was one of the biggest Talents in Eredivisie but failed.

I could do a list of very talented players who were way better than the people u listed and failed in premier league. I just wanted to show that our players arent specail at all.

Why should I buy a player like Ezatolahi or Ghoddos instead of players like Pascal Groß or Riyad Mahrez? There are so many Groß and Mahrez in euorpe... so why shouldnt I buy players like Richarlison or Abdoulaye Doucouré? Our players are good for us and for our standard but when we are honest just open Transfermarkt and look at the players who are playing in France or Portugal. There are so many talents who are way better than our players and then people come and blame IR for not having players in PL...

[PSGman#19]

It is not because one star player from an X league failed in a better league than all players from this X league will fail. Every player is different. I don't know Musa (maybe he faked his age btw) but the guy was good in the last world cup. He failed in a club from a big league. Ok. But, it doesn't mean he will failed in other clubs of big league aswell.

Some years ago, iranian players were failure in the Belgian league. Now one of the best scorer of Belgian league is iranian.

The problem for iranian players is that they have very limited opportunites in Europe. If we had someone like Wenger (who opened the path for millions of french players in England ; some of them were very overrated) or Mourinho (who did the same with portuguese players) we would have world class players out of some of our U17, U20 or IPL players.

[sirvan]

It is not because one star play from an X league failed in better league than all players from this X league will fail. Every player is different. I don't know Musa but the guy was good in the last world cup. He failed in a club from a big league. It doesn't mean he will failed in other clubs of big league aswell.
The problem for iranian players is that they have very limited opportunites in Europe. If we had someone like Wenger (who opened the path for millions of french players in England ; some of them were very overrated) or Mourinho (who did the same with portuguese players) we would have world class players out of some of our U17, U20 or IPL players.

What are you on about? I was talking about our players being good enough to play at premier league level. There are South Korean players doing well in that league, so can Iranian players, it will depend on their ambition, motivation, professional attitude etc but the quality is there. Since football is a business, maybe Premier League clubs see no marketing value in Iranian players but that has nothing to do with them not being good enough to play in the Premier League. As i stated before there are plenty of players with less football talent and skills in that league

[PSGman#19]

What are you on about? I was talking about our players being good enough to play at premier league level. There are South Korean players doing well in that league, so can Iranian players, it will depend on their ambition, motivation, professional attitude etc but the quality is there. Since football is a business, maybe Premier League clubs see no marketing value in Iranian players but that has nothing to do with them not being good enough to play in the Premier League. As i stated before there are plenty of players with less football talent and skills in that league

What is the marketing value of an armenian player (Mkhitarian) or a gabonese one (Aubameyang)?

[sirvan]

What is the marketing value of an armenian player (Mkhitarian) or a gabonese one (Aubameyang)?

Certaintly more than Iran, a country branded as the axis of evil (wrongfully) and described as a rogue nation by the West (again wrongfully), hence Iran being not so popular in Europe atm. African players have marketing value and are popular (marketable) besides Aubameyang's mother is Spanish, that being said African and South American players are much hyped. Armenia is a small Christian country, and it's political situation is not comparable to Iran. That being said Mkhitarian is a quality player

[PSGman#19]

Certaintly more than Iran, a country branded as the axis of evil (wrongfully) and described as a rogue nation by the West (again wrongfully), hence Iran being not so popular in Europe atm. African players have marketing value and are popular (marketable) besides Aubameyang's mother is Spanish, that being said African and South American players are much hyped. Armenia is a small Christian country, and it's political situation is not comparable to Iran. That being said Mkhitarian is a quality player

With all respect for Armenia and even with the political thing around Iran, they aren't at Iran's level in term of football "prestige or reputation". I didn't hear about Armena qualification of WC for e.g or even U20, U17.

[ShervinJ]

Bottom line is once we get more players in top leagues it will create a breakthrough for more players to enter. We saw this in Greece and also Russia. Although these are weak leagues, the establishment in top leagues is not there like we once had in the Bundesliga. Even Egyptians have established themselves in the premier league. The value towards investing in our players is not evident although I believe we have players that could perform in leagues in places like Italy, Germany, Spain, etc.

We cannot sit here and say that it is about marketing value. Our players have a huge social media presence if that really mattered. I do agree though that players from countries such as France, Brazil, Spain, etc. are given more of a look at but people understand the development of footballers in those countries. It is tough to determine the value and competition of players excelling Iran's league as the league is not well known. Scouts want to find out how players perform consistently throughout the season.

[ShervinJ]

Certaintly more than Iran, a country branded as the axis of evil (wrongfully) and described as a rogue nation by the West (again wrongfully), hence Iran being not so popular in Europe atm. African players have marketing value and are popular (marketable) besides Aubameyang's mother is Spanish, that being said African and South American players are much hyped. Armenia is a small Christian country, and it's political situation is not comparable to Iran. That being said Mkhitarian is a quality player

Look at Armenia's national team. Micki is basically the only player in a top league with a defender in Ligue 1 that can't make more than one appearance with his club. We have many more players playing abroad in European teams. If anything our players are being looked at more by clubs. Micki started his career abroad in Ukraine and was excellent. He was never handed anything in his career. Our players are receiving similar chances in Belgium, Russia, Greece, etc.

[PSGman#19]

Bottom line is once we get more players in top leagues it will create a breakthrough for more players to enter. We saw this in Greece and also Russia. Although these are weak leagues, the establishment in top leagues is not there like we once had in the Bundesliga. Even Egyptians have established themselves in the premier league. The value towards investing in our players is not evident although I believe we have players that could perform in leagues in places like Italy, Germany, Spain, etc.
We cannot sit here and say that it is about marketing value. Our players have a huge social media presence if that really mattered. I do agree though that players from countries such as France, Brazil, Spain, etc. are given more of a look at but people understand the development of footballers in those countries. It is tough to determine the value and competition of players excelling Iran's league as the league is not well known. Scouts want to find out how players perform consistently throughout the season.

I don't see a real breakthrough in Russia. Except Mohammadi, all the other iranian transfers are thanks/because of Berdyev.

In Greece, except iranionios, no other team purchase an iranian player on his own. ok maybe Taremi was a real target.

in Holland, JB is successfull since 5 years ago but no breakthrough for iranians there.

Wait & see for Belgium .

Don't want to compare France & Iran as the situation isn't comparable but I remember how Wenger (followed by Houillier) introduced french players (from the best to the most overrated) in Arsenal, Liverpool. then it was impressive how every PL clubs signed tons of random french or ligue 1 players.

[ShervinJ]

I don't see a real breakthrough in Russia. Except Mohammadi, all the other iranian transfers are thanks/because of Berdyev.
In Greece, except iranionios, no other team purchase an iranian player on his own. ok maybe Taremi was a real target.
in Holland, JB is successfull since 5 years ago but no breakthrough for iranians there.
Wait & see for Belgium .
Don't want to compare France & Iran as the situation isn't comparable but I remember how Wenger (followed by Houillier) introduced french players (from the best to the most overrated) in Arsenal, Liverpool. then it was impressive how every PL clubs signed tons of random french or ligue 1 players.

I see what you are saying and agree. What I mean is once we get one player like a JB, Azmoun, or Ghoddos in a top league it could open doors for more players to make the transition. Ansarifard brought Shojaei to Greeve. Shojaei revived Hajsafi's European career and brought him to Panionios. Azmoun brought Ezatolahi to Rostov (even though he probably could have went to a club elsewhere). Azmoun also brought Shekari to Rostov and then Rubin with him.
I just remember when players went to Germany it came in a wave to follow. Also, Nekounam going to Osasuna helped Shojaei come to the club as well gaining experience in La Liga

[ehsan singapore]

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[scuderia]

for everyone information, i just bought ashkan jersey

Nice, do you have a link on where we can buy it! Please

[teammelli91]

Thank goodness Ashkan is playing football in a very physical and competitive invironment. For those who aren’t aware or are misinformed, the Championship is not a joke. This is great preparation for Ashkan to get fit, in form and ready for Russia 2018.